Alright, excuse me if I'm a bit slow, but in bardon's Initiation into hermetics, where he explains how to make an elementary in method 2 when he explains making an opening in the clay figure large enough to fill it to the opening with a fluid condenser, does he just mean a bunch of cotton swabs with your own 'organic prima materia', or is there something I'm missing, or skipping over as I continuously read over this? lol. Any clarification from someone who's used bardon's method would be appreciated...Also if you can compare bardon's method to the more popular sigil and jar base method, that would also be appreciated.

.::Sempre Bene::..::Chris::.
-Fiat Lux

I've never used Bardon's method (...yet (IMG:style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)), but I have read Initiation into Hermetics a few dozen times.

I'm still trying to figure out a lot of what is being said! Bardon can be a mite confusing at times. I think it's mostly his personal jargon that gets in the way.

I wish I could help, but I'm just not knowledgeable in this area. I can only offer my company in your wonderings. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

But yeah, I wouldn't mind knowing either....



PAX

Bardon was, IMHO, very concise about the use of fluid condensers. They range from plant decoctions to metallic salts...you can add bits of human effluvia if you choose, depending upon what you are trying to accomplish. Please reread that whole chapter. I hope that you have actually taken the time to read the whole text up to that point. To do otherwise is to short shrift yourself. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/egypt1.gif)

Well bym, buddy, I don't spend money on books for the looks ;-). & Thank you for clearing it up, to you it might've been clear, but obviously for some of us, not quite. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/drugs.gif)

.::Sempre Bene::..::Chris::.
-Fiat Lux.