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First Goetic Spirit to Evoke
I've waited a long time to perform my first Goetic operation
anyone,with actual experience with the Goetia, have any suggestions about
what Spirit to evoke for a first time? |
1. I love your sig. 2. Lady Hydralisk may be able to give you more insite as she has worked with MANY goetics 3. Reading the experiences of many other mages I would have to suggest Marbas. |
Why don't you ask your intuitive self which one to evoke... it just
seems wrong to ask others which one to evoke... that's like a poll on
which magickal path you should take or something. But for what it's worth
I hear good things about Orobas... from damn near everyone who's evoked
him. |
Andras.................:-) :-D :-D |
It depends. Which of them in their description is able to give you
something that you want in your life? Really, there is no cut and dry
answer for the rest of us to give you. Think about what attracted you to
the Goetia, what you want, and which spirit fits the bill best for you
right now. Things WILL happen following your evocation, they just might
not happen in the way you are expecting. The Goetics WILL work for you,
provided you can control them. |
Buer is a good choice as a first time evokation. He's one of
the few that I still work with on occassion. |
If you can figure out why in all honesty to yourself, you want to
evoke, the chosen spirit will become
apparent. |
I dont think he was looking for a specific answer.....IMHO I think
what he was trying to ask was "Which goetics wont slay me for disturbing
them......." |
Well theres two people in my town that I know that have even worked
with goetic entities. They both started out by evoking dantalion(possibly
because they are musicians?). And they say he is a kind gentle spirit. But
I wouldnt know , never evoked the guy. |
You have to follow your intuition. No one here can tel you the right
demon for YOU! That said I have never heard anything negative about orobas
either. As long as you've never hurt a horse you should be
ok. |
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This certainly is REALLY close to the top of my list (or rather will be). I could give a rat's ass as to which one is the easiest, or which one could likely help me with my life the most. While help in my life (making myself a better person, or helping me achive a greater work) may be a better choice, it certainly won't help all the much if I'm dead. I'd just assume stick with one that wont get all pissed off cuz I said something wrong, or in nervousness did something in reverse. While I'd do my damnedest to "Do it RIGHT the first time" I know that I often stumble when I'm put on the spot, and in progressing from reading all I can to actually performing a ritual like this I'd be bound to screw something up...it's just my nature. Even if the spirit in question wont/can't help me all that much when it's all said & done I'll be able to say to myself "At least I'm not dead!". I mean, I'd hate to summon one up just to pass out cuz the ritual actually worked just to get eaten or something ;) Once getting the first one outta the way I'd be more inclined to take it a few steps further, and start doing things with more confidence & less error...it's just that first one I'd fear the most. Q |
Alright. I'll level with you. An earlier poster recommended Andras. I
second this. Also, if you want his respect, instead of giving the
Welcoming Unto the Spirit, just say,"Yo, dawg, you a bitch" in as thick
and annoying an ebonics accent as you can. When you give him license to
depart, it must be carefully adapted. You must say,"Get out my face,
biznatch! Yo, I dare you to come messin' wit me,
foo!" |
I thought you stopped being a "comedian"
:P |
Dude... that was WACK |
I wasn't looking to be spoonfed just advice from those with
experiences.I appreciate the suggestions though. Also I'm not sure if my
first evocation should be for some material reason,rather to interact and
learn with a new type of being. |
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I don't think he was entirely joking. |
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if you want to work with a new type of being, why not try an angel? |
Very funny Hitman and Morphine.:lol: Even the Satanic website "The
Joy of Satan" warns against Andras. I recall Tzimtzum evoking him I think
to learn about rage. |
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The same
way you would any spirit. Angels have sigils, just look them up. Or if all
you have is a name there are various ways to create a sigil that will
work. An angel might be a good choice but they are not all cute and
fluffy. If this is your very first time might I suggest something small
like an elemental? |
angel can tell you "your needs aren't pure" or "I can't do that, this
is not my boundary" or even "I have to ask the archangel XYZ before I can do it" demon ask you "what do you want? what you gonna give me back? deal!" I don't think that summoning entity without any good reason is smart. when need a powerful spell, you will know what kind of spirit you will need. |
May I sugesst attainint communication with your Holy Guardian Angel,
through Abramelin, Liber Sameck or even Bardon´s method, and asking
him? Look through the "Practice of Magickal Evocation" book, by Franz Bardon, or "Summoning Spirits", by Konstantinos. There are nice (beware, nice is NOT fluffy!) Spirits you can contact. |
I've worked with angels and elementals but have waited to expand into
the "demonic" which I do find far more
fascinating. |
Demons...beware
Beware my friend when conjuring demons and/or fallen angels(
ESPECIALLY BELIAL & AGOGATTON) some come in forms that might scare u
crazy.But if ur looking for good demons... my suggestons are
BEAL,OSE,SEERE,MARBAS,and VINE. |
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