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V. Grimm
post Nov 28 2006, 09:26 PM
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It all started around a week ago. I was meditating and I had a dream that there was an axe coming down on a bowl, and I knew that bowl full of water was the world, and when I put my shoulder to the giant arm holding the axe, myself emerging from the bowl, I was asked to defend Magic being in this world. I forget what all I said, but it centered around something like "There are still believers here, and I am one of them. Please don't give up". Since then, I've been seeing a symbol very similar to the Hieroglyphic Monad, as I'm sure some of you are familiar with. If not, here's a good example.

(IMG:http://z.about.com/d/altreligion/1/0/T/z/2/skircherdiagram.jpg)

Remove the semicircles at the bottom, shorten the cross, and take out the symbol for Helios, instead putting the Lunar Crescent at the top of the cross, and that's what I've been seeing. Everywhere. It's shown up in shadows on my wall, it showed up on my left forearm as a tattoo I didn't remember for approximately five minutes. I took a picture, and it turned up as having nothing there. I saw it on my own face when I went to look in the mirror, and it was there for about three seconds. I've been seeing it in shadows cast across my room while reading, and in random places right in front of me. I'm not sure what to think, I can't find a match for this symbol anywhere. I've done some sigil work, but this has never been one of them. And it's really freaking me out. I want to know what this symbol is, and where it came from.

One thought I had was that it might be Phoenician, but it's not. In fact, I have literally no idea what this symbol is. Taking it apart from the Hieroglyphic Monad standpoint, it should be the cross, representing the four primal elements, and the Lunar Crescent, giving credence to the moon's power over these elements as a celestial body. But that doesn't make a whole lot of sense for me, as a person, and I'm completely confused.

Please, if you have a thought, no matter how simple, tell me. This issue is driving me insane.


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post Nov 28 2006, 09:37 PM
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Sounds like the astrological glyph for Neptune... given the nature of the planet involving mysticism, magic, and disillusion it seems to fit well with you "being asked to defend magic in this world". I would also recommend you compare the symbol you saw with those in the Dictionary of Occult, Hermetic, and Alchemical Sigils (pdf. version available online...check bit torrents). Good luck.

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post Nov 28 2006, 09:49 PM
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The line in Neptune's symbol extends too far, and I'll take a look at that book in a minute or two. I actually have a copy of it that I'd forgotten about.


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post Nov 29 2006, 05:51 AM
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So the closest things in that book that I have found would be as follows, quoting verbatim.

Fortuna Major - Sigil for one of the sixteen geomantic figures. Fortuna is linked by AGRIPPA 1531 with the element Earth, the 'planet' Sun, and the Zodiacal sign Aquarius.

Mercury - Alchemical - Dee - 1564

Mercury - Astrological - Campanus - 15c

Quicksilver - Alchemical - Worlidge 1671

None of those make any sense at all for me. I've long thought that I'm more of a moon person than I am a sun person, and I'm an Aries. Nor have I ever thought that I have much in common with the element or the planet mercury.
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Anybody have any thoughts?


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o - ) the monad would then be isis, io, astart, ishtar, ashenda, gaia, earth - the female godform archtype and complex - magic is in her realm for sure - the bowl of water, well, the water at least, is dynamic and changable, just like the earth - the axe, well that would of course be the 'return' of the anunaki prince leading the pack of overseers - sounds to me like you've had a prophetic vision, my dear - well then, embrace the monad and protect the earth from the ravaging that is coming as you have been shown - and you will not be alone in your task, not by a long shot

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post Nov 29 2006, 01:50 PM
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Well, that's one theory, and it's a pretty sound one. I'm not so sure it's just that, though. Something seems off about it, and I'm not sure what. At least now I have some input.

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QUOTE(Isaiah @ Nov 29 2006, 06:51 AM) *
Nor have I ever thought that I have much in common with the element or the planet mercury.
Sigh.


Well 3 of the 4 you list are associated to Mercury (quicksilver is mercury). Mercury is, of course, the apparent fastest of the planets and least stable metal resulting in associations to transformation, movement, and communication.

I'd say when experiencing such a vision, your own natal associations to the planet and metal are irrelevant. Makes sense that a message would be delivered to you through Mercury("the messenger" in Mediterranean mythology) and perhaps is a sign of your own alchemical/spiritual transformation.

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post Nov 29 2006, 08:26 PM
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Greetings Isaiah,

Looking at Dr. John Dee's description of the Heiroglyphic Monad and your description of the Glyph, or Sigil you have been seeing, I had a thought.

