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Class Course: Necromancy
Ok, I guess
I'm here again, hopefully this thread wont be deleted by another hacker
attack, but I'll be saving all the lessons this time.
Ok, now these are the classes people that will be going through, remember register as soon as possible to get the classes that you want. Class Course: - What A Necromancer is? - Meeting Your Ancestral Spirits - Controlling Spirit Influences - Obtaining a Divinatory Spirit - Working With Divinatory Spirit - Summoning Spirits of the Dead - Advanced Summonings - Obtaining A Working Spirit - Working with an Operative Spirit - Releasing the Dead - Writing the Silent Dead and other ways of working with the Dead - Moving your Spirit - Potions, Incenses, and Formulas For Necromancy Ritual Use - Charms and talismans - Sciomancy - Gods, Spirits, and Entities that calls back the Dead (Use with Caution) - Last Lesson: Resurrection Ideas and Methods We will also talk about holding Séances and Tarot Divination - Chance Lesson- Ancient Techniques of sealing Spirits Now, I'll be going over other things like exercises, and such. Through these class lessons I'll be using my personal experience and old or out of print books to teach these courses. I'll be teaching these courses on 7/24/04. Hopefully I'll see you guys in the classroom... Good Luck, registering... |
This Dude Is Cool! |
WHy not. |
How does one register and where are the
classes? |
The classes are here, and you've already
registered Lord Cthulhu. Since you've joined this occult forum you are
able to discuss anything that you want in my new thread... :mrgreen:
Isn't that exciting, also you'll be able to listen to me babble about absolutely nothing through this long ass thread... :-P (Of course I'm joking, I'll be showing pictures and such in my thread of necromancy and I'll be explaining techniques and procedures.) |
so you're a Necromancer?(sorry, I'm just having visions of my days of
Diablo and other RPGs, no offense :)). How long has you been practicing,
if you don't mind me asking? Also, you'll be showing pics of your
workings? |
My grandfather taught me some stuff and the rest I learned from
books and people. I've been a necromancer for a while now. I'll be showing
pictures from books, temples, altars, and such when I get into a section
where I'll show you examples. I couldn’t find my web cam so, I can't
really show you my altar where I worship my ancestral spirits.
I practice the Witch of Endors way of necromancy, but I do use other ways and methods. |
It is great to have a contributor like you
Kirk. |
Thank you for your kind words. :cry: |
remember, hes cool, lol |
Kirk,
maybe I am jumping the gun but I had some questions from the first time
you attempted this class. What are the risks to the spirits you work with? I am concerned that working with these spirits may distract and bind them to this plane and keep them from moving on. Will we be doing unknown damage to dear old granddad? Also I was curious how set in stone this alter was. Obviously you need something for the spirit to latch onto but does it have to be an alter? Could you use an object such as a urn, similer to the brass container in the Goeita? |
Thx again Kirk, you have resurrected the Necromancy Class! Thank you
soo much, I have missed it! |
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Are there any risks to the spirits that your work with? (Yes and no, when dealing with necromantic practices, you tend to attract a lot of spirits/ghosts/ect. towards you, some spirits that you'll be facing mostly during practices will be trickster spirits. But, they can be banished easily with several methods like powders, incense, chants, and such. I did have a person ask me if he could be able to use banishing techniques near your ancestral shrine to get rid of the trickster spirits because you'll be mostly facing them there. I have not used banishing near my ancestral shrine due to fear of losing or hurting my ancestral spirits, so I cannot comment on this, but I due suggest that you don't do this...) While calling your ancestral spirits to your shrine, does this bind them to the material plane and what about this Altar? (No, your ancestral spirits are able to leave the shrine and travel the spirit realm and such. This is how they'll give you information on what's happening, but they usually don't discuss things like this with you all the time. Your shrine is not just a connection spot, it’s is their resting place, shelter, and the place where they eat. I hope that clears things up.) |
Ok everyone, this is how it
goes: When I say "Class has Started" I require everyone to stop posting on this thread until I say "Class has Ended." This is how I can organize my stuff... I want to thank everyone who's been making my thread special by viewing and posting on it and I ask everyone to enjoy then selves on it by asking me questions or whatever. Just remember my rules... :) |
Class Session: History of the Witch of
Endor
Class Session:
