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Alexodeus
post Sep 13 2006, 09:10 AM
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Does time travel exist and is it actually possible? to go back and forth in time?
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post Sep 13 2006, 01:02 PM
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I would say yes, it is possible. But, from what I understand only through O.B.E (out of body experience). I've actually moved forward a couple hours at one point. I had gone to bed with my husband in a guest room at a friends house. While I was trying to fall asleep I was thinking of something (at this point I'm not sure what it was or if it was anything important) and I don't even remember falling asleep or if I even did. I sat up and looked at the digital clock and it had said 3:14. I felt completely conscious and in control of my body and it didn't even cross my mind that I might have been asleep or outside my body. I looked down at my husband (who was asleep) and then back at the clock and 'knew' that THAT was NOT the correct time. I laid back down completely confused and there was a small moment of blackness to where I don't even remember what happened (this 'blackness' or 'void' came and went so quickly it almost didn't even register in my mind) and then I sat back up again and looked at the clock which said 12:10.

Needless to say I was a little freaked out at first. But, after following up on it through reading a couple books, time travel through O.B.E. is completely possible.


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post Sep 13 2006, 03:47 PM
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QUOTE(Angalor @ Sep 13 2006, 03:02 PM) *
I would say yes, it is possible. But, from what I understand only through O.B.E (out of body experience). I've actually moved forward a couple hours at one point. I had gone to bed with my husband in a guest room at a friends house. While I was trying to fall asleep I was thinking of something (at this point I'm not sure what it was or if it was anything important) and I don't even remember falling asleep or if I even did. I sat up and looked at the digital clock and it had said 3:14. I felt completely conscious and in control of my body and it didn't even cross my mind that I might have been asleep or outside my body. I looked down at my husband (who was asleep) and then back at the clock and 'knew' that THAT was NOT the correct time. I laid back down completely confused and there was a small moment of blackness to where I don't even remember what happened (this 'blackness' or 'void' came and went so quickly it almost didn't even register in my mind) and then I sat back up again and looked at the clock which said 12:10.

Needless to say I was a little freaked out at first. But, after following up on it through reading a couple books, time travel through O.B.E. is completely possible.


Ahhhh, that has happened to me before as well, but I have only just now connected the memory to this phenomenon. I think I just thought I was dreaming, this was a year and more ago (i've only recently become more adept at instigating OBEs.)

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Hello
Does time travel exist and is it actually possible? to go back and forth in time?
I await any replies,
Thank you


Learn to astral project, then apply your attention to the reality of the dimension of time. From there it'll all fall into place, but it's easier to navigate 'back' than it is to navigate 'forward'. Some difficulty with the immediate context of your physical body to a specific temporal locale, although I have read experiences in the past which, if valid, suggest that is a difficulty that can be overcome...

In the subtle dimension time and space exist as a unified, unstructured field. You can learn to enforce whatever structure you choose onto the substance of your locale, once you have your fins under you there, including any point in the dimensions of time and space, assuming you have some connection (experience) to connect you to it (which is far more broad an inclusion than it sounds).

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post Sep 14 2006, 01:11 AM
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Hello Vagrant Dreamer,
I have heard of astral travelling and i am planning to get into the topic as soon as i can. However. I need a starting point Do you have any book suggestions for me to begin with and more advanced ones for later on?
Thank you, Alexandros

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post Oct 15 2006, 12:48 PM
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Ive not done any astral travelling myself as such so I have no idea what you would need to do, although if its a case of projecting thoughts 'to' somewhere then why not some time. Although I can only say that if we could then we might make a mess of time! so it wouldnt be advisary.

