Hi,

If this is not the correct area for this post, I apologize.

I am very interested in the creation of Servitors and Thought Forms and would like to hear others' views.

I sat, several days ago, only with the intention of organising the creating of a Servitor. I daydreamed if you like, of what it would be like and capable of and then did no more. Nothing was written down, no materials gathered at all.

However, the thoughts which I envisaged this creation being capable of appear to be manifesting themselves.

Is this possible? Or just 'co-incidence'?

Thanks,

LitzB

It's entirely possible you created what you needed to create and now it's manifesting in your life. Oftentimes, I have found just having the intention is enough. Concentrating on it for a little while, then forgetting about it, releases it to the Universe so it can do its thing. Formal ritual isn't always required, in fact, sometimes it gets in the way.

As for how much or how little power you want to put into a thoughtform, that really depends on what you're trying to do with it. For example: winning the jackpot in Vegas is (usually) going to take more energy than finding a dropped fiver in the street. It's all up to you.

That was very, very helpful.

It wasn't a 'greedy' thoughtform, so I guess you are probably right in as much as the thought was enough to set things sail.

Thank you.

This is better suited to chaos magick. Moving it over there. It should get a little more traffic there as well.

Ok, thanks.

I've posted it over in Chaos.

Thanks,

I observed several things with servitors.Regardless of the goal,servitor with more energy will do it faster and if your goal is something that is big,you need large amounts of energy in the servitor for him to succeed in his task.Servitors with less energy will fail in big tasks,or they will do it but only after a long time.The more energy you can give the better,blood and semen (vaginal fluids for females) make very powerful servitors,especially if programmed to feed on their own to increase their power even more.I keep such servitors for good,there is no point in destroying them since they only gain power as time passes and with tasks performed.Some can grow so powerful they are capable of some extraordinary tasks.I always use ritual to create and summon them,it makes their character fixed and easier to control.It is best to give them domains of influence like money/knowledge/destruction and the like.To have a multipurpose servitor would require extensive amounts of energy invested in them.

I have just been a bit concerned about the creation of Servitors. I have read extensively (as much as I can find), on the subject and there seems to be mixed feelings. Some say that you should create with the intention of only allowing their existence for a short period of time, others say, as you did, that they grow in strength and therefore are more effective if left to develop.

This was why I started off with thought forms - and I have to say I am very impressed so far!

Thanks for your reply.

LitzB

Well LitzB, a servitor really isn't any different then a thought-form in essense . . only in degree.
A servitor is a thought-form, with a greater potential (image,name,characteristics...). A thoughtform is any thought (depending on complexity) that can generate on "higher" planes.
Thought-forms just tend to disapate quickly enough on those "other" planes that their rarely/barely effective . . or our physical one by default. They can have an affect, but they just rarely/barely do.
The real difference is the amount of energy thats put into them, the more they have, the more they can do (and last).
Certainly effective thought-forms can be made (its happening more then you know, like advertising or positive-thinking), and the way you did it is a fine initial/exploritory/experimental approach.

Do that same thing for a few hours - for a few days . . . throw in a name/symbol/style and you will eventually get a servitor
it may take a couple creative approaches, but eventually one/something/it will coalesce and congele. (a bit of extra raised energy helps to beginning the condensation process)

all the other stuff (lifespans, intents, personalities) are just things that many others have found useful (or safe).

This post has been edited by palindroem: Dec 21 2006, 08:32 PM

Greetings,

Enkidu, I found your mention of not 'destroying' your servitors quite interesting. I haven't worked with a created servitor in many years, as my current path provides other methods.But when creating servitors was a part of my arsenal I always followed the edict of destroying it before it became large enough to cause trouble for you. I realize now that the power level of the magcikian will greatly affect this factor, but i was wondering, have you had to deal with any unruly creations?
I've never had a servitor exist longer than the length of it's task, so I haven't had the experience, if it occurs at all.lol
Thanks,
Peace.

No I didnt have problems with them since I programmed them to be free when they complete assigned task but to come at my calling.They are also programmed for destruction if I use certain ritual and word of command,if they cause me trouble,so I know that is something that keeps them from trying to influence me in any way.I can destroy them if I want to and that certainly keeps them away.However none of them ever tried anything.They usually attack their creators wanting more energy but mine are created to feed on their own.

Greetings,

Thanks for the info. I'll really have to take that method into consideration next time i create a servitor. Thanks again.
Peace.