I've been wondering(for a long time now) about what occult related jobs there are. I do know that one can become psychic(and heard there is good money in that), but know nothing about it. Seminars are another, teaching, etc... I'm soon to sign up at a Metaphysical University online(its a good one), and as my minor I'm also taking night school for English/Literature, as I'm a writer/poet myself. Though I(as I'm sure many others 'mongst these forums) would also like to know more about what occult related jobs there are such as a psychic and how they can find these jobs. I don't have many interests besides the Occult and Literature, so I for one would find it very useful to know of the opportunities.

hmm There are people who work on a travelling circuit of pagan, New Age and occult events. Tarot card reader, channellers, auric artists. astrologers. Working in or running an occult shop, authors, healers of various sorts, ummm Ghost Buster.

You could specialize in making tools, for one (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif).

-F.F.

My anthropology teacher told me that Psychics get great money as their job. How can one become a psychic as his/her job?

-It's called being an entrepreneur. How? Take out a buisness loan, advertise & pray people come to you.

.::Sempre Bene::..::Chris::.
-Fiat Lux

Yeah i thought so. And the businesses who take you under their wing pay no more than $18 an hour, how shitty.

Greetings,

I hate to be the pessimist of this thread but you might want to consider other options. The purpose of work is not to have fun it is to make money. You could get a type job of which there is a much bigger demand and make alot more money than you could doing occult type work. Then you could do your occult type work as a side job. And seriously even if you are making tools and reading cards unless you live in a huge city the amount of work you are going to get is only going to amount to a side job anyways.

I am an excellent Tarot card reader but I do it for free. God gave me that gift and I do not feel it would be right to charge others. I feel that God has given me the power to truly see the future through the Tarot because he wants me to help others.

Besides I have a regular job as an Electrical Contractor. I worked hard to get where I am with a regular job so that I will have plenty of money to finance my occult life.

All of these Tarot card reader that I see in New York make me laugh. I actually really like the Gypsys and these Psychics are the true descendants of the Gypsys. The thing is the way they survive is by ripping people off. I read palms well enough to know when someone is bull$hi#ng me. They will tell you that you have a demon or bad spirit following you or a bad energy and it is going to cost alot of money for them to get rid of it for you. They will tell you whatever it takes to get you to keep coming back.

I recently spent almost $200 dollars in the village on herbs that I could have ordered really cheap online from a Gypsy. The reason I did not mind spending the money was because I liked the lady and I knew that she really knew what the herbs are good for so I was getting an expert opinion for my sick friend. Gypsys rip people off because that is the way they learn to survive in this world. Some can actually help you alot but some that I have met are just terrible con artists.

Be an honest person and get a real job and make as much money as you can. Then you will have the cash to enjoy your occult hobby and you will not have to rip people off to eek out a modest living. You can then be honest in your occult side job and that will bring you good karma.

Just my opinion of course. I just think you should view this from different angles.

Peace

I have to agree with smasher here.

The thing is that when you get involved with a job like that, for one thing you're taking on huge responsibility that even if you may be up to, you are still very accountable for even small mistakes. You have to be flawless to be a responsible psychic.

You also have to contend with your own ego. A lot of psychics out there were really good readers/seers originally, but after a while the money starts coming, and greed takes over, and then the ego gets in the way and while you may think you are reading well, either cards or auras or possibility matrices, you can easily delude yourself into thinking that you're seeing something real when really you are just playing to your own ego.

A competent magician can make a living doing spells for people, but that's just sort of an accident waiting to happen, and again you have to already be completely and totally certain that every single spell will go off without a hitch and deliver the proper results every time.

If you want an occult related job, learn to craft tools, talismans, etc. You can even go to school for various forms of crafting which will probably give your products an edge.

Or maybe look into counseling - if you can bridge your experience between psychology and intuition, you'll probably make an excellent therapist, and that's something people need a lot more than a psychic to tell them their future, or about the tall, dark and handsome man coming into their life soon.

