Greetings,

It has been a while hasn't it? I have two rather large files, each compose part of the back matter to the Magus-Foxwood Compendium; meant to be a companion to Angelus Degenero's Demonomicon. I plan to publish one volume for each pantheon, which at the moment gives me 26 volumes including Catholic saints and angles, some five thousand entries in all. At the moment only the Roman Gods are close to completion, though with luck I will finish it all before 2012.

I am posting it here because I am having a a hard time finding proper critics- everyone thinks it's lovely, but that is as far as they take it. Any comment helps, even to point out my atrocious spelling. Have fun with it and tell me if you think it will be useful to you.



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Experiment 19, Jul 11

[Before the experiment]

“Take a look at this, and take some time before projecting tonight to commit it to memory. If you are familiar with projection into a particular symbol, then that would be a good method to use, otherwise it may be sufficient to inscribe the symbol upon the non-dominant hand - in my case it will be the left hand.

It is formed from the phrase "To Communicate Via the Astral Plane" boiled down into a sigil in the AOS method. It was charged in a simple manner, via the bardon method of charging talismans, that is, by breathing the akasic principle into the symbol with the intention to awaken it's symbolic function. You may choose to do the same thing. This added element of synchronicity is a small and easily adapted addition to our experiment that is a practical and immediately applicable method.

[After the experiment]

…I projected at 11:56 or so, taking a different method than I typically do, which I think made the entire thing a lot more vivid. Also, I have been jaunting around the astral most of the day today doing some work with elemental energies… IN any case, I arrived, you were already there. I sat down, and the first thing I did was try to sense your openness to linking throat centers. I extended my center, waited for some sensation of being reached for (kind of feels like someone shaking your hand in a very abstract sort of way), and then pressed on, joining in the way I normally do. Did you perceive any dialogue?
After I felt firmly connected I received a sense of mild surprise … and then 'said' "Do you get it?" And 'heard' you say, "Yeah, I got it." Later on when you signed, I asked you to send again but 'slower' and you seemed to respond. I might have been just replaying the exchange to my specifications, dunno. None the less I felt much more like there was another person present.

[Edited for clarity: Not dialogue per say, but several times ideas occurred to me, which would not normally have. For instance, the third time a signed it occurred to me I might be going too fast, and made the sign slower, taking my time letting it in to your context. This seems to correlate to when you asked me “to send again but 'slower' and {I} seemed to respond.” When you received a sense of mild surprise, was probably when I first extended my throat chakra and made contact. I was shocked to feel a solid where I expected only ether the third eye chakra met with an even more corporeal from.]

At first the sign I saw was geometric, but unstable, and as I said, I asked to see it again, and the second time around I tried to simply see the movements of your 'limbs' as it were, rather than the sign itself, and I want to say I saw initials, like a Monograph? JD was what I ultimately was left with.

[I had to read it a few time before I could grasp the sudden change, from simi-accurate shapes to within a hairs’ breadth. It is indeed a monograph, however not JD.]

I signed, myself, as both drawing/projecting the symbol as well as describing it geometrically and focusing on the feeling of the symbol itself. For some reason I got up from the chair and walked around, this projection was particularly vivid, as I said due to my exercises earlier in the day, to the point of smelling the woody smell of the cabin structure. [In a message on the same topic sent a few minutes after] I stood up, as I said, moved around the cabin, and then at about 12:12 or so by my clock, you were very suddenly not there. So, I returned to my place.

[When I start to lose focus while waiting for your sign I will often walk to one end and back- an attempt to make it more real by interaction. It is possible you where taken by my inclination while linked by chakras. It is once again uncanny how accurate your telling is. At 12:12 on the dot I left the astral. I was trying to maximize effectiveness: when I charted the data, and found after12 minutes accuracy diminished I decided that from the time I projected I would only stay 12 minutes.]

…When I merge throat centers with my companions, we typically have a 'delayed reaction' by a few minutes, at which point we will have a series of synchronous thoughts, have the exact same verbal reaction to something, etc.

I'm curious, did you have a strange sort of 'thick' sensation in your throat area after you left? I ask because from my perception, we didn't take the time to 'unhook' from one another. I withdrew myself [consciously] 'into' my center to let go of you, and pushed out the sense of thickness with a little breath work, which I took to be your extension still plugged in.

That said, I opened my eyes back in my locale at 12:12.”- Vagrant Dreamer

I did not feel a 'thick' sensation in my chakra, but I did withdraw my connection shortly before leaving, but it seems I left before you hade time to do the same.

The complete version of my trip started at 11:50, when I setup to project. This entailed a few changes from the norm because I was extending my chakras I cast a circle. I took your advice drawing the sigil you sent on my left hand for good measure. Then meditating till I felt ready to go I projected in to the sigil. When I entered the Hut I sat down and “loosened up” my chakras by shifting focus on them and drawing them out.