The Cross itself, as has been stated, can symbolize the Four Cardinal Directions, the Four Elements, but, they can also symbolize the joining at the place that two separate and opposite or opposing forces such as Masculine and Feminine Dualities conjoin.

It could be then that the Crescent Symbolizing Luna is at the Vertical top of this Cross symbolizing the Ascension of the Feminine Mysteries or the Powers of Hidden Unconscious Energies coming to Light at a time when one is Balanced in the opposing forces of Masculine Femine in their Mental Construct, or Light and Dark.

The Circle could indicate that the time of Conjoining the Feminine Forces with the Masculine Forces is at hand for the inhabitants of the Globe, and the various Planetary Signs may denote a Time Line for Astrological Charting of this occurance.

I am curious did it have a Circle with the Central Point in its Midst at the Top of the SIgil signifying that it is a Solar Oriented Sigil, if so it may not be far off from many of the Mediteranean Myths concerning the Creation of the World and also of its ultimate return to its Natural state of Unity where the Annanaki or Nephlim (beings fallen from the sky) also referenced in the Apocryhal writing called The Book of Enoch.

It could also be a personal Sigil for your use to Meditate upon similar to a Mandala for the bringing to Light the Hidden things of your Unconsious mind to your waking state.

It is very interesting. Good luck at its interpretation.

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post Nov 29 2006, 09:27 PM
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Hello, and thank you for your input. But there was no circle, instead only a cross and the lunar crescent. I have done some more meditation into the matter and it's all still quite foggy but some of the things inside of it from a representational standpoint lead me to believe it's a message of sorts, sent to me by an inquiring mind. What I am confused about, however, is some of the symbolism contained therein.

Firstly, the thing that bothers me most, is that I at once knew that the bowl atop the pillar, barely standing out on its own, was the world and the liquid inside was the magic in the world. Following that is the fact that I, a person of magical awareness, was watching through the looking glass so to speak through the water which no one around me noticed. I take this as a passing nod to the fact that I am a magician, which is all well and good. The part that bothers me most, however, about that is that I passed through the water, out of the bowl, and stopped the arm before it collided with it, and I was at once larger than and smaller than the bowl. Next, was that after deliberating for some time over the vision, it appeared that the disembodied arm, a detail I'd forgotten, was constructed of jade, and didn't move at the elbow. So it was an effigy of sorts, perhaps a construct or golem. But at once I am interested in the material it was constructed with. It felt as if it shunned magic entirely, like it was anti-magic. I realize that sounds lame and cliche, but it's a sad truth. Jade, to me, has never felt that way out of the lands of the dead, which I have visited only thrice. The shades there owned jade that was devoid of magic, bereft of spiritual vibration, and it attracted spirits. I have never seen another naturally occurring stone do this.

The next thing that bothered me was the peculiar lettering on the axe, as it both looked Proto-Sinaitic and Proto-Canaanite, but was neither. I've done much research since, and it hasn't turned up as a verifiable language. One thing I do remember about it, though, is that it had an E-like symbol that was a left bracket (<) with a horizontal strike through it. If anyone knows anything about this, please let me know. And lastly, the part I'd all but forgotten is that the voice I heard was a woman's, and it oscillated in the mid-frequencies while staying completely balanced throughout treble and bass. It had no abnormalities signifying third-party editing or naturally occurring warble. This is an anomaly, and I would know, given that I've been messing with sounds for the better part of 5 years now.

The whole thing is just weird.

If anyone has any insight into the matter, please do tell me.


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post Nov 30 2006, 12:05 AM
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[Greetings Isiah,

Personally I think this has Hermes name written all over it. It looks to me like an adaptation of the Mercury symbol. Cool!

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post Dec 12 2006, 11:54 PM
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I update this one last time, as I both know and understand nothing very well...

The symbol has called to me once more, and in the state of mind that I am in, I became aware of a gate, but not a gate, a man but not a man, all things but not; called Pan. The symbol is his calling card, as well as a passing nod to the fact that I have always considered myself a child of the moon, Luna-Touched, as it were. My soul half-belongs to me, just as all things half-exist, and half-do not. I think now that I understand more than I was meant to, but it's alright because I was assumed to have learned things that do not belong to me, already. The moon is my mother, and Pan is my father. I understand the origin and the mysteries now.

