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Noxlux 11-17-2004 08:12 AM

What kind of power do you use to fuel your magick?
 
Hi,

I didn't think about doing magick in terms of using any particular kind of energy previously, but recently I have had some slight experiences with raising the kundalini in order to do magick.

Now, to me the results of raising the kundalini, by chakra meditations or other means, is similar but in no way identical to the energy-rising effects of doing castanedas tensegrity-excersizes by which one definitely amasses power or energy which one can use to navigate the nagual, an operation which is quite similar to doing magick.

I want to ask this question to the members of this board because I know the collective experience is ENORMOUS:

- which methods of raising energy do you use to accomplish in magick?
- which kinds of energy have you experimented with if they are useful outside their original context?
- which energies known by different names have you found to be essentially the same?

Best regards
Nox

Chalis 11-17-2004 09:28 AM

I use several different energies.

~ Chakra meditation I find is useful for healing.

~ Natural energy I can draw in from plants and animals to use for protection and guidance. I have a strange ability that I call 'tuning' that allows me to 'tune in' to somebody's signal and adjust it so that they are broadcasting more clearly. This usually results in the unlocking of latent psychic abilities, increased clarity with personal issues, and a brighter, more positive, more powerful outlook on life. This ability is best used outdoors where I can absorb natural energy to fuel it.

~ I can also tap into a place I call the Shadowlands, in order to draw and manipulate the energy of deceased souls. This energy is given willingly, and I never use more than I need, and I very rarely use it. It is only ever used when channelling or when I need to do something fairly dynamic. It is also the most exhausting energy to use. I always come out of it with a strong sensation of vertigo, and with my sinuses all blocked up...

hungrykitty 11-17-2004 09:43 AM

I use sexual energy. I have body built for it.

Chalis 11-17-2004 11:49 AM

The temptation to ask for pics is almost overwhelming :p

However, sexual energy is a quite powerful source...

Fr.NovumOrganum 11-17-2004 12:18 PM

I guess the best terms for my sources are kabbalistic/hermetic. I rasie power via the middle pillar and the various greater foundational rituals (hex, SIRP).

YHVH 11-17-2004 03:10 PM

Well, I love using energy from properly vibrated Words of Power. Usually, in a LBRP let's say, I don't vibrate them correctly, as in Liber O for various reasons.

I form the circle for Goetics thus: I use I AM's method as described in THE CIRCLE talking points, which works perfectly for me. I vibrate a name and use the specific effect to make 1 circle. I then vibrate another and make a second circle , etc, etc. So the circle has the divine names around it, let's say.


When I need energy for specific purposes other than the circle, I use the Middle Pillar. I've not experimented much with using specific energies, though.

SaintGeorge 11-17-2004 06:06 PM

I love energies from sounds, and crystals or rocks, I have a specific rock into which I pour excess energy as a sort of holding receptacle.

DropAndRiver 11-17-2004 06:57 PM

I have never really tried other things' energy. People sound fun.....

Noxlux 11-17-2004 08:28 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by hungrykitty
I use sexual energy. I have body built for it.

I want to ask you how specifically does a girl with a body built for using sexual energy use sexual energy?

I am quite serious in asking you. Previously I considered sexmagick outside my own bounds - but things change, and in spite of the obvious and occult differences in male and female anatomy I am quite curious as to how practitioners do it.

(It is really hard to avoid the innuendo when the topic IS sex :-)

Best regards
Nox

Fr. Qim 11-18-2004 03:08 AM

Raising energy
 
Invoke! Invoke! Invoke!

Horus 11-18-2004 04:06 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Noxlux
- which methods of raising energy do you use to accomplish in magick?
- which kinds of energy have you experimented with if they are useful outside their original context?
- which energies known by different names have you found to be essentially the same?
It depends, often I draw energy in on my breath and transmute it into whatever planetary/elemental/etc. energy being used. I generally do this by color correspondence but I have a few other different methods I use sometimes too. Sometimes I don't use the energy paradigm at all. I personally think all of the energy used in mystical/magickal schools around the world is the same energy just transmuted and having different "intelligences." Ki, Chi, Prana, Kundalini, etc.

LadyHydralisk 11-18-2004 04:22 AM

Agree w/Fr. Qim :D

fiat_lux_777 11-18-2004 06:28 PM

93

If you look into it, you will find that magickal "energy" has its basis in sexuality, but not necessarily sex ;) Perhaps polarity and the interplay between yin and yang may be a better term. Methods for raising the "energy" are pretty much unlimited - methods I often employ include meditation, fasting, planetary and astrological configurations, Middle Pillar or similar, dancing, chanting, sex, physical exertion, prayer, invocation, pain, sensory deprivation or anything else that strikes my fancy :)

93 93/93

Todd

YHVH 11-18-2004 06:51 PM

And music!
Well, in this case, "musick".

