i personally believe that the mind has no limitations it’s just a matter of focus and time and anything can be done, but I am writing this to see how many people agree or disagree with me. I always love to hear other points of view so please post our belief on this.

Thanks,
Night

i believe the mind has little power in itself. Its not a battery, or a power source, it is intelligence.

Its use has few limitiations, perhaps even none. The main limitiation is the amount of power it can direct.

Plug yourself in to the power grid (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

The mind is like raw diamond.. you need to remove the impurities from it and polish it.. But who can see the beauty of the diamond if no light is present... So when you have polished the diamond, bring it to light and see how beautiful it looks...

Have you even seen a diamond exposition without several light bulbs surrounding it ;-)



The light can be compared to the divine intelligence.. Once you tune to that and understand how to manipulate and become one with the 5 elements, your mind sets the limits...

You could even take it that you wont die till you wish for it... I dont know if for the western people would really believe my words but those of the Eastern (tantra practitioners) know what i mean here...

Intelligence without mind is like an egg without a shell.

As Night said : "i personally believe that the mind has no limitations"

Imagine a light without a source. Any power, whatever, must have a beginning. A computer is Mind. Its programmes are Intelligence.
The mind is an unlimited space.

When the brain dies it has reached the periphery of space, where there is a black hole - death. Nothing escapes death and the light at the end of the tunnel of the wormhole of death is the next life. Many percieve it to be heaven. Whatever it is, the mind will contine throughout the cosmos and chaos of life and death and rebirth, and during its evolutions, like the proverbial rolling stone, it gathers intelligence and then comes wisdom. That is another story. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)




I like to spell programmes with 2 Emms - those who are interested. Programmes.


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yes, but what a computer processes, the data the programs use, must come from outside sources.

So is it with the apparant power the mind wields, it too comes from outside.
The mind is a director, it can direct masterpieces of music, orchestrate world wars. But the power in these things come from the musical instruments and its performers bodies. Or the bomb shells destroying houses during a war.
In itself, the mind cannot do much to influence the outside.

Magic, imho is directing the energies around us to do seemingly impossible feats.

The computer analogy makes me wonder. A program is written by a programmer. But who is then the programmer of the human mind?

I do believe that the mind is very powerful, but i also believe that the only unlimited power in the universe is Creation (i.e. God whatever name you use).

i beleive that the mind has unlimited power because we are connected to the universe and all the power within it. the mind can manipulate matter and energy to do what ever we want because all is connected. but again that is my belief.

I dont think that the mind has any limits at all. I mean we only use 10% of our brains... imagine what we are totally capable of.

moonlit

The mind is limmited in that it must learn how to learn and then experience to learn. But I don't believe in any limmits to what the mind can experience and learn from.

I believe that mind has great power, but I also believe that we have to develope and train our minds to the extent that we want to use it.
From my brief experience as a human being I have noticed that their are three major types of people living in the world.

This is only an opinion and in no way is based on demographics, race or religion.


There are the type of people that are constantly trying to improve their surroundings and standards. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/search.gif)

There are the type of people that are satisfied with themselves and seek no further improvment. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/mf_popcorn.gif)

There are the type of people that are gradually degrading themselves to a gross and negative lifestyle. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/drugs.gif)


The wheel always turns in my head, what about yours? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/mf_bookread.gif)

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This post has been edited by benrachor: Jun 22 2006, 10:02 PM

i agree that the mind can only reach the levels that it is trained to reach, but imo if you train your mind enough it can reach incredible levels, but that kind of power would take decades or centuries to acquire. Not to mention that that kind of power would require the wisdom to use it properly.

Night is right. The only thing that is impossible is what we think is impossible. We set our own limitations.

I believe the mind to be two sides of a coin. One side the physical and the other spiritual. One subject to physical limits and the other unknown possiblities. However measure of it's power should less be considered.

In a sense, how does one define the power of the mind? Is it how much knowledge it has? Is it how much it can learn?

Rather than answer these questions, perhapes one must redefine what the 'mind' truely is... If it's the brain you refer to, then your mearly describing a radio amongst the wide range of frequencies that it can pick up... A receptor that physically contains what we know and what we retain in this physical plane of exisitance...

Not tying to preach, but to understand the "mind" you have to be able to understand the realm in which the mind is apart of... There is an entire Mental Plane out there, just full of ideas from all over the know and unknown universe...

All you have to do is reach out and grab it... And then the journey is all up to you where you take you "mind"...

I dont think its how much knowledge it has, but merely the way in which you can attune it to broaden the senses so to speak by force of will and with practice. We struggle to put a name tag on this and so we call it the power of the mind. But i do undersand what you're trying to say.

The human brain (which makes the mind) is more powerful that a million supercomputers. But, it is not without it's limitations. For instance, according to String Theory, there are in fact 11 dimensions, only 4 of which can be observed by the human mind. And the power of the mind varies from person to person. Some people are "smarter" than others, meaning that their brain's capability is larger.

