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Greetings,
The results of the forth experiments are in.

I went in at 11:30 EST, but took my time getting to the Hut. I was following the advice Vagrant Dreamer gave in an earlier PM and tried to take in the whole experience to the exclusion of all else. I started small, with the moss-covered rock at the entrance to the path to the hut, then on the path and lastly on the interior of the Hut.

When I finally entered the Hut, Vagrant Dreamer was already there. I tried to draw the sign in the air and "pushing" it into his �context�; this was done three times before I saw him move his arms. Normally I simply try to manifest a sign so it is like the room, or more recently pull energy into the shape of the sign and releasing it toward him.

Thinking that Vagrant Dreamer is closer to seeing my symbol than I to his, I sat down and tried to think of what the movement looked like; this was less than fruitful. So I went at it from a different angle. I tried to sense what he was sending me, if there was anything attached to the energy, and so on. I had mixed results; mostly I just imaged things, and was able to dismiss them quickly. Yet, after some time I had a clear vision of pyramid with a single large trapezoidal indention per side, covering a large portion of each side.

One other event that stood out of me was the disappearance of the hut, and indeed the whole of the astral; all that remained was Vagrant Dreamer.

The rest of the time, I tried to sense the energy he was sending me. I was tempted to try as Vagrant Dreamer put it: �Pull myself in line� with him. But, I am still unable to feel his presence; I saw him and feel that there is a structure in the Hut that is different from the hut, but I get no particulars. An adequate analogy would be a rock in a glass of water.

I left at 12:07 EST.

Vagrant Dreamer responded to my PM containing the above information, by saying that he had missed my message to meet last Thursday, but was surprised that several of my experiences matched what he was doing. At around 11:20 he went to the same area we have been meeting- to practice. He did not see me but his �attention was continuously drawn to the opposite end of the hut.�

We are getting better results, and quicker, than I thought possible. Normally I only see Vagrant Dreamer draw the sign. However, I was able to get the general shape of the out it this time; I am curious to know if he put more energy in to it, or if there was something else that was different about the way he created the sigil. If not then I would think a probable reason I saw it would be because f its effect on the environment. Alternatively, I was paying closer attention to what you where doing this time- and not sending you my sign.




After the astral disappeared, I was left in a void much like the one that I enter to first enter the astral- Vagrant Dreamer was there to start with but soon I could not find him. So- figuring I left with out intending to- I went back to the hut. Once there his after image theory is likely what happened. I tried to pull myself in line with him, but though I could see him and feel that there was a structure in the Hut that is different from the hut; I got no particulars. I refer to my earlier analogy of a rock in a glass of water.



I am sill more than a little concerned and rather baffled about the timing. Yet progress is being made, so I should worry less abut the timing in a place with no time.

More to come.
Cheery-Bye