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Dawid
06-25-2004, 04:41 AM
"The Magic Wand represents the absolute will of the magician. This potent
magical tool can be used for almost any energy-directing purpose, which
includes healing, the charging of other magical implements, and the evocation
of benevolent spirits." - "Summoning Spirits" by Konstantinos.

Is this true and if it is how to make a good magick wand?

Aeternus Dolor
06-25-2004, 07:36 AM
if a wand only "represents" the will of the magician, then why does the magician not just use his will instead of a mere representation?

In my opinion, people rely too much on physical objects, when magic is inherently non-corporeal.

Frater Manjet
06-25-2004, 09:02 AM
if a wand only "represents" the will of the magician, then why does the magician not just use his will instead of a mere representation?

In my opinion, people rely too much on physical objects, when magic is inherently non-corporeal.
Then riddle me this... Why use words ? Words only "represent" thoughts; and thoughts are non-corporeal as well. Why not rely on thoughts alone instead of mere representations?

Om A Piap (210/3)

Aeternus Dolor
06-25-2004, 09:48 AM
Then riddle me this... Why use words ? Words only "represent" thoughts; and thoughts are non-corporeal as well. Why not rely on thoughts alone instead of mere representations?

Om A Piap (210/3)
Because language is inherent in thought. Do some research on the Sapir-Whorf Hypothesis.

As for myself, I don't speak words, and my workings are entirely based around mental projection of my will to change my perception of my surroundings or to bring about a desired effect through endogenic means.

Frater Manjet
06-25-2004, 10:43 AM
As for myself, I don't speak words, and my workings are entirely based around mental projection of my will to change my perception of my surroundings or to bring about a desired effect through endogenic means.Then why are you are using words at this very moment?

It would be awfully difficult to order my espresso and onion bagel/ toasted x-tra cream cheese without using words... but it would be more efficient I grant you that.

Om A Piap (210/3)

Radiant Star
06-25-2004, 11:12 AM
I think that tools maybe important on occasions, I have used hand movements for a couple of things in the past, but during a mental ritual, was shown some tools and I understand it to mean that either they were available in the astral or that they might help me in the physical, so now I am open to getting some if I have something really important to do.

Rays

Fr.NovumOrganum
06-25-2004, 12:52 PM
"The Magic Wand represents the absolute will of the magician. This potent
magical tool can be used for almost any energy-directing purpose, which
includes healing, the charging of other magical implements, and the evocation
of benevolent spirits." - "Summoning Spirits" by Konstantinos.

Is this true and if it is how to make a good magick wand?
There are many different types of wands, but we are probably speaking of the "fire wand" or the traditional ceremonial tool set wand.

This wand represents the magickian's will, but his/her will focused and directed. it represents will directing the spirit. it directs the fire energies of the magickian, and also represents teh masculine sexual force. the wand is active and creative.

For background on the wand please see:

Book IV, Part One (Liber ABA) by aliester crowley
Creating Magickal Tools by the Ciceros
Modern Magick by Donald Kraig (it has a decent section on the tools--use, symbolism, construction, consecration)

Are tools needed? My current belief is, if on the ceremonial path, htne yes, they are. Making and consecrating tools is a powerful magickal act; the magickian is manifesting his dominion over the elemental world in these tools. i also feel that sucessfully consecrating the tools is a "stepping stone" on the path of initiation. your magick will be different, stronger, deeper after you have made and consecrated your tools.

Will you always need them? no, i don't think so. just as one step is to create and use them, another step is to find out they really were me all along....

can you begin basic ritual work w/o tools? yes!

FriendlyMe
06-25-2004, 01:58 PM
I dont know about you but the wand (along with words) play a serious role im magick. not because i feel i need to use them to reprisent my will but because i actualy do.

i have been conditioned (as im shure all of us have) to use words to articulate everything. Hell bodylanguage is inherent in us all and theres no way of controling it.

How are you supposed to use magick to do your will when you cant explain to yourself exactly what your will is?

palindroem
06-25-2004, 09:28 PM
Short of the long . . . no, a wand is not NECASSARY for magick. The only thing necassary is the magician and Will.
Any magical procedure you could do, you COULD do without the use of a wand
(yes, I know . . . there are some ritual where a wand is "required". This really isn't that discussion tho)

But, as in the case of a magical dagger . . . wands definitly have there place. If it weren't an important tool, ages of magicians wouldn't have bothered with them. Obviously they do hold a place . . . but aren't necassary.

Otto von Skar
06-26-2004, 12:01 AM
While wands are not absolutely necessary for magical operations, they can be an important and helpful focal point for Will. The wand itself does not perform the magick, but in many cases helps the magician by having a visual, psychial tool with which to channel his Will.

LadyHydralisk
06-26-2004, 12:09 AM
Just as there is nothing like the feeling of being immersed in the physical world with our greatest magical tool, the human flesh-sack, our body, there is nothing quite as nice as the feel of a smooth, well oiled wand.