I stepped into the gate, and eyes opened up before me, to the left. The mouth consumed my shield and my quiver, and swallowed me into the pit. In the pit, the mouth spoke and told me to walk through the wasteland to the abandoned place that I called home. I was in a desert, clay-brown, each step kicking up dust as a mammoth beast would. I stepped once, twice, and then nine times, and I was in a forest. The forest tried to devour me, the plant life hungry for what I was composed of. This was the wasteland, an overwhelming visage of green and undergrowth. I stepped nine times again, sixteen worlds traveling below me, into a burning place with no flames. It was as if this place, this hillside, was a place I had been to, but it reminded me of nowhere I had been in this life. I held up my hand and at once I was transported from the base of the hill to the front door. The door crumbled and bled as I pushed it in. Inside, there were three burned, charred, decaying bodies. One playing poker, one hanging from the windowsill, another hanging by a noose from the immediate left to the door. This was the cottage I spent my life in, without knowing it. I learned many things, and I was able to speak to the Horned God through the mirror. He answered questions, but stole the memories. A fair trade. He told me of the sacrifice, and told me if I did not make it, I would die in the cottage. I sacrificed an animal that happened through the door, and he filled the wound with beast's blood. It healed immediately. Soon after, he gave me a book, and inside the book were brief notes on my life from hindsight, looking forward, and in the middle. In the very back was a message of the apocalypse, and I was able to ask it questions. The all-knowing number was also inside the book, and it answered questions, for it knew all. I kept the book, stepped out of the gate, and spoke the word of Unmaking to it, collapsing it into chaff and ash.

I'm lucid right now, but I may come down in a while. I met many things inside the gate, one of which being the Endless One, a being composed of a serpent, twelve ravens, a guinea pig, a ferret, and a fox... And an invisible wolf, and he stabbed me with a silver, serpentine kris dagger. The dagger I ended up using to perform a sacrifice inside the gate, and now I think something came back with me. I'm not sure, but I feel... 150%. I feel whole. My memory is sharper, numbers stand out to me, I remember something called the all-knowing number, and I wrote it on my wall so I could ask questions of it. It's gone now. There is a reassuring warmth slithering around my spine, and the cloak of the Endless One is very warm, like I had just worn it, though I know it sat on the ground in the cold for centuries.

I am staggered. Many levels compose the man, and the man has the blood of the beast. The beast consumes the blood, the man consumes the beast.

No, I did not ingest any hallucinogens, nor drugs of any kind.


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post Dec 13 2006, 12:52 AM
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Greetings,

Sounds like you have connected with Nebo. Pan corresponds to Hermes and Mercury.

All Gods have a Gate that connects man to thier power.

Do not doubt the validity of your experiance.

If you do not mind I will explore this symbol and post my findings.

Zi DIngir Nebo Kanpa!

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post Dec 13 2006, 02:21 AM
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Not at all, feel free. I'm simply... Different now, both in my way of thinking and in my interface with the world.


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when one does think of mercury, bare this in mind, mercury being the 'messenger' is the planet or "gate" to the sun, or the "i am" within you and mercury is what receives all of that energy and allows and transmits only that which it chooses to express and route to where it feels it appropriate. definitely an awakening of a time when perhaps you are to begin teaching, sharing or expressing that which only you can experience and know.

those were my thoughts after reading your postings.

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In dreams it is common to have our own symbols and our own songs. Very common for shaman and for the mystic as well.
Another thought was just because the symbol is differant does not mean its not what you think or feel would even be better. It's possible it was differant in a older (or newer age) or it could be a new symbol that is going to be uncovered. Between 2007 and 2012 we will find proof that atlantis existed maybe it will show up in text than.
If your an experianced dreamer ask someone in your dream what it means. find a guru or master or even a lay person from the dream. Its a symbol thats been on you but is it on your physical self or on your spirit self? You said that you have seen it many times but only mention once about the original scenario you were in. What are some other occurances that happened while you wore this symbol?

Last but not least you can go into the "twilight" and ask your higher self the true meaning. i feel that you do already know in some shape or form. Only because you could explain in depth what it looked like. Most dreamers are yet to be experianced enough to explain that kind of detail. That means its very important. also Just because a certain symbol has nothing to do with you does not mean it is not incorporated some how. Even though you may be a moon person the sun is important for energy and life to all of us. You may have no idea why mercury is of interest but a past life knows exactly why you would.


