Greetings

I just wondered if anyone has an opinion or viewpoint on the cliched 'Chosen Ones'?

Are they among us now? What is their role and will they succeed?

My personal viewpoint is they are a bunch of volunteer incarnates who wander the earth plane in accordance with the ancient theories of weights and measures ... in that they merely live a life (any life) to ensure they add their 'weight of light' to the overall collective light weight ....

There will be a certain measure of light and dark at any one time in incarnation. To guarantee supremacy over the collectives overall attitude there needs to be a harmony or equilibrium balance of these two polarities. For many centuries the dark has out weighed the light. The chosen are thus put on the earth plane as conduits/channels to mediate light energy onto the earth plane.

In my opinion they might not be even aware of their role. The dark will know they are in incarnation and will attempt to neutralise their light by 'tempting' them into darkness ... making their lives full of crap and difficulty.

That is my thoughts anyway ...

Hail Mr Merlin, how go things in New Zealand?

Well I can't really begin to formulate a true answer to your question since the term 'chosen ones' is rather nebulous. Are we talking ray masters? Angels incarnate? This list can go on for awhile.

The people you're describing I wouldn't really call 'chosen ones' I think perhaps they who chose would be a better definition. To me you're describing the yeoman lightworker who for whatever reason or purpose has decided reenter the earth plane and do service for the 'light'. I would say that these people aren't truly 'old souls' (as chosen ones I should think are) but are more like a veteran of life, or perhaps better to say a experienced mystic. Now these do gooders are almost the opposite of the black magicians and though there number are surely fewer there's no doubt that they possess a greater clarity and vigor than the black magi. Are they hear to keep the balance? Well, I'm not sure a true balance exists at this time.

The Chosen Ones.

When I have most often encountered this phrase, it has been claimed by either an individual, or a group, that has insecurity and elitist issues, thoroughly saturated with the distinct demonstrations of victim mentality, periodically emitting a strong aroma of arrogance.

But then, that might just be because I am not amongst their august personages - and/or have not developed a taste for that kind of spiritual savor ... kind of like one has to develop a taste for the flavor of specific kinds of cheese in advanced stages of stinking mold.

Oh How I agree with you. Brings back memories of angsty teenagers who group together and spout that their "group" is the one that will be the saviour of all mankind. Eeesh. Of course all of their claims is backed up by some divine knowledge gained by means they've elluded at. Enh, then you look back 5 years down the road and realize none of these people have actually grown and are still in that mentality. Makes me worried, not that they haven't grown but the amount of people like that I've met.

The Chosen Ones. Isn't that like the Charmed ones on that Charmed TV show?

Mr Merlin,

It really shows what a solid back ground in occult knowledge and teaching you have in what you say. I can tell that you had a teacher as what you are saying is only taught by word of mouth and not written down. I doubt that very many on this forum have ever heard of what you are talking about.

The legend of the chosen nine. The legend is "That which is new came from that which is old and that which is old shall come from that which is new." There can not be light with out darkness, There can not be heat without cold, There can not be white without black, There can not be a north magnetic pole with out a south magnetic pole, There can not be a positively charged electron without a negativly charged neutron, There can not be order with out chaos, There can not be ying without yang, There can not be good without evil, There can not be a good god without a bad god. These are not oppisites. They are two extremes of the exact same thing. THIS WORLD WAS CREATED THAT TELLS YOU THAT THIS WORLD WILL BE DESTROYED!

The legend is Enki <God> knew this. After the great battle god made the Earth. Then he took the blood of the evil god Kingu and mixed it with clay and his own breath. So that man was made equal of evil and good and should have free choice like the Jinn. The blood of the evil gods would run in mans viens. But the breath and spirit of the good god would run in mans viens as well. SO the fate of the earth and the gods of order themselves was put into the hands of man. So that the sacred circle of Karma could be broken and this world not be destroyed.