History of the Witch Of Endor Necromancy, according to a dictionary definition, relates not the "pretended art of divination through communication with the dead." It is often confused in the public mind with Nigermancy, the art of divination through the ancient Egyptian method of scrying in black-colored water or a black bowl with water in it. Both are considered to be forms of divination, thus the suffix "mancy." Necro is the Latin word for "dead," while Niger means, "black." I feel that when Negromancy or Nigermancy is used it means the blackest art in necromancy or the negative side of it. Necromancy is most common to people as a form of black magick but it really isn't. It's just like magick, it is neutral in nature, but people have placed it in a category. But, the category of black magick in necromancy is truly black magick. Sometimes if people might put magick in category under black magick that part of nature is truly black and you will not find light. If you've seen or read about infernal necromancy or other types necromancy of the darker side you would see that you are defying a higher power or calling a part of magick that shouldn't be called upon. Well, since we got that over with, we will continue the lesson. The best know incident of necromancy in the Christian world is the case of the Witch of Endor, which is sited in the Christian bible. This woman was often referred as a witch, but certainly the woman was not a witch. As the entire incident of King Saul working with her deals in the practice of necromancy and witches are not necromancers to say at the least. Witches, ceremonialist, shamans, and other practices can also practice necromancy if they wish; it's not just only for necromancers. The incident is found at I Samuel 28: 7-25 in the King James translation of the Bible. We will look at this example in some detail and see just what it was that the Women of Endor did for Saul. In verse 7, King Saul decides to consult a woman who had a familiar spirit, in other words, a necromancer. Saul asked his servants to seek out a woman who had a familiar spirit, so that he could visit her and consult with her. We must make note at this point that King Saul’s decision to visit a woman who had a familiar spirit was directly in opposition to the bible based on the legal code of ancient Israel, which, according to Leviticus 20:27, states that any man or women who had a familiar spirit should be put to death by stoning. In I Samuel 28:8, King Saul disguised himself and went to visit the women at night. This brings up curious points students. NECROMANCERS CANNOT MAKE HOUSE CALLS, EVEN TO THE PALACES OF KINGS. Their spirits are fixed in a particular physical location, and moving a spirit from one location to another is always, at best, a difficult and complex task, but I'll be going over how to perform such tasks later on. The practice of Necromancy requires that practitioners have a stable, fixed to a physical location. In this time and age, this usually means you have a house from which you and your spirit operate. It can take six months to process of moving the spirits from one place to another. King Saul knew that he would have to visit the necromancer. Even though he was a King of his nation, he prepared to humble himself to visit the women who had a familiar spirit to gain information from her. The king put on a disguise and went by night, so that no one except those in his party would know that he was consulting a necromancer. Verse 9 indicates that King Saul had proclaimed a law, following the Biblical law of Leviticus 20:27, which forbad the practice of Necromancy. We should notice that the woman with the familiar spirit was not anxious to break the law. The practice of various, forms of divination and magick are frequently forbidden by various governments which came into power from time to time. These arts are always forbidden by any religion, which does not monopolize them. The practice of the arts cannot really be forbidden; usually real practitioners are rarely discovered. In those times when the practices of divination and magick is most firmly prohibited, the clients of those who secretly practiced these arts usually drawn from higher ranking members of the same government that has forbidden them. It is never necessary for necromancers, or for any other magicians, to work with particular client, or to work any client at all. Just as the Woman of Endor tried to dissuade King Saul, necromancers or magicians can and should turn away any potential client who may come to them to avoid breaking either the civil or the criminal law of their nation. The practitioners need never place themselves in jeopardy by accepting work from any client, who will probley turn against them in the long run. Thus, the Woman of Endor would have been better off if she would have refused her services to King Saul. The practice of Necromancy is usually a very private affair. Necromancers, like any other real practitioners of magick do not require any clients. Clients are always, at best, a luxury for them. So, if anybody comes up to