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post Sep 26 2006, 03:15 AM
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Hello...have any of you any practical experience with Qlippoth? I am very interested in gathering as much first hand info as I can. Any personal exoeriences with the Qlippoth would be welcomed. Thank you.

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post Sep 26 2006, 12:07 PM
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Correct me if I'm wrong. But aren't the qlippoth merely sepirah that are extremely out of balance. Although I am also very much interested in hearing about experiences with the qlippoth or more information. It's one of the those topics that doesn't get much airplay.

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post Sep 26 2006, 12:30 PM
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The Qlippoth and The Infernal Tree.


Kether ---Thaumiel -The two contending Forces
Chokmah ---Ghogiel - The Hinderers
Binah --- Satariel - The Concealers
Chesed --- Agshekeloh - The Breakers in Pieces
Geburah ---Golohab - The Burners
Tiphereth ---Tagiriron - The Disputers
Netzach ---Gharab Tzerek - The Ravens of Death
Hod ---Samael - The Liar or Poison of God
Yesod ---Gamaliel - The Obscene Ones
Malkuth ---Lilith - The Queen of the Night and of Demons



The purpose of Gods creation was that he should be able to reveal himself fully to his creation. The sephiroth are an expression of Gods light, and the Qlippoth are an expression of the darkness. And as such it can be said that the qlippoth replace the unity of the sephiroth with dualities.

Each sephira has its unbalanced aspect; and these are said to form the infernal tree of the qlippot ("harlots" or "shells"). This tree may be viewed as growing down from Malkuth of Assiah in an inversion of the Divine Tree. Thus the unbalanced qelippa corresponding to Malkuth stands above that which corresponds to Kether - matter as master of spirit, an inversion of the natural order of Creation.

The qelippotic equivalent of the supernal triad, Kether, Chokmah and Binah, consists of Tohu(the Formless), Bohu (the Void) and Chashek (the Darkness)The remaining seven qelippot correspond to seven hells.

The tree of life itself has its opposition in what is called the infernal tree. While the Tree of life is ascending, the Infernal tree is descending. These qlippoth can be accessed through the sephiroth which is not a sephiroth. Daath, and daath is knowledge. The key is knowledge without understanding. The qlippoth can also be seen as a shadow reflection of the sephiroth. That each sephiroth has its own opposition, as each path has its own Qlippah.

It is the unbalanced aspects of each sephiroth which can be found in the corresponding qlippoth. And this is not to be taken as the negative aspects each sephiroth has in regards to each other in order to create balance. The qlippoth are form without force. It is unbalance in its purest form, which only exists for its own existence, and it is a representation of a dynamic evil. Malkuth for instance, in the infernal tree, is a reverse representation of Kether, where matter rules over spirit, which is an inversion of the order of creation. From the formless void came darkness.

The Qlippoth can be divided into seven abysses below Malkuth, as the seven palaces which is above and it is by the use of Judgement that the rulers of the qlippoth hope to regain their stations and obtain Mercy. The qlippoth resembles shattered pieces of glass, that which is contained - in opposition to the Sephiroth which are containers.


The above piece is from the following source: http://www.assiah.net/occult-and-occultism...fernal-tree.htm

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post Sep 26 2006, 01:25 PM
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QUOTE(Valence @ Sep 26 2006, 02:07 PM) *
Correct me if I'm wrong. But aren't the qlippoth merely sepirah that are extremely out of balance.
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~~~~As far as my own limited knowledge is concerned Valence..that seems to be accurate enough....but again,i don't really know.......it seems to me that the 'shells' were not created..but rather were the logical progressions,natural consequences of the creations of the sepiroth...you know...light a candle .. cast a shadow...............

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post Sep 26 2006, 01:31 PM
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Thank you Frater Si.......Have you experience with it?

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post Sep 26 2006, 01:48 PM
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What sorts of information are you requesting? I have some understanding of the Qlippoth, but your phrasing is akin to "anyone have any experience with Assiah?'. I haven't done any rituals using the inverse tree, but I have been in the upper Qlippoth and I know many whose point of origin is Qlippothic.

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post Sep 26 2006, 05:05 PM
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QUOTE(motsie @ Sep 26 2006, 03:48 PM) *
I haven't done any rituals using the inverse tree, motsie


Ok...thank you.

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post Oct 6 2006, 11:48 AM
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I don't know if the ' tzimm tzumm ' is correct or not...i don't know if the creator actually withdrew himself or divided himself or what....but I am certain that He did alter his postition in one way or another and this created a void............not really a void..but a space....and in that space were the shells of his creation..............these shells were not...'creations'....but rather residue of creations...........does this seem reasonable??

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