When you guys summon a spirit, do you acually see it? Or is its presence made in other ways? Ive read a lot about it but I havent tried myslef yet (IMG:style_emoticons/default/hmm.gif)

It depends. Usually they are summoned in to the dark mirror and you see them there. Although I think it might be possible to summon one onto the physical plane.

Different people have different gifts of perception. I sense a spirit by its energy and by is energy can identify it. I sometimes do see a dark area moving for a split second. The air should feel cold where the spirit is. The temperature will be at least 4 degrees cooler. Sensing air movement is another way. Often spirits make banging or tapping noises on the walls. Demons like to make a click click noise.

Some people can see spirits. I sometimes see them very briefly. I have never seen a spirit manifest fully in the physical. In the astral they are easy to see. One thing you can do is while communicating in the physical with the spirit close your eyes and see the spirit in the astral.

If you want a spirit to manifest to a point where you can sense it or possibly see it better than give it a large sacrifice. You want to make alot of smoke. Burn alot of incence. Pour wine over bread. Set out grapes or fruit. Burn some fresh bread so that it smokes. Incense should be burned appropriate for the spirit. Do not buy the assorted incense. Strange odors seem to attract malficks. Perhaps they like the impurity. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/taz.gif)

This post has been edited by smasher666: Jul 3 2006, 05:33 PM

oh i see, and when communicating with the entity, is the voice present in the room, or can it only be heard by you alone?

Also depends on the strength of the summoning/sacrifice, as well as the power of the entity, and sensitivity of surrounding individuals, if there are any. Strange things can happen, if you're 'loose' enough to inadvertantly channel a spirit.

Once I did a communion evocation with my Messenger (think higher self) and during the communion, I was hearing its voice from outside/within myself at once, and responding mentally. My partner, afterwards, knocked on the door and when I invited him in, he said it had sounded like there was someone else in the room with me who sounded just like me, but different.

Since then i've inadvertantly channeled a couple of entities - spoke outloud without realizing it and disassociated from the sound of my own voice.

I would try not to place too many expectations on what kind of experience you are going to have. If you expect one thing, and it doesn't happen, you may miss what does happen naturally.

peace
B

The summoning into material plane is a High magic worK that takes time,energy,and again lots and lots of preparations...
Is far superior to skrying,and after anyone succeded on the great operation will see that the spirits will obey you even in the smalest details of your requests...What,how,when,with what...you can then make all the conditions...the fact that the spirit is material to you it means that you became spiritual for the spirit...THIS is a great mistery....