you and asks you to summon up a dead relative or something it's best to look away, but it's your choice or not if you want to help that person out or not like the Woman of Endor. Note that the penalty for practicing necromancy in the time of King Saul was death, as called for in Leviticus 20:27. The Woman of Endor said, "Why then are you laying a snare for my life to cause me to die”? In the Hebrew text King Saul instructed his servants find a women who had an Oboth. An Oboth. Necromancy is practiced with instruments like any other practice; the equipment of a Necromancer is called an Oboth. Later on we shall examine these instrument that the Woman of Endor used and how she used it. An Oboth is a familiar spirit; an Oboth has the ability to contact the dead. If you read verse 13, you will see that it was the woman who, at first, could see the effects of her summoning. In verse 14, however, King Saul sees the spirit of Samuel himself. In his own way, King Saul became an active participant in the act of divination. I'm now finished in the history of the Witch of Endor. Class Session Ends: The History of the Witch of Endor Book Used: The Catholic Bible and Communing with the Spirits |
I would like to add that the infernal necromancy that kirk talked
about wasnt really around until Agrippa wrote it in his books for
plablisity. The operations (which were extremley gorey and horrific) were
made popular by Dee and Kelley. Then other writers in the middle ages ran
with that theme. |
Excellent background Ashnook, but I
would like to note that there were other ways of infernal necromancy.
Roger Bacon a practitioner of necromancy and mysticism died during the age
of faith by the church. He was also practitioner the dark arts of
necromancy. In a book that he wrote, he went through steps of the procedures of infernal necromancy and the ritual process of it. During the process of the work he wrote down notes and such on what he was doing and the conclusion of the ritual, which was quit successful. |
Thx kirk88, I remember this lesson from
before. |
thanks kirk, u the man |
Thank
you Benhunt, Kollision I'm happy that you remember this lesson; Ashnook
was so kind to e-mail me some of the posts that I did in the original
class lessons. |
So if necromancy being the calling forth and using of the dead, could
it be said that many different forms of magickal evocation/summoning have
necromantic elements? Or is it that the necromancer calls forth his
'personal' spirits to work w/ which separates nec. from other magick
practices? Is necromancy a common practice in
Voodoo? |
1.) Yes, yes, and yes, you are able to use evocation with spirits
of the dead, there is a spirit in Goetia that is able to use necromantic
ability and a spirit in necrocomicon, as well as in some other grimoires.
But, I would not suggest you use them in communicating with the dead as
they could manipulate the dead. 2.) Personal spirit/Oboth, so yes, we call forth this entity to help us summon forth a spirit of the departed. 3.) Necromancy is common with the Vodou religion, as they use their ancestral spirits in some of their workings. |
Also, I want to let everyone know that the next class
session will be Wednesday. |
edited for stupidity :oops: |
The first class session is "The History of the Witch of Endor" it's
at the beginning of the thread. |
Ok, "class has began," you know the deal... ;-)
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Class Lesson: What A Necromancer Is
We will
be discussing the aspects of a necromancer now, but I want people to know
that during the ancestral part of the lesson you cannot turn back. You
will end up paying homage to your ancestral spirits and if you stop paying
homage it could turn out for the worst in your part. So if anyone of you
can't pay homage to your ancestral on a regular basis then you should stop
now! In the world of the occult we will know that there are other people working with the spirit world not just necromancers. Mediums are one thing were going to be discussing, mediums are people that all of us basically know about, they are the ones that are being used by a spirit to communicate with other people. It is a practice, which should not be attempted from curiosity alone. In some cases passing a spirit as a medium can be physically as well as psychically damaging to the person attempting to do so. True, mediums are usually very passive people. They are usually able to step outside of themselves easily. These are the kind of people who are difficult to train as necromancers. Necromancers are usually aggressive by nature, and are often very domineering people. Necromancers must always avoid allowing themselves to be used in any way by a spirit, which is exactly what a trance medium does. A necromancer is a human being who is essentially going into business with a spirit, or a number of spirits like a ceremonial magician does. The spirits and the necromancer both obtain benefits from the business partnership that they enter. They are each working to assist the other in a particular