When you arrived I attempted to make contact with the throat chakra then after initial surprise at the physical nature, I did the same with the third eye. After a few moments I became far more interested in the throat chakra and let the third eye connection fade. It did not even dawn on me you would not try both.... I sent my sign three times first two no different that before but then on the third run I thought I should go slower. Time elapsed and I began to receive a jumble of overlying yellow lines. One set came from my right then several more in quick succession progressively left of the first set. Going over it now each set was probably your sign, sent several times, but at the moment I was trying unsuccessfully to read them as a whole. I with drew my connection and left shortly thereafter. It was 12:12.

I am planning to make my own sigil for astral communication; however, if you can see a reason why both of us should use yours I can save myself the trouble. Also, do you wish to try the throat again with or with out the third eye?

[It was decided that only the throat chakra would be used.

Vagrant Dreamer later responded to the bit about the dialogue with the following] …[T]hat is the nature of that kind of communication - it's never as clear cut as "I said this, you said that" on both sides…Also, I believe that it creates more of a connection between unconscious parts of the mind, rather than the waking consciousness which is mostly only for the implementation of data, rather than actually receiving or organizing it… / Ideally the trick is to be able to identify objectively which thoughts originate from one's own masculine principle, and which ones originate from external influences.

“Though without a description of the lines relative to one another, I couldn't say how accurate the composite was, the perception of the color yellow is a curious accuracy - being that we were enjoined, I specifically utilized elemental Air energy (again, had been working with elemental energies all day, so it was on my mind) - because it is the energy of communication between parts, being the element arising out of the interaction between fire and water - which I visualize as yellow when shaping it outside of my own psyche for any reason.”-Vagrant Dreamer

[Looking back at my logs the color yellow has been rather constant, in my descriptions and might have nothing to do with accuracy.]

Experiment 18, Jul 9th

“I got started a little late tonight, projected at 12:10 - it was a short trip, I came back at around 12:25. You signed first, I signed afterwards. Here's what I got. I tried to be as open as possible to letting it come, at first it started to look like the same as one of the symbols before, so I blinked my mind and for a moment only saw the symbol, none of the surrounding imagery.

The symbol attached is an approximation at best, but appeared to be more geometric when I actually saw it. Basically just a square with the corners looped around rather than simple corners.

At one point after I started signing the thought crossed my mind to attempt to establish a link between our throat chakras or third eye chakras to facilitate communication better, but I declined this time as there was no way to effectively ask your permission. I'm asking now - I think it can be done…We might try, on Wednesday, to actively attempt it from both ends. It's pretty simple, a matter of moving your attention to the center in question, and reaching out with it to someone else's center…with the intention to make contact and create a connection. It's like creating an extra limb. /

Other than that, not eventful, although I did have a hard time getting there initially, which is to say I would go 'up' into the locale, and then be pulled back down as though by strong gravity, and then I would go back up, firmly plant my 'feet' on the ground of that locale, and feel compulsively 'squashed' against the ground, again, as if by gravity. I overcame it the third time around by actively banishing the sense of gravity. I find that the more physically I deal with astral terrains of that kind, the more vivid the whole thing is…”- Vagrant Dreamer

I projected at 11:55 and left at 12:09. I saw you move, but no got no sign. The sign you received is not the one I scent.
Your idea for the throat chakra is interesting. I will need to practice before Wednesday, but I would like to try it.

I have been going over my archived messages, and trying to compile data for variance in received vs. sent signs. I will be posting that chart in a few days. So far it appears to be that the accuracy is related to frequency and inversely proportional to length in the astral after a threshold of 12 minutes; Needless to say that my observations must be confirmed from your data. There is no rush, and if I left out needed information I can send it to you.

[Link to .xml file forthcoming]

Also I have found some old posts on relevant topics that leads me to believe a archetypical or empathetic approach to communication would be better but for that we would need to go to a different plain for appropriate correspondence. However all of that is for the next experiment.

“I would have to agree with your data. There may be other variables at work, but based on what we've collected so far it would be difficult to determine that. We might consider keeping track of a wider range of variables. It would make the study more complicated, but also perhaps more complete? Emotional state, diet, daily activity (in terms of exercise, oversleeping, etc.) - from a particularly hermetic point of view, the influences could be quite inclusive. And for that matter, the entire study could become a basis for developing a better approach to astral projection and/or telepathic or empathic communication. Let me know what you think.

[Not in original: A long term goal, but well worth it I will continue gathering data and post what I find. Also, a standardized form of reporting might be in order for the variables will become numerous.]

I do still think that from a tree of life schemata, yesod is the best choice for a connection point for both practical and spiritual reasons,…Yesod is about the level of lucid dreaming, which is not that far of a stretch for most people. However, another option is to simply adopt a different paradigm for the purpose. The issue with that is that there are few readily available paradigms with distinct and objective markers for each 'level' of the astral scape.

Come to think of it though, another option would be to create a mutually acknowledged sigil through which to project from now on. The angle of entry, as it were, would be more exact, and the sigil itself is a more solid representation of our intention to exchange information. Either freeform, a la the A.O.Spare method, or more calibrated in a hermetic fashion, may be sufficient. Another possibility is to project through either the throat or third eye center. Those two specifically for their connotation of communication - the heart center being also a candidate for communication, but more of the empathic variety and not as prone towards specific information.

