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02-20-2005, 07:49 PM |
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Permanent absence of magickal
link
Well, guys, my problem is twofold.
1) In
the last year I have repeatedly tried to evoke/contact,
for example, goetic entities. Hearing your advice and
experiences, these guys should heve either f*cked me up
or completing the tasks I have set down for them.
Nothing of both occured. I have given them LOTS of
energy, mainly due to the attention I gave and secondly
due to the energy I have given them on purpose, to
complete the tasks, and I didn't even have the
impression that they recieved it. Even now, looking
back, I don't think that they got the energy, while it
is said here that it even feels good to them when we
mention their names in posts. And I repeat, they had the
means to f*ck me up due to the minimum protection I
had. Perfect absence of any magickal link at
all.
2) When I perform low magick, some
results occur. But it clearly seems like the "pipeline"
from me (as the energy source) and the entities or
functions who should recieve it to achieve something
SERIOUSLY leeks. My estimation is that 90% of the energy
gets lost! For example, I get NO results from, say,
candle magick, visualisation etc, and I get SOME results
when I use sperm, which is supposed to be my nuclear
power plant and not the standard source of SOME energy!
It leaks, leaks, leaks. WHY???
As many of you
know, I'm not a complete newbie in magick. But something
seems to be missing from my practice which makes the
energy NOT go straight to the target. Any
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02-20-2005, 09:28 PM |
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Parasites?
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02-20-2005, 09:42 PM |
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I dont think there's any such thing as magickal
link. Or at least losing it permanently. For some people
it takes a long time before they can perform evocations
or even make contacts with entities successfully.
Maybe you've hit a magickian's block. Maybe you are
not ready yet. You yourself can know the answers to
these. My suggestion is that, dont push too hard.
Take your time. Practice basic rituals regularly. Work
on your chakras. Work on your physical body as well.
And as for the low magick and overall, strengthen
your paradigm. Enflame yourself. Dont despair and dont
accept defeat. You should know that you can perform
magick successfully. It's within you, in your
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02-20-2005, 10:05 PM |
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I suggest you drop the Solomonic magick and begin
something like what is within Bardon's Initiation into
the Hermetics.
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02-21-2005, 10:47 PM |
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Thank you for the advice people. But
that's exactly the problem!
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Practice
basic rituals regularly.
| I do so, and
with VERY satisfactory success!
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You
should know that you can perform magick
successfully | I
do, and I can perform magick successfully, whenever I
want to. The problem is not absence of success, the
problem is that the results EXIST but are VERY POOR
compared toi the amount of energy put in.
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My
estimation is that 90% of the energy gets lost!
| The other 10% does
its job, but why should I compromise with something so
weak???
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I
get SOME results when I use sperm, which is
supposed to be my nuclear power plant and not the
standard source of SOME energy! It leaks, leaks,
leaks. WHY??? | |
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02-21-2005, 11:24 PM |
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Im going to go out on a limb and assume the problem
with making contact with entities has something to do
with your vibrations. Practise skyring and when yu do
notice the trance like state yu achieve after a few
mintues. Your mind goes a bit blank and you begin to
slip off into another reality. This is the point yu want
to achieve while staring at the spirits sigil. Everytime
yu chant its name FEEL your bodies vibrations changing
to meet that of the entity your summoning. Yu mentioned
sperm and if yu feel comftorable yu can masturbate on
the spirits sigil to create a link (though it can be
dangerous). Also try working on feeling the results come
to pass when doing the ritual. When doing candle magick
feel and visualize your results manifesting from the
mental to the astral and all the way to the physical. I
can go more in depth if yu would like.
Hope this
helps, Ashnook
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02-22-2005, 12:07 AM |
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Hmmm... Yes, the "right state" is something Ι often
overlook a bit... Looking at sigils while being in
everyday consciousness doesn't bring much. Slowing
down on the mind states may be what I'm lacking in...
I'll try.
Thank you again!
For those who
are familiar, what is better for these things? Alpha or
Theta mind state??? |
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02-22-2005, 12:39 AM |
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I'm confused. When you try to evoke eg a Goetia
spirit, do you feel/hear/see it at all?
The first
step of an evocation is to communicate with the spirit,
the second step to get the physical result.
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02-22-2005, 01:25 AM |
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I disagree a bit grab the first step is to connect
with it followed by your other two steps
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fit the Magickal facts.
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02-22-2005, 03:38 AM |
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Sure Ashnook, you are right. I just have big
chunks. I was just curious if he actually chatted, or if
he didn't even get online.
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02-22-2005, 10:11 AM |
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Quote:
Originally Posted by
Ashnook
Im going to go out
on a limb and assume the problem with making
contact with entities has something to do with
your vibrations. Practise skyring and when yu do
notice the trance like state yu achieve after a
few mintues. Your mind goes a bit blank and you
begin to slip off into another reality. This is
the point yu want to achieve while staring at the
spirits sigil. Everytime yu chant its name FEEL
your bodies vibrations changing to meet that of
the entity your summoning. Yu mentioned sperm and
if yu feel comftorable yu can masturbate on the
spirits sigil to create a link (though it can be
dangerous). Also try working on feeling the
results come to pass when doing the ritual. When
doing candle magick feel and visualize your
results manifesting from the mental to the astral
and all the way to the physical. I can go more in
depth if yu would like.
Hope this
helps, Ashnook | Do
elaborate and go in depth on this please Ashnook. To
add to that, here's some more questions for your quoted
post: - why is it dangerous to create a link through
semen on the sigil? - what do you mean by vibration
in above context? - tips on "tuning" into the
vibration of the entity, maybe? - how do you know if
the link established? - what to notice pls? 
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02-22-2005, 10:32 AM |
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Kinjo
Do elaborate and
go in depth on this please Ashnook. To add to
that, here's some more questions for your quoted
post: - why is it dangerous to create a link
through semen on the sigil? - what do you mean
by vibration in above context? - tips on
"tuning" into the vibration of the entity,
maybe? - how do you know if the link
established? - what to notice pls?  | 1.
Becuase in this method yu are DIRECTLY connected to the
entity and it WILL be able to influence yu and speak to
yu outside of evokation. 2. Vibrations refer to
the energy around yu. Kind of like when some people say
they get wierd "vibes" around graveyards etc etc. Not
the energy in your room per sa and not your personal
aura...the energy that changes with your mood and
such. 3. When staring at the sigil everytime yu
chant its name feel a part of that energy changing to
that of the entities. Your probably wondering how to
know what the energy of the entity is...this is
unimportant right now just KNOW that it is changing and
try to feel it. If it helps imagine your energy as a
grid and with chant a brick is removed and replaced with
that of the entities. This is where the old saying goes
"yu become what you evoke". While yu will not directly
change yu will overtime develop traits of the critter if
your not careful. 4. Yu will feel a sort of tug
almost on your crown chakra or third eye chakra and yu
will start to regain semi conciousness and begin to
awake from gnosis. Yu will FEEL connected to the entity.
This is when yu say the conjuration.
__________________
- Instead of attempting to FIT THE FACTS into your
perception of Magick why don't you EXPAND YOUR PERCEPTION to
fit the Magickal facts.
- The only limits to our Magick are
our own...
- In memory of Bob Hendricks...may your
spirit live free forever my
friend.
for all of your necronomicon needs: http://www.geocities.com/ashnook111(still
under
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