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i know this is an old post but o well

from personal experince time travel is definitely possible with help from spirits
as for traveling through time only to the past or a short time in to the future since there is no definite future possibility

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post Nov 20 2007, 11:06 PM
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QUOTE(Kutulu @ Sep 13 2006, 10:10 AM) *
Hello
Does time travel exist and is it actually possible? to go back and forth in time?
I await any replies,
Thank you


No, it is not. Time is non reversible on the macroscopic level. Our perception of time is somewhat of a linear fashion and somewhat different than time according to physics. Time is actually defined more as a curve not a line. It is more circular in nature. Pre cognition works on the ability of the consciousness to detach itself from the usual "human" perception of time and observe time in a more circular manner. Some forms allows one to say multiple possibilities and probabilities , but that is another subject. In "astral form how you percieve the world is changed. Instead of perceiving reality through sensory mechanisms, you are sensing things as they are. That is the best way I can put it. Take someone who astral projects for the first time. They are blind. They can not see. They are used to seeing through their physical eyes, so their mind is used to using that sense. Of course you don't have physical eyes to see with, so the person won't be able to see. The perception of things is changed so it is quite possible to see things in the past and the future more clearly when astral projecting, however, it is more of a virtual image that can not be altered.

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What is ‘the perception of time’?
The very expression ‘the perception of time’ invites objection. Insofar as time is something different from events, we do not perceive time as such, but changes or events in time. But, arguably, we do not perceive events only, but also their temporal relations. So, just as it is natural to say that we perceive spatial distances and other relations between objects (I see the dragonfly as hovering above the surface of the water), it seems natural to talk of perceiving one event following another (the thunderclap as following the flash of lightening), though even here there is a difficulty. For what we perceive, we perceive as present—as going on right now. Can we perceive a relation between two events without also perceiving the events themselves? If not, then it seems we perceive both events as present, in which case we must perceive them as simultaneous, and so not as successive after all. There is then a paradox in the notion of perceiving an event as occurring after another, though one that perhaps admits of a straightforward solution. When we perceive B as coming after A, we have, surely, ceased to perceive A. In which case, A is merely an item in our memory. Now if we wanted to construe ‘perceive’ narrowly, excluding any element of memory, then we would have to say that we do not, after all, perceive B as following A. But in this article, we shall construe ‘perceive’ more broadly, to include a wide range of experiences of time that essentially involve the senses. In this wide sense, we perceive a variety of temporal aspects of the world. We shall begin by enumerating these, and then consider accounts of how such perception is possible.


http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/time-experience/

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Modern physics views the curvature of spacetime around an object as much a feature of that object as are its mass and volume.

Time has historically been closely related with space, the two together comprising spacetime in Einstein's special relativity and general relativity. According to these theories, the concept of time depends on the spatial reference frame of the observer(s), and the human perception as well as the measurement by instruments such as clocks are different for observers in relative motion. Even the temporal order of events can change, but the past and future are defined by the backward and forward light cones, which never change. The past is the set of events that can send light signals to the observer, the future the events to which s/he can send light signals. All else is the present and within that set of events the very time-order differs for different observers.


A close friend of mine, almost like a sister, is a very potent pre cog. She says its hell. She described it ind detail one time. The future is a swarming mass of possibilities and probabilities with each one spawning a hundred more. She actually says the act of know the future creates a probability that what was going to happen would not, therefore, her being pre cognitive creates a paradox in itself. I am a post cognitive. Much more simpler, LOL. In astral form, you can see it takes on 3D form. It is like watching a movie, though. The wholeness of it depends on the scope of your post cognitive abilities and the future is just a mess. Watching a terrifying experience is worse in astral form. Much more potent and normally complete emotional audio.

You can't actually time travel, but you can see the events of the past. That is more tied to pre and post cognition, though, not astral projection. When walking around in my body, I lock onto a signature or a thought or an emotion or something like that. I kind of follow it back and throw my mind back. Normally, I get a whole bunch of various impressions that come in the form of a jumble of thoughts, emotions, energy, images, objects etc. I then kind of widen my scope and deepen it and try to piece together the information and get a picture of what happened. Normally, the further back I reach, the more of a strain there is and the more resistance my mind encounters. It is as if I am bigging hit by "mental winds". I have attempted to reach to far back before and almost got my mind ripped apart. I can do it the other way too, but I am not very good with pre cog and there is a psychological block there. I fear seeing something bad, so my mind protected me from that function by placing a block on it. Well it is more like me. My fear paralyzes my "gift" so to speak.

If you simply project yourself to a time that you want to see, you will probably end up in a virtual creation on the astral plane. You will find yourself on an interpretation of the place or event that your subconscious mind created. Personally, I say grab a string that leads to that time and follow it, but don't blindly project.

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