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New2theOccult
post Jul 19 2006, 01:59 PM
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The title probably is the best one, and, just so you know i'm not an RPG player or anything, but do you think it's possible to 'gain' some kinds of vampiric qualities, for example, i was reading some sites about the 'traditional' vampire streotypes, which include, among other things, glamour and a kind of sexual image (e.g. the typical vampire stereotypes always have the vampire drawing others towards them and being 'irresistiable' to other people), do you think it's possible to attain some of these characteristics (i don't mean 'turning' yourself into a vampire, but gaining some of the qualities associated with them).

The one i'm very interested in looking into is the sexual attraction thing, as i see it as a way of giving you a 'new' lease on life, giving you more confidence (something i definitaly need).

I've heard similar things such as making pacts with vampiric entieis (like incubi or succubi or deities or other supernatural beings, etc) but i was wondering, if it can be done.

Hoping this made some sense.

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post Jul 19 2006, 02:46 PM
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Invoke the powers of Venus. If you want anything, usually the best bet is to go forward with invoking a diety or planetary aspect. Some people invoke demons for the obtainment of things, but these are usually outside ourselves (love of a person, a car, power..so on and so forth.) But, if you're new, I'd say don't mess around with entities that are liable to screw you over. One good thing to note about demons is that they DON'T want to do what you tell them to and if you don't have a strong degree of control over them, will more than likely screw you over. They do have a habit of lying and name calling to get a rise out of you, and if you are not above that, they'll get to you and you'll end up at the shorter end of the stick.

Succubi/incubi, I've had personal experiences with an incubi. I must say, if unbidden they can be quite nasty and bothersome. Usually they want sexual gratification in return for their services and they are more likely to offer information in return. Usually they want the sexual stimulation for themselves and probably don't want to allow that source of energy to be depleted through other people.

Like I said, invoke the intelligence of venus. You won't have to "give" anything or make any pacts, and if it goes awry nothing serious can happen. You are working with the complete and total personification of love and lust. And, truth be told, if you want attraction qualities, there's no greater place than the divine, specially if you're new.

But, if you're looking for a confidence booster, I would say work on your confidence alone first. Using sexual attraction can often be used wrong. If you don't have the balance inside you, you might abuse the power. Also, with invoking the intelligence of venus, people are liable to sense unconditional love emanating from you and just might walk up and talk about their problems. I've had that happen, a lady at my college came up to me out of the blue and began talking to me about her problems and the fact she had been sexually abused as a child. I had been working with the venus aspect earlier to this and began to attract people of this sort needing love. Now, if you want sexual attraction and only sexual attraction, beware that this also includes people you wouldn't normally be seduced by. So, the best bet is to strengthen your own disposition prior to putting an enchantment of unconditional love on yourself.


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post Jul 19 2006, 04:17 PM
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Thanks for the advice, it really helped me understand a few things.

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post Jul 19 2006, 09:57 PM
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QUOTE(New2theOccult @ Jul 19 2006, 06:17 PM) *
Thanks for the advice, it really helped me understand a few things.


The best way is to find a real vampire who has some power and get them to turn you.

If U can not find a vampire to befriend who will help U then call the Hebrew Lilith. The Lilit or Lilitu of the Necronomicon.

She was the first wife of Adam or Adappa before woman was made. She is the mother of all vampires.

Her seal U will find in Master Simon's Necronomicon in the forbidden Urilla text.

I must admit that I know her well. She was the handmaiden of Inanna at one time.

The vampiric powers she can produce in U if U allow her to feed on U.

But be well aware that when dealing with Lilith it is easy to slip into the darkness. U must remain in the light or U risk your soul.


Good Hunting!

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post Aug 7 2006, 09:08 AM
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2 suggestions come to mind: 1) research and learn Glamour magick. 2) Get in touch with Set. Glamour magick can effect your looks, and Set can teach you charisma.

I would be wary of such extreams as invoking Lilith. Sure you can become a vampire, but then again, you'll be a vampire. If all you want is a few of the select traits, there are easier ways to go about it.

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post Aug 26 2006, 08:35 AM
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You also need to think about why you want vampiric qualities. Is it to obtain power over others? Do you want to feel the energy of other people? What do you want to do with the energy?

I´m not trying to put you off, and I´m sorry if I sound really patronising or stupid (I normally do stupid really well). I just think there are sometimes easier ways than vampirism.


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post Sep 6 2006, 05:14 PM
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i agree

i would get into glamour

or working with deities that have these certain qualities

also meditation upon the self is always good for gaining self-confidence and showing inner beauty

for inner beauty i think is your true face

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post Sep 6 2006, 08:30 PM
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QUOTE(Makavelli @ Aug 7 2006, 11:08 AM) *
2 suggestions come to mind: 1) research and learn Glamour magick. 2) Get in touch with Set. Glamour magick can effect your looks, and Set can teach you charisma.

I would be wary of such extreams as invoking Lilith. Sure you can become a vampire, but then again, you'll be a vampire. If all you want is a few of the select traits, there are easier ways to go about it.



As far as a Hollywood vampire goes no spirit can turn you into the living dead. If it is vampiric qualities that you want why then not call upon powerful astral vampires? Nothing lost nothing gained. Do not fear the reaper.


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post Sep 24 2006, 08:49 PM
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There is also the possibility of becoming what some call a "psychic vampire." Meaning that you can take/absorb/steal energy from others. Some people do this accidentally all the time but with magickal training you can do it consciously.

By feeding off a charismatic person you could, for example, take some of his charisma. The drawback of this method is that 1) it's usually temporary, 2) you have to feed on other people, 3) you never know what other "crap" you are absorbing from that person's energy.

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post Nov 22 2006, 06:37 PM
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QUOTE(smasher666 @ Sep 6 2006, 09:30 PM) *
As far as a Hollywood vampire goes no spirit can turn you into the living dead. If it is vampiric qualities that you want why then not call upon powerful astral vampires? Nothing lost nothing gained. Do not fear the reaper.
Peace


It's vampire qualities i'd like to develop, specfically, the typical things of being able to draw attention, etc, the glamourous side of the stereotypical vampire (i know that makes me sound like a RPGer, but it's the only way i can describe it).

Where can i find out more about astral vampires, if you don't mind me asking?.

QUOTE(Siamese @ Sep 24 2006, 09:49 PM) *
There is also the possibility of becoming what some call a "psychic vampire." Meaning that you can take/absorb/steal energy from others. Some people do this accidentally all the time but with magickal training you can do it consciously.

By feeding off a charismatic person you could, for example, take some of his charisma. The drawback of this method is that 1) it's usually temporary, 2) you have to feed on other people, 3) you never know what other "crap" you are absorbing from that person's energy.


Are there any good sites (or do you have any tips) on how to learn this?.

Thanks for any help.

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post Dec 26 2006, 02:21 AM
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QUOTE(New2theOccult @ Nov 22 2006, 04:37 PM) *
It's vampire qualities i'd like to develop, specfically, the typical things of being able to draw attention, etc, the glamourous side of the stereotypical vampire (i know that makes me sound like a RPGer, but it's the only way i can describe it).

Where can i find out more about astral vampires, if you don't mind me asking?.
Are there any good sites (or do you have any tips) on how to learn this?.

Thanks for any help.


My appologies for a late reply...

but I believe that psipog.net has methods for gaining vampiric powers such as psychic draining etc...

As for me, I'm not much of a vampire myself so just ransack the site and see what you find.

-DS

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