The chosen nine were made with nine parts of the creator gods magick power. 3 plus 3 plus 3 is nine. 3 times 3 is nine. Nine is the perfect number of man. 10 is the perfect number of god. <Numerology> The chosen nine would live countless lives. They might be good or evil in those various lives. The magnetic pull of the choisen nine will make them come into like spirit. Eventually all would become either good or evil. And when the nine become 1 the tenth shall be sumoned! 9+1=10 <god> If the nine are evil Kutulu shall awaken from his sleep with a great tidal wave and the ancient ones shall rise and destroy the elder gods. If the nine are good the creator god of man Enki <god has many names> will come into the flesh and this world will become one with heaven.

Rest assured that the nine are alive and well and the nine are beginning to realize their purpose of being. Enki was wise. One soul called Adappa he made from a god. The god was made a man. That soul will never succumb to temptation. So good shall be victorius in the final battle.

Where did you hear of this and what were you told?

Peace
Smasher666

This post has been edited by smasher666: Apr 29 2006, 12:27 AM

Greetings Smasher666

Yes, I indeed had a 'teacher' ... but mainly the 'teachings' revolved around the Cabala and very little on 'the chosen ones'. In truth the very mention of the cliche would enrage her. The closest to the theme I could ever get was basically discussions appertaining to 'the blood royale' ... which I have since deemed to almost the same thing (but not quite). So where did I gain comprehension of the chosen ones you might ask? Certaintly not from books or other circles or from anyone else. I became a lone druid or 'one who walks alone' not long after my disgust with the magic group I joined and her selfishess and ego.

For many years I've been contacted by a group of discarnate/formless beings who through many tests and challenges (I should discuss these more but not in this thread) I became to trust their direct cognitive information. Through these energies (not teachers or guides or any other of the new age mumbo jumbo) I learned about weights and measures etc etc. Plus I already had the knowledge as a child. I've never been the norm in the magic circles; always been able to do things ahead of my peers without years and years of magic training. It was thus that my formless friends and I began a relationship which still exists today. I know they are there without need for physical form. I can call them and they can call me. They have an existence on another dimension or dimensions and I am to them there as they are to me here. Thus I am their eyes and ears and mouth and hands here .... I glean information from them simply. I have their comprehension when it comes to me much like my mind becomes theirs when I receive the information. It is a two way teaching process.

All about the chosen ones gleaned in this way is theoretical and high magical in its form. I find the whole thing simple to comprehend yet so few folk in the magic circles and magic schools can accept me or where I get the information. It is heartbreaking at times the ridicule and scorn and the physical abuse I've gained over the years because of what I carry!

As for the 9 I would say they are on the earth plane. Very much aware. In lives of uncertainty but with tremendous strength to remain positive. Their opposite numbers are 9 of equal polarity ... and the harmonising of these two groups of equals is what drives the confusion/chaos on the earth plane. Once the balance of the two groups is gained there will be harmony and stillness on the earthplane .... polarity is division which is vibration which is chaos. Harmony is stillness which is true vibration. To find this stillness is to sit in the quiet room with no thoughts and be nothing and be stillness.... thanks to my invisible friends I learnt this stillness meditation over fifteen years ago. It is the most awesome of meditations to be still/to have no division or vibration within and to just sit there as silence!!!

Peace to you my friend too

They will come not to polarise completely towards good or evil but to renew the knowledge of balance and the insignificance of terms such as these. The world is currently out of balance, and the spirituality that is being given to the people through the new age is one of forcing polarity towards one side of the coin rather than acceptance of both sides of the coin. As said before dark is meaningless without light, light is meaningless without dark and as humans we have forgotten we are beyond the grip of either concept.
The transcending of there being a need to define ourselves through the egos ideas of dark, light and literally any concept that the human mind uses to polarise itself 'for' one thing and 'against' the other will be the only way that humanity finally connects with God.

The Chosen Ones. That is a phrase that brings a smile to my face.

