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 Unwanted Invader, Outsider or a manifestation of self
Ilmatar
post Nov 12 2006, 11:35 PM
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For the past 2 weeks i have had an unexplained connection with something or someone that nether i nor anyone i have spoken to can identify. I am having feelings that do not belong to me and i am throwing terrible tantrums for no reason what so ever. I also do not realise what i am doing at the time. I thought this was some kind of external control until i experienced an actual being in the private section of my house. This is so well protected that not even my partner can enter it. This lead me to believe that this might be a manifestation of myself. If this is the case i do not understand why i can not control it. Any ideas. Advise would be much appreciated

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post Nov 13 2006, 12:05 AM
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Greetings,

I think your right on about this being a manifestation of yourself. I dealt with something similar a number of years ago. From what i could gather, we as magicians (or pick your title,lol) can be subject to a much greater degree to our subconscious. I think this comes from the fact that our magickal workings of lead to us having much deeper wellspring of power within us. The subconscious can draw from this power without us knowing it in order to make itself known.
If we have some unrealized desire or fear that becomes really strong yet un-addressed, it will use our latent power to give you a slap in the head, and say PAY ATTENTION!
If this is case then I'd say get yourself into a trance/meditative state and then give this 'being' a name. It doesn't matter what it is, just give it a name. Naming it will give you a degree of control over it, if it's of yourself, that is.
Once named, call it out. Command it to make itself known by whatever means you feel comfortable with. Scream at it, swear at it, or try to 'seduce' it out with kind words. And hopefully from their you can realize what it is and either take it strongly in hand or satisfy it.

But if you discover it's an outside entity, then you can proceed with some effective banishings. I doubt personally that it's the work of another person assaulting you. The energy or feeling would be different i think. But a good hex-block couldn't hurt, just in case.
Hope this helps.
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post Nov 13 2006, 12:17 AM
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QUOTE(Ilmatar @ Nov 13 2006, 12:35 AM) *
For the past 2 weeks i have had an unexplained connection with something or someone that nether i nor anyone i have spoken to can identify. I am having feelings that do not belong to me and i am throwing terrible tantrums for no reason what so ever. I also do not realise what i am doing at the time. I thought this was some kind of external control until i experienced an actual being in the private section of my house. This is so well protected that not even my partner can enter it. This lead me to believe that this might be a manifestation of myself. If this is the case i do not understand why i can not control it. Any ideas. Advise would be much appreciated

I'm not saying this to be derogatory. I'm a psych student at the University of Kentucky, and I'm not qualified to make diagnoses yet, but this sounds alarmingly similar to mania or bipolar disorder. People with bipolar disorder often feel that their emotions are coming from some external source. Just my two cents.

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post Nov 13 2006, 01:35 AM
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QUOTE(buddhasmash @ Nov 13 2006, 06:17 AM) *
I'm not saying this to be derogatory. I'm a psych student at the University of Kentucky, and I'm not qualified to make diagnoses yet, but this sounds alarmingly similar to mania or bipolar disorder. People with bipolar disorder often feel that their emotions are coming from some external source. Just my two cents.

i though of that as a possibility but my therapist seems to think that i am sane (even if nobody else does) and he hasn't been wrong yet. And even if he is i doubt that a physical manifestation would appear. I will ask him to do some more tests though. Thanks

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post Nov 13 2006, 01:55 AM
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QUOTE(Seraphim @ Nov 13 2006, 06:05 AM) *
Greetings,

I think your right on about this being a manifestation of yourself. I dealt with something similar a number of years ago. From what i could gather, we as magicians (or pick your title,lol) can be subject to a much greater degree to our subconscious. I think this comes from the fact that our magickal workings of lead to us having much deeper wellspring of power within us. The subconscious can draw from this power without us knowing it in order to make itself known.
If we have some unrealized desire or fear that becomes really strong yet un-addressed, it will use our latent power to give you a slap in the head, and say PAY ATTENTION!
If this is case then I'd say get yourself into a trance/meditative state and then give this 'being' a name. It doesn't matter what it is, just give it a name. Naming it will give you a degree of control over it, if it's of yourself, that is.
Once named, call it out. Command it to make itself known by whatever means you feel comfortable with. Scream at it, swear at it, or try to 'seduce' it out with kind words. And hopefully from their you can realize what it is and either take it strongly in hand or satisfy it.

But if you discover it's an outside entity, then you can proceed with some effective banishings. I doubt personally that it's the work of another person assaulting you. The energy or feeling would be different i think. But a good hex-block couldn't hurt, just in case.
Hope this helps.
Peace.

thanks for the advise will try it out tonight. If it is me it is going to be almost impossible to handle but if anybody can convince me of anything it will be me. As for the hex block i have a permanent shield in place. (i have annoyed a lot of powerful people whilst doing my research) i also tried banishing last night but the energy levels did not change so i doubt there was anything to banish. Wish me luck with myself.

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post Nov 13 2006, 04:53 AM
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I find this exciting that you have a presence around myself, only you sound like you would rather it isn't.

It is easy in this day and age to psychologize everything and say it is in the mind. Some things are not.

Let me repeat that: SOME things are NOT.

Take for instance, hauntings, there are many proven cases where doors and windows have been opened regularly in buildings where caretakers and others have firmly closed them. Others, disbelieving, have offered to close them tightly themselves and found that sure enough, the next day, they have been opened.

As for you having a disorder, there are many people falsely labelled or called borderline who are no such thing. The popularity of psychology has many people interested but as yet not experienced enough in life to be able to accept difference without labelling it; and sadly, even some who are supposedly professionals at the height of their careers making serious mistakes on occasion. So forget bipolar especially since you sound like you have a therapist that you can at least work with.

Ok, that all out of the way, there are many things we do not yet understand in the world and although yes, your mind may be picking up on an entity or current of some kind, it doesn't mean that you created it, it could do, but it may not.

If you are having tantrums, I suspect it has nothing to do with the entity, but has a lot to do with feelings being stirred up due to the therapy; it might also mean that you are opening up parts of your mind that are more likely to tune into other currents or realms.

I suggest - if you aren't already - writing about your feelings in a journal and shredding or burning it if it is very personal afterwards and doing something very physical, like exercize, maybe swimming or dancing or something, add to that some chakra work or other balancing technique whilst you are going through this.

If you find after a few weeks, you still have an entity hanging around, its time to do some banishing techniques of your choosing. When the entity is annoying you, if it won't communicate, tell it firmly to go and go do something grounding, like eat something.

Most of all, don't feed it by worrying about it.

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