Panu Nahka 11-19-2004 12:12 AM

If I have happened to "harvest" some extra potential to my pattern I might "bleed" it off to my effort. I simply add "Kenaz" rune to my song and focus the energy to strengthen my spell.

hungrykitty 11-19-2004 05:30 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Noxlux
I want to ask you how specifically does a girl with a body built for using sexual energy use sexual energy?

I am quite serious in asking you. Previously I considered sexmagick outside my own bounds - but things change, and in spite of the obvious and occult differences in male and female anatomy I am quite curious as to how practitioners do it.

Its about movement, and intent.

Noxlux 11-21-2004 09:05 AM

Hi,

I just wanted to thank the contributors to this thread. I am sure that the readers of it will recognize many of the methods mentioned, and weigh them against their own experiences.

I would like to add a second question - (one which has already partially been answered by some) - when you have raised energy: where and how do you direct it?


(Me ... like mentioned, to the chakras, or to a protective and evermore solid aura.)


Nox

GeNoCyDe 11-21-2004 10:42 AM

I use live earth current,Voidian source,chrystaline,planetary groundings,and human life force energies.occasionally I even ask higher powers for a charge.

Iamu 11-21-2004 03:18 PM

This may sound odd, but I've recently had a good degree of success dropping into a very light trance and free-associating rapidly; I notice intuitive leaps naturally raise my energy level, while negative assertions diffuse it. An added benefit of this method is that it can be used to program the energy as it is raised.

If you use this method for programming, I've gotten into the habit of identifying key facts about my situation and intent, looking at what about them doesn't sync up, and holding the feeling those thoughts evoke in quiessence.

*EDIT*: I just realized I wasn't at all specific. Let me give an example of my "key facts"--let's say I wanted to light a candle pyrokinetically. I might think to myself:

1. The candle has to be lit.
2. But I'm not sure if or how I can do it.
3. But if there's a way, I'm sure I could find it, somehow.
4. How does a fire's energy feel?

I find it helpful to have at least a word or two set aside to "seal" the connection between the thoughts, which queue one that it is safe and correct to let go of what you were just thinking. Personally, as I picked my word specifically for that purpose, I can much more easily trust the impulse to forget, as I am positive that I have considered the issue sufficiently first and this is my intention.

I have a theory that the memory of the collective feeling evoked by the thoughts works as a sort of an internal sigil.

Kuroyagi 11-21-2004 04:01 PM

mostly strong emotional energies, and what you described as "natural" I guess..(I also invoke VERY big time- via artistic creation- which is very similar to that light trance association+free imagining) (sometimes a bit of the kabbalistic method too though Im not very versed in that yet (middle pillar etc)

all in all energy raising is associative and a technique of convincing yourself (as all magic is-and could be seen as inverted- inwards directed- rhetorics) or getting yourself worked up about sth

for me magical energy is creative energy- sexual energy is only a part of it

Iamu 11-22-2004 02:21 AM

Quote:
all in all energy raising is associative and a technique of convincing yourself (as all magic is-and could be seen as inverted- inwards directed- rhetorics) or getting yourself worked up about sth
In terms of using energy to do something directly, I agree that energy could be replaced with any believeable mechanism, but next time you make a good deep connection, note your energy levels--they'll propably flare up big time. Yes, you're ultimately trying to just convince yourself, independent of your beliefs on energy, but for me, true conviction comes with a direct energy boost large enough to manifest my result. I was never told this should be; it simply seems to be the nature of energy.

I think raising energy levels is basically the same thing as increasing "white noise" levels in the brain. The more related thoughtforms that are active just beyond your direct consciousness, the greater the chance for a deep intuitive leap that meaningfully relates them, and, hence, performs a magickal act. Sure, it's all a matter of becoming convinced... but it's often hard to tell what's your bravado and what's your conviction. In the latter case, I notice that not only is my sense of self convinced--my feelings and my "energy" are quite obviously convinced as well.

Kuroyagi 11-22-2004 08:10 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Iamu
In terms of using energy to do something directly, I agree that energy could be replaced with any believeable mechanism, but next time you make a good deep connection, note your energy levels--they'll propably flare up big time. Yes, you're ultimately trying to just convince yourself, independent of your beliefs on energy, but for me, true conviction comes with a direct energy boost large enough to manifest my result. I was never told this should be; it simply seems to be the nature of energy.


Im not sure I understand what you say-by "convince" I esp meant actions and/or sets of mind that will make you tap into/raise energy. I didnt say that the energy (or esp: the interrelation and connection to it) can be replaced by a belief- the energy will rather flow/vibrate because of a certain belief (and in some cases you dont need it anymore cause you remember the path). when I talk of sexual, elemental, pain, wrath or whatever energy Im talking about the means (or the belief or way of convincing: the method) w which I raise it.


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