For starters there are many legends that proclaim the end of time and a new beginning. The most common ones referred to is the Christian apocalypse and the ending of the Mayan calander. But when these so called times arise nobody knows for sure except those few that do. Those who know shall not say a word till that time arrives.

The funny thing is that a lot of people are waking up and starting to become aware of their potentials. A lot of these newly awakening people are those who experience only a fragment of a certain aspect of the esoteric/magical possibilities and immeadiately get a ego issue. I shall share a personal experience of mine because that is always easiest to make something more clear.

A long time ago I was approached by someone who invited me to meet some people and afterwards invited me to join their group. So far nothing odd, because there are various groups forming here and there of people who are looking for like minded individuals. However this group had an odd atmosphere which became very clear after only a short weekend. This group of people consisted of 15 core members which are often together for celibrations and such. Stil nothing odd there except that these people looked at themselves as the chosen ones. They claimed to are souls of angels, demons, hybrids, dragons and many more fantastical beings. They were looking for other people with exceptional souls and powers in order to prepare for a ritual in the year 2012. To guide the massive energies that will come down to the Earth and guide it in correct ways into the Earth. Some people might die due to these excessive energies, but don't worry you would gain a rank within the hierarchic structures and councils of demons or angels or druids depending on the type of soul you are. One of the few that were the ones in "charge" of this group of friends was a woman who was awake for not even 2 years at that time and already called herself highpriestess and was to lazy to do any study of magick and claimed to know it all already from previous lives. She also claimed to be a soul that was a hybrid angel/demon due to her father being Beelzebub en het mother the goddess Venus. Even though this group were people who would cuddle people to death they were very dangerous people in that regard. People who had no clue what they were on about yet claimed they did due to previous live memories showing their true ego's. Or rebelling against christianity yet call themselves angels/demons and being part of high ranking councils with special tasks to do in this world. There was no reasoning with these people because they constantly thought that they had all the answers claiming to be able to look through "masks" yet were unable to look through their own masks to begin with.

Or at other boards and people I met that claimed to be interstellar Human Ambassadors and that they've been abducted by aliens and chosen to be the ambassadors with special tasks for mankind.

All these people need a good kicking and a few Dark night of the souls to get them back to reality so they can realise how flawed they truly are. So if someone says to me that they are a Chosen One I'll just ignore them. As for Chosen Ones I feel it is just that people are looking for something to look for with Hope and thus turn to legends, rumors and certain "secret" knowledge and thus form their own Chosen One reality in their mind. To me we're capable enough to save ourselves by some proper growth of ourselves and realising our true potential by achieving the connection with our divine selves. As more people reach that stage more "teachers" and "chosen ones" will appear.

After all these experiences I decided NOT to join a group nor look for anyone human being as a tutor. My tutors are those from the other realms and are a lot more trustworthy and correct then a lot of information I read from books.

What will truly occur is nothing but speculation anyway untill the time for it all to happen has come within reach.

This post has been edited by Sabazel: May 5 2006, 04:56 AM

I have been further considering this topic about The Chosen Ones for the last week or so. Here are some observations and concerns from such considerations:

The first point that comes to mind when I consider the very title – in light of how I have experienced the behaviour of those who affirm it relevant and accurate for them - is the clear suggestion that it references people who have been chosen for some reason. Many of them have proclaimed that the reason they have been chosen is because of who they are, and/or are not compared to others. In conjunction with whatever they are, and/or are not, being – one commonality stands out regarding them: they also inevitably further reveal that having been Chosen also means that they must do something in addition to being something.

In other words: The Chosen have a purpose, an assignment, a mission, etc… of some sort actively to fulfill.

And that brings up the question: what purpose-assignment-mission-whatever? Never mind a more situational one:

What Authority chose you?

Instead of attempting to catalogue the myriad explanations for The Authority, and the mission(s) (which I will consistently call them from here on for the sake of convenience) revealed by The Chosen, I will focus on some implications about being one of The Chosen – because that receives far less careful consideration than the ostensibly supernal Authority, and the epic plots and dramatic dynamics of their missions, that they often elaborately extol.