I've gone to a few of the psychics in new york, as a sort of running gag/hobby, and so far i think I've met two who maybe used to have some ability, but clearly lost it when their ego got in the way. Better to avoid that pitfall all together than risk falling into it. If nothing else, you should wait until you are experienced enough to have acquired your personal power and never make a mistake with your intuition. You need to be able to totally remove your ego from the equation no matter what the circumstances are, and that takes a dedicated lifestyle change on your part before you can even get close to that.

Don't underestimate the power of your own ego, it plays a part in every thought you have until you have fully mapped out your own psyche, and identified where it affects you and how.

peace

CULT LEADER.

If you're not feeling too 'entreprenuerial' however, you could become a cult member lol.

This post has been edited by Seronleithian: Sep 29 2006, 06:52 PM

Hmmm..you could read tarot. I've been offered to do this as a job and it was pretty tempting. $30 an hour. The only thing that stopped me was the people. People have a tendency to become VERY dependent on your readings and take everything as fact no matter HOW many times you tell them, "this is what COULD happen if you stay on this road! Not what WILL happen." That and the fact I'd have to do it out of my home and the thought of having droves of people pour into a small little office like room in my house is not appealing.

There's also laws and regulations...see if you're in a community that looks down on it, chances are they'll dust off those old law books to find one archaic law that strictly prohibits "fortune tellers" from reading within city limits and try to run you out of town. It still happens today, some people are close minded on somethings. Specially if you live in a VERY small town with as many churches as bars. (yep, I use to live in a town like that, it's funny when you have a bar on one side of the street and the church acrossed from it. Hell, I think the church would do MUCH better business if they just melded the two together "Ok, every time the pastor says Amen, we all take a shot!"..Bah! now I'm rambling..sorry..) That and it's sticky, you can read for "fun" but not as an actual "truth", so on and so forth.

No. That's bull. There's a Japanese saying: "Pick a job you like, never work a day in your life." I've followed that path and recently acheived my aim and have never been happier career wise.
That said, I agree with your sentiments and do the same myself, but only for friends and family. If I receive donations, I don't turn them down except out of customary politeness. People are rewarded monetarily for their skills every day. Why should tarot reading be any different?
In the end that's what matters. I'm of the opinion that magick is a tool to conquer the material work, thus allowing one to conquer (wrong word) spiritual work.

Im sorry for the late reply, it's not that i've been away from the forums(infact i've been on everyday), but I thought i would get notified of my replies through emails, but now i found that i was wrong. Anyhow, thank you for the help.

Just to let you know, im not too concerned about making money, more; im interested very much in the occult and don't want to waste time working another job which will take time away from my hands. Here, let me show a logical mathematic explanation:

You're path is the occult and you want to magickally get as good as possible. But you have a job that you really don't like, but it gives you money to spoil you even more. You work 8 hours a day 5 times a week(which seems quite decent for a regular job).

8 hours/day = 56 hours/week
56 hours/week = 165 hours/month
165 hours/month = 1,980 hours/year

which = 1/3 of a lifetime!

Plus, you get tired after work, and all you care about is sleep and eat. Now to me, that's quite a waste, since i don't have much interests in anything else(naturally), and work would: #1 tire the hell out of me, #2 not be fun at all, #3 take precious time away from my studies.

The reason i want an occult job? Because i want to keep practicing and doing what is beneficial, and because i like it. Money means not much to me, as long as i can support myself a life to live and occult to practice.

The job also wouldn't matter much, as long as it's related to the occult.


I hope you understand;
Again, sorry for the late response.

Well anyone who gets any help please inform me on it. I am also currently searching to find jobs related to the occult.

I've heard that Reiki is being intruduced into some hospitals, I'd sugggest researching that.

I would have come across with a more informative post, but I couldn't access any useful sites here at work.

Although I think the best market would be healings. Also, if your putting real work into it, you can only get better, and stronger at what you do.

So good luck.

This post has been edited by Star: Oct 23 2006, 06:45 AM

This is just an off the wall suggestion but what about the psychics that do it because they have to, because how ever hard they have tried to make a go of other things in their life they keep being drawn back to it.

I really get hacked off when I see people just wanting to make money from it. No, I'm not whiter than white, no I'm not fluffy and I'm not a Wiccan :0 but what I am is a medium, a life-long psychic who has spent most of that life trying to be something else. Trying to find an easy way to make money and if you are genuine and you care about what you are saying to people psychic work and mediumship IS NOT an easy way to make money. Its a hard slog, people doubting you all the time, always having to be on trial and as another post said people becoming dependant on you. I've had people calling me at 3am to see if I've 'seen' anything else for them.