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post Dec 16 2006, 02:46 AM
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The symbol could be Mercury and was meant to catch your attention. I've had a similar experience. I too consider myself a child of the moon, I am a Cancerian. However, I was born on the Summer Solstice. I wax and wane between bright hope and delving into deep mystery.

The essay that helped me figure out so much about my alchemical fascination and the symbols that showed up everywhere in my dreams and waking visions was THE ALCHEMY IN SPIRITUAL PROGRESS by Nanci Shanderá, Ph.D.

According to the essay: (Nanci Shanderá, Ph.D. is a Mystery School teacher and spiritual counselor-dreamworker at EarthSpirit Center in Eagle Rock, California. This article is excerpted from her book in progress: Digging for Gold: the Alchemical Art of Discovering the Soul's Majesty

http://faculty.mdc.edu/jmcnair/Joe5pages/THE%20ALCHEMY.htm

This essay discusses the seven stages of Alchemical spiritual evolution. In the final stage Shandera writes:

"Wholeness is inexorably linked to holiness and, interestingly, the word "holy" has its roots in "hale," which means sound, whole, and happy. So many of us have been taught that holiness is a distant, mysterious, and unreachable state reserved those in the higher echelons of organized religion. I say phooey to that because being holy is a highly creative way of being that demonstrates that which cannot be politicized, organized, or exclusivized. In the alchemical model of spiritual transformation, a holy person is one who has gone through all the lower stages: calcination (burning out the ego's control), dissolution (feeling and taking ownership of the emotions), separation (deciding what's important) - many times! - and has then moved into numerous explorations of the stage of conjunction to discover where one's heart is. After this basic work is solidly integrated, we are free to expand our determination to become whole through the stages of Putrefaction-Fermentation (where we experience wrestling matches with our inner demons), Distillation (where we become far more interested in the greater good than merely in our own, and finally Coagulation, which is where true wholeness/holiness is revealed."

Through fire (challenges) the soul is purified (quicksilver or quicksilver mercury).

Everyone has offered good advice and Business Voodoo has hit on something.

QUOTE(business voodoo @ Dec 14 2006, 02:45 PM) *
when one does think of mercury, bare this in mind, mercury being the 'messenger' is the planet or "gate" to the sun, or the "i am" within you and mercury is what receives all of that energy and allows and transmits only that which it chooses to express and route to where it feels it appropriate. definitely an awakening of a time when perhaps you are to begin teaching, sharing or expressing that which only you can experience and know.


And once I discoverd that I was going through this process of refinement, not perfection, but change and empowerment I began a personal mantra, "I am mercury, I am qicksilver, essence am I."

Magick has been defined as many things. For me, it is a way of life. It is the mystery of Divinity surrounding us and within us. It is the paradox of being the universe and being a small part of it. The way to strengthen the conccept of magick in our world's paradigm, is to teach it. And by teaching it, it is preserved.

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QUOTE(business voodoo @ Dec 14 2006, 02:45 PM) *
when one does think of mercury, bare this in mind, mercury being the 'messenger' is the planet or "gate" to the sun, or the "i am" within you and mercury is what receives all of that energy and allows and transmits only that which it chooses to express and route to where it feels it appropriate. definitely an awakening of a time when perhaps you are to begin teaching, sharing or expressing that which only you can experience and know.


The sun has always spurned me. I tried as a child to comprehend it and instead of studying its symbolism, I stared. I now have a permanent marking in my field of vision in the form of corneal scarring. Of course, this is my fault. But I have grown apart from it since. Too bright, hard to concentrate when things are too bright. On the awakening, perhaps correct. I have begun to go through a deeper learning, and I love to teach, help and foster growth. But not in a conventional sense. I am here to keep magic alive, I know this to be fact. I have been called Overseer recently by a group of spirits I've begun to understand are the trio representation of my life, one for each aspect: Beginning, Middle, and Last. I understand they are called "Incarna". I don't know how I understand this, but it feels right. In short: I agree. I am fit to teach, but I need to learn more. We always learn, but I need to know enough to be confident. Though I suppose confidence is a wholly internal concept. More meditation is required. Very interesting name, by the way.


QUOTE(Enochian @ Dec 15 2006, 08:53 AM) *
Another thought was just because the symbol is differant does not mean its not what you think or feel would even be better. It's possible it was differant in a older (or newer age) or it could be a new symbol that is going to be uncovered. Between 2007 and 2012 we will find proof that atlantis existed maybe it will show up in text than.
If your an experianced dreamer ask someone in your dream what it means. find a guru or master or even a lay person from the dream. Its a symbol thats been on you but is it on your physical self or on your spirit self? You said that you have seen it many times but only mention once about the original scenario you were in. What are some other occurances that happened while you wore this symbol?