way, and they must always develop between themselves the friendship and trust which such a close business relationship requires. Now, before we attempt any work with spirits of the dead, whether as a member of a magical-religious practice or as a private necromancer, you must first review your own natural talents and inclinations. If you have talents in seeing the dead or even communicating with them then that is great, if you don't then it is going to be hard, but I'll make sure that through these practices that you will start seeing them in no time. Self-examination and an objective knowledge of the self are primary characteristics of any form of magical training. Now, some people will say if you don't possess the ability to see the dead then you are wasting your time, this is simply not true the only requirements in the practice of necromancy is your ability of divination. Now I’m going to list some of the characteristics of those who successfully work with the dead are listed below. Review these characteristics and compare them to your knowledge of your self. - Do you find a Quija board easy to use? - Do you obtain accurate information from it? - Have you had spirits of the dead speak to you? - Have you seen spirits of the dead? - Do you accept death as apart of life? - Do you feel comfortable around dead bodies? - Do you have a macabre sense of humor? - Are you undisturbed when you see someone who has a serious injury or a terminal disease? - Are you indifferent to minor cuts and scrapes on your own body? If any of you have these characteristics, then you are a natural necromancer. But, I want all of you to know that necromancy is a practice that anyone can learn, like witchcraft isn't practiced by only natural witches. You just need self-control and self-discipline for success in any field. Class Session, "What is a Necromancer" has ended. |
i have a question, perhaps this is the wrong time to ask it but here
i go if it is i appologize. You mention the ouija board and its use as a
skill, i have a wierd thing where the planchetes fly off the board if i
come near. my friends used them all the time if i tried it it wouldnt work
well or at all and if i walked by the room they were in the planchette
would fly off the end. Is this something bad, strange or somewhat
normal. |
So basically, a Necromancer does not believe in reincarnation.
Otherwise, how can I call upon the spirit of the dead? Does it dissociate
itself from the current physical body? And oh, could someone make this a sticky topic pls? |
Darkfay, yes Necromancers (for the most part) believe in
reincarnation. You dont get immediently reincarnated. The lessons will
talk a little bit more about reincarnation
later. |
Yes, the reincarnation process could possibly take 70-300 years for
the spirit to travel through the appropriate planes and realms before it's
rejuvinated enough to come back down to the physical plane and take on a
new shell. Can't remember where I read that, but it does make sense,
especially if you've AP'd before. |
Yes, I'll go over reincarnations and the dangers of
necromancy to the spirit, but that'll be later on. Also thank you Ashnook, for helping out... |
Hey
everyone, I'll be having my next class lesson this Wednesday. Thank
you guys for participating and your posts are greatly appreciated.
:D |
I look forward to it as I am throughly enjoying this class, but I do
have a question. As things are introduced in this class and you begin to
reveal your rituals and practises, would you consider it safe to start
doing them right away or wait until you finish teaching the class in its
entirty? Keep up the excellent work. |
That's a good question and thank you for that nice
comment; I'm mostly teaching the lesson step by step. I'll be teaching on
how to make a shrine for your ancestors and I'll be going over step by
step on how to accomplish the ritual and the out come you should get. But
when I go over a ritual or necromancy working, I'll be posting the sites
that you should go to for the items that I listed. But, there will be some
items that I'll mention that will be very difficult to get your hands
on. If anything you should follow everything step by step and don't just go to the spells and rituals. |
Lycus, I would say that your READ and I emphasize read before performing anything. Read over a couple of times, dont do things right away. It would be better to familiarize yourself with his teachings as well as with other peoples teachings before even starting to commit to application. Kirk, Are you the only Necro on this board? Thanks for the lessons again! |
I really don't know if I'm the only necro on this board,
but I know that Dakini knew several stuff in necromancy, but I don't think
that she's here anymore. |
Thank You kirk88 for taking the time to share your knowledge here.
Thanks! The Black Magickian, I think Pope Honerius (Liber Juratus) may
have given necro negative connotations? |
Hes not a black magician...like he said before, thats
Nigermancy. |
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