Experiment 11

Short trip...started at 11:50, ended at 12:16. While I was there, I sent my sign three times. Then I waited for your sign, could not make out anything useful.

"I started right at 12, entered and waited for your sign. This time I saw something that reminded me of the icon for the band 'tool'. I waited for more detail, and getting none projected my sign in the same way as before. When nothing else seemed to be happening, I left. It was about 12:20." -Vagrant Dreamer

Experiment 12
(Not an Official Run)

"I projected early 11:30, until 11:45. I projected intentionally with the purpose of arriving when you were there already, trying to take advantage of the fact that time has proven itself to move differently in the astral plane. The only reason for this tonight was that I began meditating at 11pm and and around 11:30 or so was primed to project so I took advantage.

I had a very clear image of you when I arrived, not as colorful as normal, but your face and figure were very clear / I signed first, three times, then waited for yours. I saw you use your index finger to draw a very specific symbol, I got no secondary impressions of function or purpose. So, I simply reproduced the symbol in paint as a gif file and have attached it.” -Vagrant Dreamer
http://www.sacred-magick.org/uploads/post-...-1182138815.gif

...Your picture of my symbol... is becoming ever closer to how I send it.

Experiment #10

At 11:45 I started to project, reaching the Hut soon after. You did not seem to be there so I sat down and waited. When you arrived, I singed once, and then tried to “let you speak.” After a little bit I got an image resembling a “Y” in shape and the impression it was intended to be two-dimensional, possibly yellow in color but on that point I am not positive. After I stopped getting the “Y” shape I made my sign twice more. Getting no response, I left. It was 12:14- a little off in my timing.

“I tried something a little different this time, and it may be what made the different, you're description of a 'y' shape is the most accurate impression you've gotten about the symbol so far, and it is projected as a two dimensional symbol.

I projected at around 12:10 or so, and sat down on the right as usual. This time, however, rather than project my symbol, I tried to sort of inhabit the shape itself, with the hope that just perceiving me would effectively transmit the symbol. Typically, I project a symbol outside of myself, as though holding it up to show it to someone.”- Vagrant Dreamer

That is also how I make my sign, like showing it to someone.

Something a realized was that we both sign immediately after we know the other is in the Hut. It is no drought a reflex from life, but at least with me, signing takes most if not all of my concentration; whatever was sent while I drew my sign would have been lost. Now we have already established that time moves differently in the astral, yet I cannot help but wonder if we are in essence talking over each other. Your more abundant experience might provide insight in to this. If you agree with my analysis, I propose taking turns. One of us is designated to speak first while the other listens. Then the roles are switched.

”I do typically sign and then wait, although sometimes when I sit down I already sense some kind of movement from you, and so I wait in that case. Next time, let's let you sign first, and then myself.”- Vagrant Dreamer

Agreed

”The impression I got while waiting for your sign was a symbol sort of like two vertical parallel lines, with lines at the base of each running opposite one another at 90 degrees into a square at the opposing sides of the base of each line, with the base extending pass the base of the square. (think, two L's with squares set into the angles of each, facing away from one another.) They kind of drew themselves in the air between us, starting from the top, and the square part was like a curl that angled out.” –Vagrant Dreamer

Yes, you are getting close; it is a very literal interpretation probably because my sign was drawn. However, your more figurative interpretation was also close. Do you think how the sign is sent could effect the way it is seen. It seems to be congruent with your recent discovery on embodying the sign.

”When I came back, it was only about 12:20, so it was a short trip, but seemed a lot longer.”-Vagrant Dreamer

Experiment #8

Well, I am out of practice. At about 11:35 I started to project. I arrived at the Hut and sat down. Almost immediately, I felt something, not a sure if it was you trying to contact me but I got nothing definite. A sent my sign three times, then tried to see yours; with little success. All I could see was your form, soft tones of gray mist. I did not even see your face as I normally do.

After some time I sent my sign one more and left with out getting anything. Perhaps you had more success. Look forward to your side of things.

“You know, I have been trying to recall it all day, but I fell asleep at some point while projecting and moved into a dream state. I was awoken suddenly when I tipped over and caught myself, and couldn't remember much of the dream or the projection after that I'm afraid, I remember walking down the path to the cabin, and I think I actually got there, but at that point I can't remember what we did, only that I remember trying to remember, if that makes sense, and then falling over.” Vagrant Dreamer

It was decided to change our schedule,



Experiment #9

I projected at 11:45, entered the Hut you where already there. You seemed more ethereal than normal and I was unable to see your face as I normally do. I signed three times, then tried to “be open to any messages,” something new I dreamed up when reading some of your posts about detrimental influence when being active in ones intent. It did not help much; I was only able to see movement with no discernible imagery.

I left at 12:30.

“I projected at about 11:50, but it was on my mind for about half an hour before that on my way home, which makes me wonder if I didn't project part of the way while on the train.