Last but not least you can go into the "twilight" and ask your higher self the true meaning. i feel that you do already know in some shape or form. Only because you could explain in depth what it looked like. Most dreamers are yet to be experianced enough to explain that kind of detail. That means its very important. also Just because a certain symbol has nothing to do with you does not mean it is not incorporated some how. Even though you may be a moon person the sun is important for energy and life to all of us. You may have no idea why mercury is of interest but a past life knows exactly why you would.


I feel that it does indeed represent Luna in her most primal form, and her worshiper beneath, myself, spread arms in the form of the cross; in itself a nod to the four primal elements. I feel that it represents the spirits/powers that be acknowledging that I am who I've thought I am for ages. When I drew it on my arm with a pen, I felt like I was on fire. I felt like I had just connected with something so old, so familiar, that it could be my origin as a being. I don't know, I sound so damn crazy when I talk about it. I felt, not heard, felt a voice telling me to pray to Luna, and it went something like this: "Luna, my Goddess, awaken in me that which I have long forgotten. Come back to me, my mother, my angel, my lover. You are the wind beneath my wings and the earth beneath my paws. Enlighten me as you used to, and let me be as a knight to you." and I ended it by crossing myself with the symbol. I've felt incredibly alive since then, like I woke from a dream.

And I can't seem to find a higher self anywhere, I've never really been able to find anything but shades of myself. Most of those I either banish or, for lack of a better term, eat.

QUOTE(Masery @ Dec 16 2006, 12:46 AM) *
The symbol could be Mercury and was meant to catch your attention. I've had a similar experience. I too consider myself a child of the moon, I am a Cancerian. However, I was born on the Summer Solstice. I wax and wane between bright hope and delving into deep mystery.

Through fire (challenges) the soul is purified (quicksilver or quicksilver mercury).

And once I discoverd that I was going through this process of refinement, not perfection, but change and empowerment I began a personal mantra, "I am mercury, I am qicksilver, essence am I."

Magick has been defined as many things. For me, it is a way of life. It is the mystery of Divinity surrounding us and within us. It is the paradox of being the universe and being a small part of it. The way to strengthen the conccept of magick in our world's paradigm, is to teach it. And by teaching it, it is preserved.


Well I'm an Aries, and I wasn't born on any special day, that I remember. I don't think the symbol was Mercury, the design is too different. It doesn't feel the same, either. The messenger aspect makes sense, but as I stated before, I don't think that was the case. It feels like a key, something I have to inscribe to open a door. Not sure to what. And as for my mantra, it's usually centered around death. I have legally died three times in my short life thus far. Once in the crib, once as a 14 year old, and another as an 18 year old. The third time was due to sleep apnia, which I hear is common, but my friend who was staying over felt me get cold and called the ambulance. The second time, I had been suffocated by ... Well, the doctors couldn't figure out what, and I have no idea. The first time was, you guessed it, crib death. I consider myself blessed. Not lucky, though. That seems like a slap in the face to the things that kept me alive. Death is just so familiar to me, is it any surprise I'm a necromancer by and large? Anyways, my elements have always been darkness and quiet. I consider them my focus. So to me, magic is intrinsically linked with the dark, and candles, and burning, and the sweet smell of decay... And things of that nature.

Alchemy really isn't my forte, and trying to link the symbol to alchemy just makes me agitated. I found one symbol that exactly matches it, and it's a symbol for Quicksilver, which we all know is Mercury. But that just... Feels wrong. Completely false.


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post Dec 16 2006, 03:51 AM
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When I said magick to me is a way of life, I meant it is part of my daily actions since I strive to consciously create my reality by being aware of my choices and the energy and spirits around me.

When you do discover the answer that suites you concerning your symbol visions, share it here. We want to know.


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Well I figured that's what you meant, and I don't think I'll crack this mystery overnight. It might take a long time.

But when I find out, you'll find out.


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post Dec 31 2006, 02:58 PM
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I'd thought about it but it never clicked. In alchemical relations, taking it apart would yield the primal cross, representing the four elements found in nature, and a lunar crescent, representing the moon, or mercury. Perhaps the combination of antimony and iron. But it could be a key step in something, I suppose. Seems fractured if you take it apart, but putting it together yields the commonly found symbol for quicksilver, another element commonly represented as a key factor in the Great Work.