When one is Chosen, and when one also becomes aware of one’s mission – one suddenly seems to become subordinate to both The Authority and the mission. Of course, orders for behaviour originate from The Authority. And while such orders often are explained as the responsibility for one who has been Chosen to fulfill – what tends to happen according to my observations, is a complementary penchant for disavowing responsibility for actions made while fulfilling one’s orders (one's mission).

i.e. the infamous sentiment “I was just following orders!”

Whatever consequences occur, due to the actions of such missionaries, often are rationalized as hard outcomes that must be borne for the sake of doing whatever they were assigned to do. And thus, the fulfillment of such assignments, and the underlying ideology that motivates and justifies them, is placed and perches in a pedestal of "higher" (read: greater) importance than the reality on the ground. The mission ends up being a “higher purpose” that is explained to transcend the comparatively lower, mundane events caused from acting according to it. Ideology trumps reality, if indeed it is not considered to be “true reality” aka. “The Truth.”

(cue stirring and defiant music)

And those brave warriors who herald and uphold "The Truth" can rest assured that if they fall, or are captured, or are persecuted in the battle to champion their Cause (The Authority and the mission), then they stand with shoulders back, chests out, and noses lifted – on the “high ground” – knowing they are noble martyrs. Because they were Chosen. Because the are The Chosen Ones. Because their ideas and ideals reveal "The Truth". And thus, their actions always are for “the highest good”, and for the best interest of all!

An insidiously alluring aroma drifts from that kind of perspective. It smells tough. Uncompromising when it comes to principles. Yet willing to sacrifice for whatever Authority, mission, and integral ideology is so championed.

Some of the attraction also is the kind of self-righteous posturing that it enables one to do, which is frequently mistaken for confidence. Some of the attraction also comes from being able to count oneself in as part of an elite group of special individuals who have come on board to join their brothers and sisters, their meta-family, who are working together to bring about significant and impacting change. And there are other sources for attraction to all this.

I have known some who do not become so ensnared, and thus who have not fallen into that pit.

What differentiates them from The Chosen can be pointed out by simply changing the term to accurate reflect what they do: they are Choosers.

Choosers are individuals who choose how they behave in consideration of both their well-being and the well-being of others, after dialogue with others to discern common ground. When that common ground has been clarified, Choosers are willing to make promises based upon such common ground - willing to make common promises - willing to com-promise – with others for the sake of working together for the benefit of their selves and each other.

Choosers base action including the light of actual experience, rather than acting exclusively upon abstract ideology.

Choosers also tend to speak in the singular when explaining the reasons for options they choose. They keep it personal – they keep it relevant for them, first and foremost – with full awareness and acknowledgement that others may choose other options that differ compared to ones they have chosen.

Choosers take responsibility for their actions – passing the proverbial buck with a self-righteous attitude of martyrdom in the name of some supposed Authority, and/or for the sake of fulfilling some assigned mission.

And while The Chosen can only become part of their elite group from having been chosen by an Authority – anyone can simply choose to be a chooser.

A lot more could be written regarding this.
This bit just clarifies my take on it a bit further.

This post has been edited by Praxis: May 5 2006, 09:48 AM

I honestly don't believe in any selective group of people or beings that are choosen for any higher purpose than simply to exist by their own inate nature. Now I suppose it might be possible some higher intelligence has picked some group of people for their own purposes it only makes them special to that aim but not "ubermench" or something that is somehow greater than anyother group of people. I think anybody who would try to convince others they are "choosen" has an alterior motive for doing so, one that shouldn't be trusted. That boarders on fascism in my mind.

