A demon by the name of "Dibock" (that's how it's pronounced try also deebak, debak,dibok,debock). Please help on this one. Very important.

you just wanted to get along the ancient ones??? May be some of theirs are interested in you :-) whats the deal with this demon?

Well, it's very complicated, but in short this demon seems to be coming in dreams to my mother and also my sister, and my sister has a debilitating illness which I think is somehow related to this demon. It's more complicated, but if you give me some information on this demon, I could try to relate to what the hell it wants.

first thing I would recomend you do is get rid of the notion that the demon has "legal authority over you" and that it "cannot be banished completely."

This was before I started the evocation business, I want to note that my grandfather was examined by an RCC priest for posession (he only found out a long time later, it's complicated, basically it was part of his life for a long time and he just lived with it until his old age when he managed to expel the thing from himself through prayer and saintly living for Jesus Christ). I also want to note that I believe these demons have legal authority from God to do what they want since I meddle in the occult, I just don't want this to affect my family, it's *MY* problem. Therefore I'm attempting to gather information on this demon and assess my options...... this is serious since I believe this thing has been around for a LONG time, and it has something to do with the family for the above noted reasons. My guess is my great-grandfather or somebody else did something they weren't supposed to and passed the "familiar" or whatever you want to call it along to the others. Since then....well.

Amen to that.

@R9999: the fact that all your posts on this subject are dripping with fear isn't going to help your cause. If you keep up the notion that this thing is sent by God to punish your family, you stand all the chances of the proverbial snowflake in Hell for fighting this thing off.

Honestly? If you read the medieval grimoires God gave us express power to deal with these little bastards. I don't mean to sound rude, but get some backbone, arm yourself, and show this annoying little bugger who's REALLY boss. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sport_boxing.gif) (Hint: it's not him)

Let us know how it works out.

I'll try banishing this thing, but I keep thinking if that story in the NT of a guy who tried to exorcise without invoking God's name for the task, plus I do deserve to be punished, I just don't want this thing meddling with my family, and for that I will rough it up be it a demon or whatnot. I am only bound to respect it's judgements against me proper, not my family. It has no legal authority over them (except my children- God can allow generational curses but that's another matter I'll solve later....)

I also want some info on who this demon is. The name is pronounced "DEE-BOC" I don't know what sort of permutation this could give-Deebock,Diboc,Deebauk,etc.

then invoke Gods name if that will give you strength. I am still boggled to why you think this way.Have you been talking to catholic exorist or something? My friend lived in mexico city for a bit with Aztec Socerers and shamans, they were able to cure illness, exorsise demons ect... without even saying the word jesus once.


edit to add: I missed when you said "I want to note that my grandfather was examined by an RCC priest for posession "

Now you do not have to listen to me but what ever supersitious nonsense this preist tells you FORGET ABOUT IT!

meditate and fast for a month, try chanting nam-myoho-renge-kyo over and over while you meditate.
If you feel comfortable start doing the LBRP ritual twice a day. Ask your God to come to you. Most important thing is for you to feel stronger to conquer this pest(because that all it really is).

This post has been edited by distillate: Nov 22 2006, 07:54 PM

i'll fiigure out a solution to this problem...

just remember not to give it more power then it has.

OK. I just don't like the thought of superimposing my will on a son of God, a being above me. I have my place in the current hierarchy and you are supposed to respect (but not fear) devils.

yet you see no problem with Dibock superimposing his will on your life?

He has the legal authority to do so. I was a prick occult dwelling/studying individual (and still am or else I wouldn't be here) and must suffer the consequences of the transgression. If I oppose a spirit which has God's green light to inflict harm on me, then I oppose God (which would make my crime double). All I'm attempting to do at the moment is beg God to free my family from the consequences and if he is gracious enough, me. I'm still attempting to find information on this demon, who is this Dibock? Maybe it's a cognate of Moloch/Milqart or some other mesopotamian, don't know. If you have info on him please send it to me....

This post has been edited by r9999: Nov 24 2006, 05:14 PM

The only thing I can say is u must be open to the fact that the demon in question might be a phantom of ur own creation. this kind of stuff happens more often than u think. If u r willing, I can point u in the direction of certain Exorcisms--but they r in the Necronomicon. And u will have to learn to use magick--but first u must give ur self "room to work". By that I mean the Lesser Banishing Ritual of the Pentagram must be learned and used. Dont worry, if u look over that ritual u will find u r invoking the Arch-Angels Michael, Gabriel, Raphael, and Uriel in it. Check it out.........

laterz

Yes, the LBRP, and the LBHH will not hurt.