When I did finally sit down and do it proper, I arrived at the hut and you were already there. Strange that, huh? IN any case, I sat, projected my sign three times as well, and waited for you. I did get the sense of something existing between us, but it was abstract and seemed mutable, like a reddish purple disc of some thickness. It went from being circular to square, and back to circular. I tried to allow any impressions psychically, but after a few moments the shape faded and I simply sat and watched you for a bit after this.
I left about 12:20.”-Vergrent Dreamer

I’m afraid I have no idea where the colors are coming from.

Greetings,

At about 11:50 in stared to project. I made my way to the hut, entered and took my seat. After a bit Vagrant Dreamer showed up, and I started to sign, using the same method as before; I did so twice then spent the rest of the time to sync with him. I may have been successful because I started to feel like I was being solidified. Things began to vibrate or shake. It did not last long but something out of the ordinary did happen.

After the shaking episode, I tried to make out what Vagrant Dreamer was sending me. Got the impression of a two dimensional sigil- drawn as if on a rose cross. But this may have only been me, because when I thought of what it might have been, the sigil changed.

I left the astral at 12:17.



Sorry, no idea what 2 in 3 and 3 in 2 means.



I too am keeping consistent on this end. A thought occurred to me, but it may be best suited for I different experiment all together. I would like to know if you believe that a simple sign- that is seen or used many times- would in theory be easer to communicate than a complex personal sign. I ask because the signs that we have had the most success with have been personal ones.

Given what I hope is my luck with synchronizing with him, I will try to do so at the beginning of each run and determine if I can recreate the results.

After our last experiment, I was shown Vagrant Dreamer’s picture. This success with synchronizing might or might not have anything to do with seeing his picture, so I will try to get mine posted as soon as I can.

Cherry-bye

Good Day,

The fifth experiment was less than eventful. It mostly consisted of me sitting in the Hut looking for Vagrant Dreamer. I got to the hut about 11:45, and got out at 12:03. I did not see him at all but thinking it was me a tried to find him- I had no luck though.




I too am curious if it would make a difference, but I was long gone by the time he even started.



This is intriguing, because I have always sat in the left one; always had the impression that it would be wrong, to use the right.



As I said before he got there after I left; but it is interesting because I did not move around to room this time- I move to keep my mind from wandering away from the hut. The slender filaments coming from my astral body where my attempts to find you- probes of �consciousness� I send out when I'm looking for something.

Once more I find myself bothered by the colorations, they are simply frustrating; logically when I leave I should not be there, and one should not be able to see me, but I am and one does. At least this is more data for the 'un-synching' idea.



Not entirely sure what to make of this, but we are becoming more linked so it is possible this “frame of consciousness” is the cause of it.

Vagrant Dreamer has told me of a change in location, which will bring him geographically much closer than before to me, in addition the new local has pre-established energy wells. So he is expecting to have more energy with which to act in the astral while there. He will be there for the sixth experiment, perhaps longer, but there could be interesting interaction because of it.

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The sixth experiment was more interesting, yet some of the same problems crept up again. I started astral projecting at 11:47. It was a long time before the Hut was visible.

Once in side I assumed my position in the left chair and waited for Vagrant Dreamer. I am unsure if he was there when I arrived or if he came in after but unlike the normal impression I get when he enters the room- a subtle change in the topography of the Hut. There was a change in density, I will refer back to “the rock in the glass of water analogy,” this is the third time this has happened, and I am unsure of how to annalize it, much less how to explain it.

As bothering as that may be, it represents a practical obstacle, at least for me. The issue it poses is to my ability to align myself

I tried three methods to communicate my sign, each one was tried twice. The first was the using ambient energy to manifest the sign and push it to Vagrant Dreamers “perception.” The next was to draw the sign in the air and to push it in to his context. Third, was to task energy with the shape of the sign and to go to him, then I released it. The last one I found on one of his topics.

I had the sense that the last two where only “bouncing off” of him and not getting through. The first method had no noticeable effect, if it had any at all.

I spent the rest of the time trying to see if I could sense anything that Vagrant Dreamer was sending me, but I was unable to. The spectacular results of the gateway sigil have yet to be repeated, I am of the opinion that I am simply not well enough attuned to decipher anything subtler than physical changes in the astral. I will naturally try to rectify this, but it may be advisable- if after some time has elapsed without better results- to go about this in a way. As to what that way could be, or the time at which that would become appropriate to conceder, I will be happy to hear anything that my be of use.



I was as you say “gathering and shaping energy,” I used your method of drawing in the air and releasing the symbol- hopping to send it on its way to you- and trying not to interfere. This was one of three different methods I tried. (My last PM contained the full description) As to what method I normally use to collect energy I expecting energy to gather in some part ether internal (body) or external (floating ball of energy,) when I started out I would channel energy through my physical body in to my astral body. The latter is now seldom used.



I have looked at it, and although your appearance was quite different than I imagined, there was- when I first saw your picture- a sensation that “yes this is him.” There was no question about it. I have no such account but I will try to get one next week and post my own picture.