Is this the only sigil available on the archangels? If anyone has other version post here please.

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Those aren't sigils in the naming sense. From memory they're seals, which are different.

The sigil in my sig is Raphael's sigil (I kept it for the purposes of an invocation I wanted to perform, but never got around to).

This is Gabriel's:
(IMG:http://www.steliart.com/angel_images/sigil_gabriel.gif)

This is Michael's:
(IMG:http://www.steliart.com/angel_images/sigil_michael.gif)

And for the suicidal, this is Samael's:
(IMG:http://www.steliart.com/angel_images/sigil_samael.gif)

I don't have Uriel's, sorry.

This post has been edited by Zahaqiel: Sep 12 2006, 09:23 AM

The one in his sig is one version. The Magus has another one for Raphael and the others that are different but similer. Summoning Spirits has some but one of them I have never been able to find a source for. I cannot remember which angel now.
Also there are the ones generated from the planetary squares and rose cross.

In short, popular spirits have multiple sigils scattered across many sources. In my personal work with the archangels I use the ones from the Magus or generated from the rose cross.

Archangels from Rose Cross sigil creator

This post has been edited by Radiant Star: Sep 15 2006, 12:20 PM

Ah, yes, I should have pointed out that they're the sigils as written in David Gustavson's Dictionary of Angels.

So what are the Seals that Kinjo posted used for then...as opposed to the Sigils which are used to summon them?

Not entirely sure. I think they're used to invoke their power without having to fully summon them. Sort of like attaching that angel's stamp onto whatever ritual you're doing. I could be wrong.

This post has been edited by Zahaqiel: Sep 30 2006, 11:47 AM

some people create sigil themselves, HOW?
Do they use a specific magick square?

Depending on what system you use, you might use this:

http://www.wisdomsdoor.com/wb/hwb-sigil.shtml

I'd like to throw my 2 cents in the mix....hopefully not to add confusion.
Radiant Star has given you one of the more popular templates for creating sigils, etc. It should be noted though that in Magic it is how the Magician interacts with their universe that is key to the language used. You may come up with your own template if you'd like...just as long as you can understand and read it. I've seen the quabbalistic Cross, magic squares, a pyramid/triangle used, etc. Just so long as you resonate with it. I once made up all my own sigils and seals for a spirit evocation! The designs came from within! And, yes, everything worked perfectly! Good Luck! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

Thanks a lot radiant star and bym, that helped very much. But there are many planetary magick squares around like sun, moon,saturn and more. Which is best to use. And u said that I can create my own template to trace out a sigil. Is there any web links that any of u all know that teaches to create or use certain templates for a certain kind of spirit. Let say I would like to call elememtal king paralda or my deceased friend, which magick square is best used.

Thank you.

for elementals it is posible to use


(IMG:http://images3.pictiger.com/thumbs/16/e3ac3b7263dffd0a00278fe039f88e16.th.png)


this is a magic squar of 10 for malkuth i.e. elements

(IMG:http://images4.pictiger.com/thumbs/59/10b79b2742d8f3479a608521bcfc7159.th.png)

(IMG:http://images4.pictiger.com/thumbs/89/38067bd3159fd3a50d4786b4c40a2489.th.png)
paralda



though there are other ways there are some good ones in the elemental area of this forum

This post has been edited by Shabatai: Oct 18 2006, 09:07 AM

Thanks a lot Shabathai. Can i ask where did you get that elemenetal square. i have never seen that before.
how do you trace out paralda's name on that square. usually our alphabets are translated into numbers from 1 to 9, but you have got till 20. How?

i use the aiq bkr sorta(aiq bekar) in that i make it fit ie for 300=30,3; an i use hebrew of course, though any languge will work that has a # asocieted with the letters, an if not it is posible to add them.

oh i got it from wiki a while back though it wasnt in square i created it in paint here is the wiki link square #10

oh uh here's aiq bkr for refrence
(IMG:http://images4.pictiger.com/thumbs/35/8bd6b89f94ec9fba42f718d5ed217335.th.png)
notice the a,i,q; b,k,r on top from right...hence the name

This post has been edited by Shabatai: Oct 19 2006, 05:51 AM

Thanks that helped a lot.

Just a general request - does anyone have, or know where I could obtain, the Seal of Iruel?

Zahaqiel . . they only source I know for the seal of Uriel (like the ones you posted in Sept) comes from Poke's The Book of Solomons Magick
Apparently he used some kind of Arabic method for developing the seal . . . though it does look good, and flows quite well with the other "standard" seals.

The seal is copyrighted. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/lol_2.gif)


edit: oops . . . did I misread or what . . . did you mean Uriel or Iruel?

Later edit: My Bad!! its not copyrighted . . . its the seals for the four demon kings that are.
so . . here's a rough copy of his seal for Auriel

(IMG:http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v298/palindroem/images/roughrenditionofPokesealofAuriel.jpg)

This post has been edited by palindroem: Oct 26 2006, 03:39 PM

Iruel, not Uriel. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) Thanks though.

No problem.

I don't have any (traditional) reference to Iruel . . . (do you mean the anime character...?)

Could you suggest a reference for that angel?

lol - if you're referring to Neon Genesis Evangelion, all the "angels" there are actual angels, just adapted for their... VERY weird version of the end times.

Iruel is the angel of terror or fear.

I may go visit the National Library to see if A Dictionary of Angels has anything in detail. Apart from that I can't think of any decent references.

This post has been edited by Zahaqiel: Oct 27 2006, 01:00 PM

wouldnt it be cool if someone made a sigil generator based on the rose cross for the pc and you can just type in the name of the spirit and valla. presto press print and your done. Ild pay for something like that. I should ask a software developer to create one anyone interested?
do you know any good links for cheap custom software developers.
there should be something for calculatin the angel times too. but i dont use that. maybe on accasion ill do it on the correct angel day. but the sigil generator would be priceless

Radient star
when i tried to make these same names for the arch-angels it turned out totally different, is yours based on the latin letters or hebrew?

This post has been edited by daemon_reign: Jan 4 2007, 04:19 AM

Alas, has no one the sigil for Galizur/Raziel?

do you want me to make you one from the rose cross, if so what name ether Galizur or Raziel?