I'd forgotten the metaphorical implications of this: Mercury being a key element, means that the symbol I'm seeing could be representational of some order, lodge, or fringe belief; OR, it could represent the pure form of Mercury, poisonous, yet a fluid element that's widely used for thousands of alchemical relations. All confusing, and I've beaten around the bush. I guess it all just clicked. And that would explain the other symbol I've been seeing lately during concentration. I think, somehow, an alchemical process is being sent to me. I'm going to start writing this all down.

But I think I'm on the verge of the answer I need. And I'm posting it here, now, because I said I would.


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post Dec 31 2006, 04:07 PM
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QUOTE(Isaiah @ Dec 31 2006, 12:58 PM) *
I'd thought about it but it never clicked. In alchemical relations, taking it apart would yield the primal cross, representing the four elements found in nature, and a lunar crescent, representing the moon, or mercury. Perhaps the combination of antimony and iron. But it could be a key step in something, I suppose. Seems fractured if you take it apart, but putting it together yields the commonly found symbol for quicksilver, another element commonly represented as a key factor in the Great Work.

I'd forgotten the metaphorical implications of this: Mercury being a key element, means that the symbol I'm seeing could be representational of some order, lodge, or fringe belief; OR, it could represent the pure form of Mercury, poisonous, yet a fluid element that's widely used for thousands of alchemical relations. All confusing, and I've beaten around the bush. I guess it all just clicked. And that would explain the other symbol I've been seeing lately during concentration. I think, somehow, an alchemical process is being sent to me. I'm going to start writing this all down.

But I think I'm on the verge of the answer I need. And I'm posting it here, now, because I said I would.


Interesting update. I do enjoy puzzles though sometimes I get upset and yell at my guides to just tell me what they mean. Then in hindsight I understand I wouldn't have grasped all of the intricate details or retained the knowledge if I hadn't figured it out on my own.

What is the other symbol you have been seeing?


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post Dec 31 2006, 04:23 PM
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The representational symbol for Helios, the circle with a dot at the epicenter, except it has two crescents, on the left and right of it, both facing away.


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QUOTE(Isaiah @ Dec 31 2006, 02:23 PM) *
The representational symbol for Helios, the circle with a dot at the epicenter, except it has two crescents, on the left and right of it, both facing away.


“Note that an eclipse of the Sun can occur only at New Moon, while an eclipse of the Moon can occur only at Full Moon. In any calendar year there are 2 to 5 eclipses of each kind (solar and lunar, including penumbral). However, there cannot be any more that 7 eclipses in any one year (4 solar and 3 lunar, or 5 solar and 2 lunar).” Fred Espenak http://sunearth.gsfc.nasa.gov/eclipse/phase/phasecat.html

In the Goddess symbol with the basic circle flanked by crescents, the circle is the full or new moon. Could it be then, if you are seeing a solar symbol in the middle that it represents an eclipse of some type? Solar or lunar, physical or spiritual.

Any incantations or ritual's I've performed during an eclipse have felt more intense and amplified.

I asked a friend of mine about this and he also added, "Hiding things from others, revealing that which is hidden, opening a portal to the otherworld."

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Whoah, never thought of that. Sweet. I'll do some more introspection relating to the matter.

Somehow this all seems like it's about ready to fall into place, to click. Can't put my finger on it though.

Thanks for the input. My typing is ass right now because I can't feel my hands.


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In our dreams, both waking and asleep, the symbols and images that appear represent archetypes of our higher consciousness - your genius or higher self may be trying to communicate something or you may be in contact with an ascended master.

The lunar crescent above a cross immediately resonates with the image of malkuth divided into four quarters with yesod as the moon above to me. The path between malkuth and yesod is ruled by saturn, the description of corpses and a book containing your previous deeds seems fitting with saturn - need I mention that a 'gate' as you convey is a common image for those travelling between the sephira.

From your writings here it's patent you've invested much thought into what this could be about, and that alone will lead you to an answer - as most may merely make note of Strange Occurrences and look no further into them!

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I've been doing a lot of thinking about what you said, trying to come up with something to say but it all just seems trite...

For one, I'm not familiar with the terminology you're using. Could you define malkuth, yesod, and sephira? Thank you very much for your time.

I feel that you may be right, however I believe that the solution to this may be twofold. The encrypted message, I think, holds sway over much of my existence. Time will tell.

Peace to you.


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