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Old 07-31-2004, 02:07 AM   #1
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Default meditation with an archangel

i got a couple of questions on this topic

1) how is this any different (beneficial) then normal meditation

2) which archangel would be the best to meditate with
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Old 07-31-2004, 04:47 AM   #2
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Of the primary 4, Gabriel is the most approachable and the one who's most active in human contact.
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Old 07-31-2004, 05:13 AM   #3
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I think you can only find out the benefits from your own experience as each person has a different relationship with the Archangels. Having said that, there are similarities too.

I also find that Gabriel is the more amenable in some ways, the most homely if you like. I find Michael passionate and energetic, Raphael penetrating and Auriel is the least forthcoming, however, when you do get closeness with Auriel, it can be very intense.

But like I have said, your experiences may vary. It depends on how you are feeling at the time and your own personality what will resonate with you.

Over time the relationships vary, my experience of Michael is very different now compared to a few weeks ago. It will depend on what you need too.

If you need support you may get it from one, but if you need to be challenged on something, another Archangel may do that.

Experiences with Archangels change, your relationship with each one changes and you get different kinds of help from each one.

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Old 07-31-2004, 05:16 AM   #4
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because in the cm library, there is a meditation with gabriel but it requires a robe, and all this stuff that i dont have. :-/ do u recommond that i get those??? or are they just suggestions?
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Old 07-31-2004, 05:36 AM   #5
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Merlin. I have never used tools or special clothing of any kind, last night was warm and I did ritual in well... not very much covering at all.

If it helps you to focus or gets you into the right frame of mind, use robes or preferred clothes or lighting or even music just before, but the experience is about you connecting whatever you are wearing or wherever you are, which could be at home, in a hotel, staying with friends.


The physical things are only important if they are either hindering you or if you find them helpful.


There will come a time when you can connect in a busy street if you really need to...

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Old 07-31-2004, 06:44 AM   #6
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thank you.
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Old 07-31-2004, 11:45 PM   #7
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I think you can only find out the benefits from your own experience as each person has a different relationship with the Archangels. Having said that, there are similarities too.

I also find that Gabriel is the more amenable in some ways, the most homely if you like. I find Michael passionate and energetic, Raphael penetrating and Auriel is the least forthcoming, however, when you do get closeness with Auriel, it can be very intense.

wow. when i read that i got a jolt like a cup of coffee. i've just made contact with all four pentagram archangels, over 4 workings over 4 days, and that is EXACTLY how i described them. hmm, just more confirmation about magick.....
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Old 02-20-2005, 11:22 PM   #8
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[QUOTE]I also agree that gabriel is the best to deal with in medidtations for from what I have read He is the one most fascinated with Human activity (could be wrong though
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Old 02-21-2005, 10:27 AM   #9
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I have heard that Michael allways responds when called.
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Thank you PsychoNox fer bringing this back up...it's always nice to see older topics bumped now & again...it helps to recycle the discussions and broaden the perspective. Also, Welcome to the OF!

I've meditated with both Michael & Raphael...I like Raphael better personally, though Michael was a great help. Though, fer the original question/post I really think it all depends on what one wants/needs going into the meditation. While this or that angel may assist in whatever needs assisting with there are times where another angel is better suited to such a cause. While I do not actually know what each is for I certainly would not mind knowing...it would certainly help me in future endevors.

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There's a rather interesting book I came across which was full of details on the meditiation of Angels. Its called "The Sacred Magick of Angels" by David Goddard. It should have everything needed to learn how to properly work with Angels as well as which angels do what functions.

Qryztufre thanks for the welcome.. Its an honor to be here hope to join yet more discussions to come

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The angel Azazel is not bad either, very kind and helpful... Muahahahaha...
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I have heard that Michael allways responds when called.

not true. once i got his answering machine.
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Who to meditate on depends on what you are looking to achieve.

Look to Raphiel for healing
Look to Michael for balance and protection
Look to Gabriel for vision
Look to Auriel for teachings
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I have heard that Michael allways responds when called.

This is true with all four of the archangels mentioned in the LBRP and with most spirits in general. If you call them, they will come, but you will not always be able to notice them.

Now the four archangels of the LBRP are a special breed. Each one of them manage one of the elements in our sphere so they are far closer than other spirits you might run into. And I am going to have to completly disagree with you Will_Powers_III. It may seem that way in the beginning but the archangels are not nearly that limited. Each of them can do all of those things and more.

The meditation might seem a little silly at first but give it time. What you are doing is building a relationship with the arachangel. At first it will be more you than him but in time you will be able to have a full conversation with the archangel and then the real lessons will begin.
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