Ok ok I know :rolleyes:

A well-made magical tool is much more useful and convenient than everyone lets on. I mean we could all be blathering on about the usefulness of magic wands out on some astral location but a computer and massive globalwide interconnected network of electronic devices is somehow easier to use.

Maybe it's because we're not perfect! :shock:

Radiant Star
06-26-2004, 04:17 AM
LadyHydralisk says on tool use:Maybe it's because we're not perfect!

Now THAT has just put it all into perspective for me.

Thanx

Rays

kollision
06-26-2004, 04:58 AM
The magic wand directs the will of the magician and is more concentrated. This is like using the finger, it is easier for the magician to "see" the energy as well as direct it. Its as if having a pipe to disperse water or to just let the water flow. However, the more experienced you get, the less you will need this because the mind will be able to take care of it more efficiently.
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As for construction of the wand, read Constantinos "Summoning Spirits", it has detailed descriptions on all the various tools.

GeNoCyDe
06-26-2004, 09:49 AM
The wand is an important focus tool for the beginning majickster,one he will soon dispense with like training wheels on his first bike,but one he may return to from time to time as well.

Here is how I made my wand:

A two foot long piece of oak as thichk as my little finger,split on one end and imbedded with a quartz crystal,wrapped with cotton twine soaked in pine resin and allowed to cure from full moon to full moon.

An alternate wand used in some Appilachian majick uses a silver coin instead of a crystal in a dogwood shaft for warding.

Zackisfiend
06-26-2004, 01:48 PM
usually the wand finds you, makin your wand is not hard you can use many different things to make a wand, but if you every wanted you could enchant the elements inot it or whatever you pleae, carve ruens in it, its all up to you...

PaulS
06-26-2004, 10:51 PM
Wands are tools, machines, they take on lives as they absorb energy. I have been making tools for two-thirds of my life. I can understand why some think it is not hard to find a wand or "let a wand find you". Yes a sacred branch can be used to direct energy and it too will pick up your energy with time but it will not be any more than your will - a wand is an amplifier of your personal energy and will. It is made to resonate, intensify and focus your will and energy. It takes patience, a little skill and much energy to make a wand from a living piece of wood.

If you would like to know how I make my wands just send an email at:

paul (AT) kats-robes (DOT) com

ask for a lesson on wands - making and caring for them.

Nero
06-28-2004, 02:16 AM
Here is some old advice that our dear I AM gave on making the wand in the cm forum before the first crash. He was talking about the wand but it really refers to all tools in general. I am glad that I saved it and I do not think I AM will mind that I am reposting this. (btw all of I AM's advice seems like something out of a fortune cookie at first. Read it over, think about it, then read it again in a few weeks. It will suddenly make a whole lot more sense.)

Posted by I AM:
“As a suggestion I would offer the following. As you make your Wand, focus on the purpose for which you will be using it. Do this continuously throughout the process of making it.

Then, when it is done, consecrate the Wand to its purpose. Once this is done, feel yourself becoming the purpose that you intend to use the Wand for and then become one with the Wand. Put yourself into the Wand. Feel the Wand as if you were inside of it and KNOW the purpose for which it is intended.

If you do this you will find that the Wand WILL BE your purpose. Additionally, in future years, what I have just told you will become clear.”

JasonMagicka23
06-30-2004, 06:11 AM
From my experience, a wand isn't needed, but can be used so if the magic(k)ian desires. To go about it, one would go to a tree and find a stick on the ground, never taking one from the tree itself. Next would be to thank the tree for it's gift, with something like fresh river or lake water, or fertilizer, then do an anointing ceremony and power up the wand.

doh
06-30-2004, 08:12 AM
I just wanted to respond on how to make a wand. Mine is actually a piece of oak that had fallen from a tree. I found it while walking. It just kind of called me. It, in my opinion, does not have to be a certain size or wood, just what is for you. It was the perfect walking stick size. Mine, I took home, cleansed and smudged it, then sanded it with a pumice (yeah, it took forever, but I figured since the wand was natural, man made sand paper probably wasn't the best way to go). I then burned the Celtic symbols of will and earth into it. That's it. I've been thinking of adding a silver or iron "talisman" or shield to it, but I'm not sure if it's necessary.

Caradoc
07-01-2004, 11:05 PM
So many people assert duality in talking about the magician and 'his will'. The tools can be useful in overcoming the perception of duality : -

Will you always need them? no, i don't think so. just as one step is to create and use them, another step is to find out they really were me all along....
Solve et Coagula ;)

Caradoc
07-01-2004, 11:07 PM
I then burned the Celtic symbols of will and earth into it.Why did you choose those particular symbols, Doh?

doh
07-02-2004, 06:53 AM
I used those symbols because those were the ones that I am more "affiliated" with (the Celtic pantheon). I chose will as that is what a wand generally "stands for" and earth because that is where I found it. I found out later that sometimes, some paths use the wand as a representation of earth.