Aside from mental incapacity that is found in illness or general low levels of intelligence, I believe that the mind is limitless. The thing that has placed boundaries around us is Evolution. With each evolvement we have set out minds on a course with blinkers around it, we no longer allow ourselves to be what we really are, and sadly I'm not sure that the masses ever can be now.

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LitzB: You said "we no longer allow ourselves to be what we really are". If you are "limited by the boundaries of evolution" then you would not be here. Evolution allows your mind to SEEK and not be RESTRICTED, and as you are querying and arguing I do not think that you really believe what your are saying. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sport_boxing.gif) Imagination and the mind are the size of the universe, and that is ever expanding.

Indeed, I do not think evolution has much to do with it actually. That is more like the restrictions that "Creationism" place on things, slotting events into the grand scheme of biblical reference. IMO Evolution is growing and changing, an ever increasing spiral and alteration, whereas creation is a one-off event.

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Alafair,

I understand the point which you argue (IMG:style_emoticons/default/bigwink.gif) However, perhaps I did not write clearly. I refer to Evolution as the blinkered process of Westernisation that we live through today, not the schema that allows us to be here at all.

Sometimes I am at one with my mind and others I am not. The times that I am not is when I step off of the great hamster wheel of life and seek the expansion that you talk of.

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i believe that our minds have no limits but the society we live in has put restrictions on our abilities to expand our mind, we have been taught that humans can't do this or that and because we are told this we believe it on some level. if we fight this programming we can break the programming and expand our minds infinitely, but we will have to break barriers every so often until we either can't break a barrier and we stay at that level or we brake all the barriers in this plane of reality. this is just my opinion feel free to disagree.

I am always amazed at HOW and WHY reasoning and so-called mature individuals persist in decrying the extraordinary powers of the mind. Why is it that everything must be proven before it can be thought a possibility.

Why can the impossible not be accepted as being fact? IMO if it were, then more things "impossible" would happen.

If you put blinkers on a race horse he can only look in the direction he is going. Takeoff those blinkers from humans and imagine all the INCREDIBLE possibilities.

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To be unaware of one's limitations is to remain in darkness. All physical things have their limits. The mind is a construct of the brain (or at least is confined by the brian) and all brains are not created equally. That is scientific fact. If one's brain directly effects one's mind (whether by construct or confine) than ergo, everyone's mind is not created equal.


Look at magick for example. Some people are much more capable of performing certain feats, grasping certain concepts or using psychic abilities than others. I believe it to be in grave error to take a stance of universal equality. One MUST be aware and recognize their limitations. Sometimes these limitations can be overcome, but sometimes not. In the case of not, rather than senselessly trying again and again to overcome, the person should in fact look for ways to work around, or prop up said limitation.

in my opinion the mind is infinite because the mind is connected to the whole and the brain is just a small part that makes our body move and contains a very small portion of our true knowledge. since we are connected to all we can change anything by our will but we must except our abilities and not be confined my our perceptions that restrict us.

In my opinion the mind is just a holster for our concious self.
It is said that if we would use 100% of our minds we would become perfect beings without any physical need (food , water , sleep etc)
I also belive we have equal power give to us by our Creator(God , Budha etc) but many keep it in the shadow out of fear that learning about the mind is against their religion or tradition.
There are many who have surgery without an anesthetic or walk on hot coal or lower their heartbeat , so I think it's just a problem of mind over matter because most of us (including me) are slaves of our bodies - for simple acts like hunger ; the mind , the true master of man's destiny is ignored.
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This post has been edited by alin: Aug 31 2006, 01:40 PM

yeah i do believe that thee mind has no limits to it we just have no time on this earth to even come close to mastering it

I think that humans have lots of potential.
And soon science will discover manny great and profound things.
I also think they will be able to develope the mind with new discoverys and will
also learn to increase our life expectency by a far ammount.
Maybe even forever some how.
Only time will tell.

"As you sow,so shall you reap."

This post has been edited by AstralFlare: Sep 1 2006, 03:36 PM

Was it Eckhart Tolle who said "We are not our minds"?

It's an interesting concept.

When we achieve meditation, our brain is at rest, and we feel peace.

But our brains instinctively want to focus. Does our brain = our mind? Or does the stillness that exists behind our daily avalanche of thoughts = our mind?

Perhaps it's both.

Sometimes I feel like my brain is a sophisticated super computer, capable of instant miracles. But I've ignored the Instruction Manual, and I'm using it as a hammer instead.

This post has been edited by Colonel: Sep 1 2006, 08:09 PM

The bigger question remains , were to find an instruction manual ? I'd read it if I'd have it.

Honestly, I feel like I've learned all I need to know. The struggle for me is in using the tools I've gathered.

It's the essential difference between knowledge and wisdom.

Well you'll have to be a bit more specific , I'm a little brain-dead in this department.
How have you gathered the knowledge and how do you use it ?
Or do we already have the knowledge from Day 1 ?