There's one thing i would like to add even if its a bit out of topic.. :
You dont have to be pinpointed out by the lord to do GOOD... :-)

You have been given the abillity and as Smasher would tell, "the limit is what you set to yourself...."

and as Brother Ashnook would say: You are a GOD. You are the incarnation of GOD. Heaven is WITHIN you.... This summarises all..
No real need of being chosen ones..
Gandhi, Jesus, Krishna, Mohammed even prefered to live simple and modest lives while doing enormous impact.. weren't they chosen ones infact?? even Einstein can be set a bit in in this category if we see the "impact" part of the thing.. but still some of them since birth preferd to live our lives.... the Human life.. the mortal life...
So anyone can be the chosen one... Just believe in yourself and you can do great changes..

one reason why Gods like us.. Humans did not take the immortality gift and we know the value of each minute that pass by... Humans fight wars knowing they may die and become complete unknowns and this is bravery that the immortal demons dont have...

Why do you think Buddha moved from prince life to mere common life... to appreciate the fact of being human!!! a real human .. each suffering one has and the pleasure to get on recovering from such miseries.. the real happiness is what humans are entitled... .... I got carried by emotion here and went too off topic... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blush2.gif)

To come to the point, If deep inside you want to do Good, just do it and dont wait for God to tell you that you are one of his prefered/chosen one...

And if you know you are the chosen one, I'm sure you like living a modest life if deep inside you love God, but you try to do the "impact thing on mankind".

This post has been edited by mystick: May 17 2006, 05:04 AM

First of all i would like to say good evening and hello to all for its my first post at SM boards.

Greetings aside, i believe that chosen ones indeed exist, one a high "cosmic" scale we are all equal, the words like good and bad, chosen and common do not exist, thats what i've been thought.

However despite what religions and wise men of the world say we do not live in perfect harmony, while there may be some kind of bigger picture that sees no need for chosen ones we cannot see this picture because frankly we are quite limited beings and that is why we need the chosen.

However we ( and i'm using the term we because i count myself in the numbers ) so however we perceive ourselves ( and oh we do like to think we are smart or englighten little bastards even if we refuse to admit it ) we are limited, blind, for hundreds of years the people thought flying is for the birds, then came the Wright Brothers inventing the plane, the chosen one are the motor of Mankind, as Jesus was to our souls, Einstein for our technology, the chosen ones are people who are not better, not superior they are simply ( or so i like to believe ) people who can see ahead of their time.

Some divine power, whether we call it Gods or Angels, some divine power sends forth people enlightened, with ideas, dreams and visions centuries or millenias ahead of their time, they come and change the world.

You may smile at the term but you know the name Jesus Christ, you know it after two thousand years as do five bilion people worldwide, few follow or even take his teachings into consideration but his name is known and will be known long after this board or even the very internet are forgotten, if a name of the man survived twenty centuries there is something in it.

Now i try to avoid any speculation on balance, light and darkness, but yes i believe that chosen ones exist, whether they are organised and know of each other, whether they are a part of the bigger picture or plan or a random occurence is irrelevant, what is important in my opinion is that those people push mankind forward on all paths of its development.

This is a very interesting thread. Mr. Merlin has come into knowledge of this legend by way of intuition. There is something very real here beneath the surface. The water is just to murky for us to know exactly what we are looking at.

We all live many lives. We can go up or down in a spiritual way.

Some are naturally more gifted than others yet that same power resides within all who walk the earth.

The question is not whether or not we are evolving as human beings as our seed mutates and becomes more god like. The question is what are we changing into?

Our humanitys group conscious will guide as as a whole. That karma guiding us into the direction of our collective hearts. What shall we stand for and to who does our loyalty lay?

Strong souls live many lives transforming in either the right direction or the wrong one. These strong souls bring much light into the world or much darkness.

We must remember who we are and where we came from before asserting what we must do. To have power over the whole world is only to have power over people. To have power over ones self is to have power over everything.

Greet the growing pains and challenge of the gods with a smile. After all it is much to be deemed worthy of such gifts given to us by our protectors. After we have evolved into protectors perhaps we shall bestow the same fate upon our generations.

Some souls were created stronger than others. For most souls Enki <God as I call him.> pulled energy from the universe as he put the life force in them. Other souls Enki breathed some of his power or breathe into. These are the angels and Jinn and that handful of human souls which are very powerful. Only a handful of these Earth shaking people walk the Earth at any given time.