Greetings,

I would think that any form of exorcism would solve the problem. Have you considered that this could be some form of astral vampire?

I don't know much on astral vampires. I have read that demons and fallen angels are fundamentally different in nature though. By astral vampire you mean some being that feeds off suffering or whatnot I suppose? The lesser ritual of the pentagram is the one in the Lemegeton right?

the lesser banishing of the pentagram covers the micro, the banishing of the hexagram covers the macro.

Apologies for thread bumping, after it's been so long, but I had to interject something I read recently. Of all things, I read this in a book chronicling the history of the vampire.

The Hebrews had a spirit called a Dybbuk, Gilgul, or "clinging soul". It was a vampiric entity that manifested as a demon, or devil. They would possess people, and the person becoming possessed would typically exhibit the following symptoms: listlessness/tiredness, they would begin to twitch or spasm, and vomit forth a whitish foam. The foam, as I understand, is one of the final stages of possession on the accord of a Dybbuk. The Testament of Patriarchs suggests that they are entities that never truly lived a life that is for all intents and purposes alive. They were supposedly children of Lilith, who had birthed over 1,000 demons and other entities that began to be known as Liln. An alternative to this theory, also suggested by the aforementioned book, is that they were created by sorcery. There was also a supposed third type, though widely dismissed as tomfoolery, known by the Hebrews as the Yezer-Ha-Ra, a vampiric demon that would launch itself on a dutiful worshiper as they were leaving the temple and as they fed, fill their heads with notions of lust, at an incredible pace. Also attested to along with the possession was the ability to prophecy - a sign that the possessed was losing the fight.

Now, to expel the spirit, it was considered necessary to have this done by a Rabbi. What was supposed to be done was, addressing the Dybbuk directly and ascertaining its name, that is to say, its earthly name (knowing full well that the entity knows what you are about and will do everything it can to mislead you). The name could then be used to expel the spirit, in some form of invocation. Some involve a parchment with names of god written in a particular order, inhaling certain herbs, amulets made of wax, iron, or steel hung from the doorway, engraved with the star of david, the name Yahweh, or an outstretched hand... Etc. Unfortunately, what is most available on the subject is prevention... I did find one chant, though, in particular.

"My mother has told me to beware of shabiri, biri, riri, iri, ri" - Shabiri is the Hebrew word for blindness, another symptom associated with Dybbuk possession.

In some folktales, the little finger or pinky toe was suggested to be the place the Dybbuk inhabited, and the Rabbi would only address this part. Another superstition on the subject is that a hole had to be drilled somewhere in the building to allow the Dybbuk, in the shape of a fly or moth, to escape. usually this hole was in the windowsill, and if this was not done, the spirit would just attach itself to another member of the family.

The book I used as reference for this was "Vampires: A Field Guide to the Creatures that Stalk the Night" by Dr. Bob Curran, if anyone's curious.

All the best, I wish to you my friend.

I am really more or less inclined to agree with Eabatu here. In my opinion, your study of the occult and your guilt thereof is causing this demon to manifest from your mind. Now, that does not make it any less real. As above so below. What exists in reality exists in your mind, and what exists in your mind exists in reality. What it does change, is how to get rid of it. Banishings and exorcisms will work, but I fear that it or something else would possibly come back until you let go of the guilt you have over studying techniques of ascending (or descending if that your think lol) the soul. "Heaven is within you." We are all just trying to find that heaven, and I really doubt that your God, whose son made that statement btw, is angry at you for trying to find that heaven which is within you. Once you come to terms with that, I have a feeling that just about any banishing technique which you use will dispell this entity entirely.

"managed to expel the thing from himself through prayer and saintly living for Jesus Christ"

:cough:

ok if it is a real 'dibbuk' then it is a jewish inferior demon and you can check it up sharp by reading it the torah (in jewish - get one of those records of the folks by the wailing wall and play it repeatedly) - it'll go if you put intent into it

This post has been edited by esoterica: Jan 20 2007, 07:57 AM