I did readings for free for over 20 years - why? Because it seemed wrong to me to charge money for something that came as natural as breathing, for something that I didn't know any different to.

Now however I work with it. Not because it was my chosen career path but because a relative of mine became very sick and needed me to be on hand and to be able to drop everything. This has been over a 10-year period and I have lost count of the number of jobs I have been fired from because I had to drop everything and run to her.

So really, get a regular job and keep occult studies as a hobby until you are of the mind set to know that its not a money-making venture.

Apologies for all offended but that's how I feel.

Did you not read my post? I guess not. Well money means nothing to me, I only wish to put all my time related to the occult, if that post was to "teach me a lesson" then I appologise but there is nothing you taught me that I did not know. Instead of helping you practically said what most others would say. If you're not going to help no need to comment at all.

And I really am not good at anything else, I need to make a living, doing what I have passion for, and no bullshit no one feeds me is going to make me get a dumb job im not going to give a rat's arse about. Sorry. If you think the best road is to do something you don't like and get the money cause it's the "easy" road then let those who don't want to work take it.

Maybe you underestimate me or don't know me that well; but I am a very hard worker for what I feel I LIKE and have PASSION for.

To all who commented: " I am very glad you tried your best to help ", but getting another job is not going to work for me. I was meant to work as an occultist, and write books as my hobby to share my contributions with other fellow magicians.


DeathStalker

And to add to all of that I wrote, being psychic is not the only occult related job. I've done my share of research myself and found many other jobs related to the occult such as writing books about your studies and publishing them with workshops, churches, and tons of other stuff. I WILLED it and I received what I asked by myself.

Again, thank you for your honest opinion and experiences.

There has always been this internal and external tension surrounding work. The aim for all of us "should" (yes i am now the god of what we should and shouldnt do), be towards a trade enhanced economic foundation based on individual self sustainability. Meaning as far as basic survival supplies people can look after themselves, and then for everything on top of this people can specialise individually or collectively in luxuries (luxuries meaning anything superfluous to survival). The problem with this is it kind of requires everyone to have their own land. This isnt on the cards as far as im aware (haha the cards get it).

Anyway im not sure anymore what the previous paragraph ive written, or the one i was intending to write next, have to do with what im trying to say so lets just forget them shall we? Anyway. I suppose this is a bit stream of consciousness. These are unorganised thoughts, this is not to say they are disorganised, just that they are yet to be organised. Ill leave that up to the people who read this. Hehehehe.

The point? Well I think where i was going was that id rather be working and getting paid arguably excessive amounts to read tarot and help people, than to work for a company like coke/maccas/bhp/nike/rio tinto/xstrata/calvin klein - you know what i mean - and get paid excessive amounts of money. But then again, ideally, i would prefer to work for a respectable & ethical company and get paid a rewarding amount of money, and be able to help people with my occult and non occult practices for free.

But then again just the other night - I had a dream, a dream that all neophytes were created free and equal. I dont know. There is something equally valid to be said about ignorance/naievity as well as self reighteousness. I think this, and you think this, and we both categorise averything as good and evil, and one of is is bound to come off second best depending on how many fools we can convince to lend us the weight of their public support. Youve got a bomb and ive got a bigger one, now you do, and now i do again.

Power constantly surges. It is a surge. Directing power in no way means you are powerful. It just means power is powerful. Power is everywhere. You are not the bomb, you just drop it. The bomb isnt even powerful. It only works once and it destroys itself. The power of consciousness lies in the will. It lies in the restraint of force, not in the expulsion of it. There is never more power or less power, except in its proportions in relation to space. This in itself is a paradox. For space is infinite. As is power. It is time and space that give the illusion of power, and the definition of eachother. The paradox is reinforced because the illusion is always perceivable, and rarely escapeable. So the illusion of power lives in us, in conciousness. Power is both created and contreolled by consciousness. The more you have the less you use. There is proof in this here.