The Chosen Nine.

This post has been edited by smasher666: Jun 26 2006, 07:08 PM

No offence meant but are you in some kind of a cult ?

It all depenends on the scale of things, if you boil everything down to the very essence than we may be equal but equality isnt the same as indentical, to provide a real life example all people are equal in the face of the law but they are in no way identical to each other or even similar, they are however equal.

As for same and chosen, my friend some time ago tackled the subject of potential, it is possible that we all have the potential to become Napoleon, Jesus, to shoulder their achievements but this doesnt immidietaly translate into capabilities, so you could say that we are all equal in our potentials but different in the wat we realize them.

Frankly while i believe that there exist levels on which we are all equal ( for example God loves us all equally ) i do not believe in 'universal' equality because of free will which creates a serious factor.

Free will prohibits equality so we have a paradox, while there may be equality in some spiritual sense for example all souls eqaully loved by God the material world is very much unequall in dealing out both good and ill.

Greetings

From what I understand ... the role or the act THE CHOSEN ONES are seemingly to play is not one which is to do with rank or spiritual level etc etc. I interpret to mean the chosen ones are some specific seed group or DNA signature. I have determined their weight or their harmonics when upon the earth will be like a catalyst for some programmed purpose. Their DNA has been programmed to interact with this dreamworld in a specific way. And it is neither a priveledge or a curse for them to be chosen.

It appears to be by way of their origins beyond this dream world. It is dependant on their heritage and their soul origin.

I sense they are 'doomed' to be the chosen ones whether they like it or not. The chosen should be read in the context of sacrificial lambs ... like it is a family genetics which determines them to walk the earth as a certain frequency. A certain frequency which those forces, which control the dream and oppose harmony, will seek to prevent from remaining on the earth for the duration they are meant to. There are always more chosen ones down on the earth at any one time than is specifically needed for the purpose.

Established religions will deem the chosen ones as the antichrist as their purpose appears to be anti religion and anti mind control. It is much like a computer upgrade or a anti virus.

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My english is not so good, but i hope you understend mine words...

Frim child, my mother tould me that god is the needeng of the human to beleave in something... To be strong in the weekness... To have a hope. Also, she tould me that "Theos" is "fear to be alone" (solitude?). So, you are even with god.
In mine experience of life, i see that "God is only one" and "all". So God is every one, and one. But the conection is the humility (humble). But why?. No to don´t want the mather or money, not. Is to be NEUTRAL, no good, no grong. And that, is like imposible in the human bean. Because are FANATICS. In every thing. Not only with the fulball team. Any education become to be a fanatic action in mind of the person. Culture?. I don´t know, but sertainly they figth for those principles ich others. Sertainly, the others ones, have the same feeling respect their owns educations or cultures or like you want to seid. But... The trut is only one. If it exist.
Why no one can see that, because are FANATICS.
And that you can proyect to any thing in the comportament of the human.
I remember the word of Juan Pablo II, when the ligth become to be dark... Not textual but... "Now, nearest to die, i can see the non importace of the mather (matherialistisc way)" and steel talking abouth something in the way to be neutral.
I seen in my father, in peace repose, the terrible change when he had hes first infart. But then... When become strong, he forgot all hes promes. And then, after hes second infart, i don´t know no more.
That the human, praying to god in needings, but never giving the tankes. Or maybe yes, in words not in deep feelings and less, in acts.

Backing to the chosen one, i think something. If the reencarnation exist. Then Jesus Crist can be only one. And exist like human bean.
But for the people das not exist any more, because is in EVERY WHERE. So, for me is such an out full that the human mind can not support. Is like mine praying to god when i was very yung... "God, everything powerfull, create to as, only to know that you are inmortal, and like you create to as, make as POLVO (not know the word in English) in the land".
Yes brethen, the only way to have sence the life is to be ethernal.