http://www.satansrapture.com/nostra2012.htm

well, i am afraid of this, i wanna live my live, well think this will realy happen? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/fie.gif)

I e-mailed NASA asking about it! will post the answer soon!

I'll believe it when I see it. People have been predicting the apocalypse since the beginning of time. The worst thing they usually get is looking like a fool in front of their followers. Sometimes, if they pull something like the Seventh-Day Adventists did back in the 1800's and all gather in a field waiting for the end of the world, they find their stuff stolen by pickpockets having a field day.

People kept saying the world was going to end in 2000. It didn't, we're all here, so i don't understand what all the fuss is about.

Sooner or later the end of our civilization as we know it will happen. There are any number of reasons why - global warming, super volcanic eruption, space rocks and ice balls the size of texas, nuclear war, killer robots, some crazy disease, God's apocoylpes. Really I'd put more weight on killer robots.

All I know if the world ends I hope I die very quickly cause I don't really want to live in a post apocolyptic world or that it happens when I'm already dead.

And actually I saw thing on the tele about a meteor (conviently named Anubis, if I remember correctly) that will cross the Earth's orbit within one million miles and if it hits a certain spot they called a "key hole" Earth's gravity would pull it into a spiralling collision course with earth. The rock would orbit for about 10 years spiralling ever closer then crash into the Earth.

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You know, it might be hellishly miserable, and I certainly don't personally long for an apocalypse of any kind, but not matter what one endures, there is an end to suffering eventually, at least of the worldly kind. Beyond that, then, I think that every big event like that is like taking our evolution and reliving the childhood of our Species, but with some experience under our belts this time. The world is a pretty shaky, rotten place in general, at least the "civilized" world. Perhaps when an apocalypse does happen, we'll come out of it better than we were before. Maybe then we'll be more careful with ourselves and our world.

With all the movies that have been made, and the books, etc., that put an adventurous, romantic spin on post-apocalyptic earth, it's hard to envision what it would really be like to survive such an event, if anyone will indeed survive - and you have to imagine someone will - but it would be a very different world. What could we accomplish if the standards that hold us back now no longer existed? When civilization falls, the balance of Chaos and Order will be upset, and no longer will there be powerful regimes to dictate what people are allowed to be capable of. We'll need to understand and appreciate community, which most of the world now is so saturated in that we take it for granted that there are other people in the world.

I'd bet my money on asteroids, or nuclear war, personally. Maybe there will even be mutant monsters in the wastelands. Or Zombies, I always thought it would be macabrely funny if after we made hundreds of zombie takeover movies, it really happened. Robots, I think, will happen next time, after we recover this time. Maybe it's just the tone of the culture I was raised in, but I've always felt like some kind of apocalypse will happen in my lifetime.

I wouldn't be surprised if the asteroid Nibiru turned out to be true, but you also can't really live your life in fear of it either - it's a pretty unavoidable event if it's going to happen. We'll either manage to do something about it or not.

Oh, i'd also consider alien invasion on my list as well, it is a big universe out there.

peace

all 2012 predicitions are made up by thiose who want to feed off your fear of death and the end - the more thay get you going the better it is for them - and the xtians are right behind them waitin for jeezuz and the culling and the killing and the blood

ok - here's the general idea

The date December 21st, 2012 A.D. (13.0.0.0.0 in the Long Count),
represents an extremely close conjunction of the
Winter Solstice Sun with the crossing point of the Galactic Equator
(Equator of the Milky Way) and the Ecliptic
(path of the Sun), what that ancient Maya recognized as the Sacred
Tree. This is an event that has been coming to
resonance very slowly over thousands and thousands of years. It will
come to resolution at exactly 11:11 am GMT.

1) solstice is (wiki):A solstice is either of the two events of the
year when the sun is at its greatest distance from the equatorial
plane. The name is derived from Latin sol (sun) and sistere (stand
still), because at the solstice, the Sun stands still in declination,
that is, it reaches a maximum or a minimum. The term solstice can also
be used in a wider sense as the date (day) that such a passage
happens. The solstices, together with the equinoxes, are related to
the seasons. In some languages they are considered to start or
separate the seasons; in others they are considered to be center
points (in English, for example, the period around the June solstice
is known as midsummer, and Midsummer's Day is the 24 June — now two or
three days after the solstice).

2) everybody has different data and interpretations of it - the mayan
calendar is perfect for arguing over and vague uneasyness because
it has no beginning date - you can't carbon date rock and there are no
events listed in it to tie it to our dating system and even leap years

3) (http://www.crystallotus.com/TheTransition/005.htm) The Sacred Tree
of the Mayans is the crossing point of the ecliptic with the band of
the Milky Way. - this is the most important concept in all of all the
data

4) the 'band of the milky way' is enourmous - should we use the center
of it, or should we use the galactic equator? what about center of
galactic mass? what about our solar system's moving around within the
galactic arm, which has been proven through observation that we do

5) oh wait - the mayans used eyes, not instruments - to them the milky
center would have been the dust cloud that looks like a road through
the sky from horizon to horizon when viewed from a truly dark place
like Haleakala and Mauna Kea observatories area

5) so when do astronomers say we cross the spot one sees the ecliptic
crosses either the galactic center or the galactic equator or the
'mayan road' of the milky way?

oh, and as the sun is one-half of a degree wide, it will take the
December solstice sun 36 years to precess through the Galactic equator
or whatever - (http://alignment2012.com/whatisGA.htm)

The precise alignment of the solstice point (the precise center-point
of the body of the sun as viewed from earth) with the Galactic equator
was calculated to occur in 1998 (Jean Meeus, Mathematical Astronomy
Morsels, 1997). - (http://alignment2012.com/whatisGA.htm)

Thus, the Galactic Alignment "zone" is 1998 +/- 18 years = 1980 -
2016. This is "era-2012." - (http://alignment2012.com/whatisGA.htm)

if we use the constellation sagittarius, which is smack in the center of the
'mayan road' as the mayans might have used their eyes,
it happened on sept 4, 2006, and that is +/- 18 years =
1986 - 2022. - (http://solar-center.stanford.edu)

so you see there is no exact "date" of the shift, and those that have
been predicted in the past have been proved wrong by time - which is
probably what will happen this solstice as well.

but if it dosen't we need not worry, for, if we are of the light, we
will be protected by the light, and if we are of the dark, then we
will be protected by the dark, and if we are gray, then we
will be protected by both of them

enjoy,

e.

I saw the meteor story too. It's named Apophis, not Anubis. I'm voting that society wipes itself out by making/eating too much fast food and dying of complications from obesity, like heart disease, stroke, and diabetes, myself... Besides, Time'll eventually wipe away any and all traces of our existence anyway. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blablabla.gif)

This post has been edited by Darkmage: Nov 29 2006, 08:24 AM