Well well well who was that I wonder. I ceratainly didnt type that. Anyway id suggest that as in all matters occult writing is the biggest money spinner. Whether you like the ciceros or the craigs or the whoever they arents, thats where they make their money. Books. There is a real shortage and a huge demand for "authentic" occult fiction. The demand is so huge, and the supply so short I dont even think you would have to be very good to make a few bucks. Look at Clive Barker (this is a joke Clive im sorry). In fact thats what im going to do write now (excuse the cleverly inserted literary device). Ill have to come up with a good Nom de Pun (and another one im on a roll).

I think ive written enough for now.

Deathstalker

It appears I offended and if so, I did apologies at the end of the post for all those who took my comments personally - I'm sure you noted.

I really don't think that you absorbed what I said in the post. However, I believe forums to be an accumulation of peoples thoughts and opinions and I in turn expressed mine in reply to your post.

If you are easily offended life will not be easy as a serious occultist. Particularly if you intend to seek work in the field, you may take a few knocks yet I think.

As I said before no offence meant - it was MY opinion.

Litz

O Litz you did not offend me, I just stand strong to help others understand me and not misjudge me. I've learned not to give a damn what anyone thinks about me. I take in what people offer. And I ignore those who try and take my pride.

You did not try the above, thus I tried to explain who I was in a sense.

DeathStalker

Good stuff. I'm glad we cleared that up.

I've been looking into one particular line of work recently that really interests me. Generally pays little-nothing, but there are a few different buisinesses and societies of supernatural and paranormal investigations that take magick users into their crew, generally for protection magick and such. I think investigating the supernatural is really something I could get into. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/search.gif)

Update:

I've been reading an online business book concerning the subject of the matter, and I am to hold an ecetric business related to all forms of Spirituality (Witchcraft, Herbalism, Green Witchcraft, Magickal herbs, Magickal Oils, Wands, Magickally charged Crystals, etc...).

Online seminars concerning spirituality and psychiatry are amongst the many as well (as I study psychology as well).

Mostly growing crops and making oils etc... Divination of many forms too.

My partner and I will also be writing books on philosophy and magick.

The one way to succeed in this hungry society is to stand by ourselves and make our own grounds, none can usurp our freedom if we do not ask for it.

Peace.

This post has been edited by DeathStalker: Dec 22 2006, 02:51 PM

Hello,

Social Work and related counseling fields are increasingly recognizing the need to recognize spirituality as a component of competent practice. While generally a social worker will most often encounter those with more standard religious and spiritual beliefs, alternative paradigms of understanding and practice are becoming more prominent. For instance, gerotranscendence is a relatively new theory related to aging that recognizes that some individuals who turn inward as they age often feel a cosmic communion with the spirit of the universe, and a redefinition of time, space, life and death. Other alternative paradigms being recognized include the Gaia theory (interconnectedness of all living things) and Chaos theory. All of these are actually taught in undergraduate social work courses.

In addition, one of the core values according to the National Association of Social Workers (NASW), of the social work profession, is empowering others. To do this, a social worker is expected to help the individual affect change in himself or herself by showing them how to replace ineffectual thoughts, patterns, and behaviors with more effective ones. While the individual themselves is supposed to do the work, the social worker must also engage in copious amounts of self-reflection. This must be done to avoid bias and to recognize any buried issues within the social worker that could interfere with the client/social worker relationship. The client is ultimately responsible for their decisions and must be free to make their own choices (good or bad). To my way of thinking, both facilitating another in empowering themselves, and the mental processes that a social worker engages in, might be viewed as both spiritual and magickal.

Finally, social work as a profession is greatly concerned with social justice. This is another avenue of potential change. For instance, for a client facing discrimination, in addition to helping the client cope, the social worker may also work to address the issue of discrimination at large within the community. Again, to my way of thinking, this is related to issues of Karma and spiritual growth. The social worker that works to affect change in the community, nationally, or globally is also working on a magickal level.

I am speaking mostly about social work, as that is the specific field I am familiar with. As you indicated an interest in connecting the occult with your interests in psychology, philosophy, seminars, and writing, I thought this field and related fields might represent potential avenues for you to explore.

Good luck!

Ailsa (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)