my question is simple yet Im just wondering how you guys all know how much power/energy to summon for a spell..
sometimes I feel that spells drain me quite fast..and I was wondering do you guys know when to stop sending energy into the spell and into the world..I mean do you have an internal alarm that go's off or something , how do you know when the energy has been fully sent out with the spell..???

When you feel like it's enough, it's enough. Whenever you think to yourself "I think this is enough to carry out what I need done", then there's your answer. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

The answer is simple.

Don't feed your own energy into your spells. Attune yourself to the 4 elements and draw from them. Draw some more if you need some extra for yourself.
The source is unlimited and all around you, just tune into it.

I have to agree with smoking fox. Don't use your personal energies. Also, if you're calling too many entities (such as quarters, dieties angels) all for just a simple spell and not something that's a dire emergency you might feel quite drained afterwards as well.

As they said before, dont use you personal energy. Call a God or take your energy from the Earth.

Yes drawing energy from the earth has worked well for many I know, but I use personal energy all the time, at the begening I would drain a lot but as I got older and stronger I don't drain unless I go all out for something huge, which rarely happens. But when I do need those huge thing I draw energy from "The All" and or "The Elements". If you have any clear quartz or rutilated quartz, they hold energy rather well, but they leak if you don't keep them contained in either silk or metal. The reason why I brought these stones up, you can charge and fill these with energy to hold until you need them. And rose quartz is good for draining I'm told by a friend of mine. It's good to drain your energy every once in a while to clean your chakars and what not.

A visualization that I use to gain a complete "transfusion" of energy is to simply imagine a faucet which when "opened" drains the energy from your body and into the earth. At the same time "new" energy is pouring into the head chakra and replacing what has left.

Original translation: "Thou shall not suffer a poisoner to live."

This post has been edited by Sojrn: May 21 2006, 02:30 PM

I've heard of that method before, a friend of mine had once shown me a book describing it but not as a faucet, they just said energy like chi or somthing. I like your faucet method alot.


I still like "Thou shall not suffer a witch to live." because I play with the wording all the time with friends and tell them that the bible is againts witch burning lol.

i usually draw in energy from the moon during the nighttime and the sun during the day

if i need grounding of course i use the earth

and grounding gives you an extra boost of energy as well

i like to give some of that energy back to the earth though...when i'm done with casting

The energy you summon, is astral right? Never too sure although i saw a video where a member of the necro- cunjoured from his stomach, how would you do this and do you see it?

WRONG topic sorry! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/angry_pissed_off_emoticon.gif)

But still wouldn't mind knowing.

This post has been edited by Coffee: Sep 30 2006, 05:22 PM

not sure about anything necronomicon these days! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

its a good question anyway - it sounds like the energy used must be astral, but why would it tire you to use astral power?

non-astral 'personal power' would have to be cellular-level, like muscular strength

a quadraplegic amputee (no arms or legs and can't move or even breathe on their own) can still have a massive will and thus great 'personal power'

so, the original energy for the act of willing must be cellular (if being used only to create a pipe for even greater energy)

and then from that presumtion, would carb-stoking like a marathon runner work to better the effort?

time for experiments!

E.

Is this similar?...
I cleansed my house (smuged), but before that I worked up some active energy from hoovering. Which would make it biological in some way although deffinatly active and put it toward the thought of cleansing. Is that what you meant?

This post has been edited by Coffee: Oct 8 2006, 11:51 AM

This thread is starting not to make sense at all. Lets try and get back to the question.

To pick up on a number of posts. Energy can be gained from almost anywhere, as people have suggested: planets, elements, universal or earth energy.

I think how much it takes and knowing if something has worked comes with practice, I mean, there isn't really any way to measure it is there apart from in the results. My own concern would be with how well I could focus and put my Will into something more than the energy aspect, since it is probably going to be that the more focussed you are on what you want to achieve and the more you Will it, the more the energy you have chosen is going to grow and be directed towards what you want.

Why would you give energy in the first place? How does this work for you?

Putting things into perspective I've gotten lost. I can see that if you take away pretty much everything in the universe and have nothing. Then try to build something that works. Which is where im lost because what does this work with? I dont think we really know? So... If there is a cosmic nexus for my thought form to work in then I don't obviously know how this is going to work. But saying that... Im pictureing a whole (normally a sphere) giving it understanding (whats in the spell) and now activity in order for it to 'work'. Am I far off??? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/fish1.gif)

The other way I could see things is that we are in contact with our guides, guardians and God's, who watch over our thoughts and all we need to do is symbolise what we want and of course ask for it politely.

This post has been edited by Coffee: Oct 9 2006, 02:22 PM

It's giving energy a direction and purpose from your personal will and desires.



I think you're pretty spot on.


Which is kind of where I am at the moment. I'm a lot happier these days just letting my life go in the direction that is seen appropriate by the powers that be. For me magic is all about taking control in MY life , shaping MY future and getting what I want. And it all seems rather tedious now.
I'm a lot more happy and confident in just going with the flow and seeing where the natural order of things takes me - which could be where the real magic begins.