For that matter, some combination of the above might be in order. Each of the spheres of the tree of life can be said to house corresponding 'locales' to each of the seven chakra centers, so we could conceivably project to the throat center of Yesod, through the sigil made for that purpose.

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It depends on how complicated we want to make it - there may be some merit for each of us to follow as similar a pathway into the astral as possible. The sigil need not be overly complicated, simple enough to reproduce from memory. The spheres and centers can be accessed through correspondence and of course intention.

Let me know what you are willing to try, how simple or complicated you want to get, and we will alter our experiment scheme accordingly. As always, I have ample time available to dedicate to the purpose, so I leave it up to you as to what kind of framework we want to adjust to.”- Vagrant Dreamer

Experiment 15 June 27th

On Wednesday, I went in at 11:50 and stayed until 12:17. My sign was sent in the normal manner. Your sign did come through this time. It was more complex this time, having a hatch towards the arrows at the ends of the three arms, and the arms where at wider angles this time, as if it was inscribed in an equilateral triangle, its color is yellow.


”Last night I projected at 11:55 or so, just before midnight. I saw this time the sign of pisces very distinctly, although it's possible that because of my 'memory' from Monday night I was biased already. I tried not to be. I projected my sign in a neutral 'white light' kind of color, but wasn't giving it much thought, it's just how I write things, as it were. You're description is closer, though, I think this means we're doing better - it has been a slow development, hasn't it? But worth it. I left around 12:20.” – Vagrant Dreamer

I am afraid to say I did not send the sign of Pisces.


Experiment 16, Jul 2rd

I got on with it early last night; started at 11:30 got out at 12:13. The main thing I noted was your sign changed. It looked less like a trisected equilateral triangle and more like a diamond with two triangles on the sides. I do not think you switched signs on me so I will note it as anomalous. I signed three times in the usual way. I went in so early to so I could test whether I perceived a difference in the way I sensed you, there was none.

“True, I didn't change my sign, however, if you could describe the placement of the triangles in relationship to the diamond, or again send an image, it could potentially be, again, close.

Interestingly, I didn't know whether I was slated to sign first, or you were, but I signed first anyway, then waited for yours. I went in at 11:50 or so, came out at about 12:20. I couldn't get anything solid on your sign this time, although I sensed some motion around you or from you. Twice while I was there, you seemed to blink out for a moment, akin to the image on a TV screen flickering up and down.”- Vagrant Dreamer

Blink...yes, in a long session that late at night I sometimes slip in to lucid dreaming, to an observer that could look like a flickering TV.


Experiment 17, Jul 4th

“Last night I sat down to project at around 1am, I got home late. However, I set my clock to 12:00 and projected after taking some time to 'target' our meeting time. I arrived, saw you there already, and sat down. I made my sign three times, and then waited for yours. I saw two different symbols, the third one matched the second one. I have attached what I saw, it is approximate because it was less angular than the last time I reproduced it. After the third time, it rotated in the air about 90 degrees counterclockwise. Didn't know what to make of it, but I thought I’d mention it in case it was somehow relevant. It was an otherwise uneventful trip this time, I came out around 12:15 (according to my altered clock time.)”- Vagrant Dreamer

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I am afraid I can't think of what it means. Allergy induced migraines prevented any prolonged stay so they might have also cased a “send error”. If I may be so bold, I am noticing a trend in your reporting. Each report is of ever more complex signs, and my sign was- if not as much as yours- simple. It may be that expectations, namely an increase in refinement of the sign, are leading to the formation details not really there. The easiest counter for it could be as simple as to go in without actively thinking about the target, thus less influence on it.

As to my escapades, I lasted only 10 minutes this time, from 11:54 to 12:06. I saw very little motion, and needles to say I was unable to receive anything useful. Perhaps next week we will have more luck.

Experiment 14

I projected at 11:50; got back at 12:13. Not sure if you where there, was unfocused… I singed three times, in the normal manner. The only thing I got from your end was the “color yellow.”

"I can't say that there is a relevance to yellow, although given the typical interpretation of that color as an aura signifier, it could be. The sign I use represents a high spiritual ideal.

As for my projection, I started about 11:50, not much to note, I got the same symbol as before though I was trying to be completely receptive and keep myself from thinking of the previous experience. Although this time the angles seemed a little softer, like they should have been curved instead of angles.

I signed first this time, when I arrived. I left around 12:10."-Vagrant dreamer

Once again your description is more accurate.

"Can you describe the method and thought process you use to transmit your symbol? I'm wondering if my methods are simply lacking, or I have a different method of perception. If we adjust those variables with a little theory, we might have more mutual success."

My method has changed little from the method you described to me. The only difference is that I channel energy from my physical body to my astral body when drawing the symbol. Going in “charged” has caused problems whenever one of us has tried it, and pulling energy from the surrounding astral is more difficult for me, so I settled on this. However, several times I did try to present myself as the symbol after the success I had seeing your symbol that way but my first method seems to work better.

It may not be that anything is lacking on your part; as recent events with my totem have shown, I am very good at sending, but very bad at lessoning.