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post Dec 22 2006, 10:45 PM
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Hi. My girlfriend who is naturally sensitive to the presence of apparitions and ghosts has as of yet not been able to unlock her full potential or rather abilities that have been bestowed on her. She craves proper accurate guiding that of which I cannot fully provide for her. Her senses are present when she is near a place where there is likely to find such an apparition like nursing homes or burnt down houses, though not limited to these specific areas. Gradually along the course of her life, encountering moments where she would sense one have decreased substantially. She wishes to attain this ability once more and amplify it to her full extent and potential. Her only obstacles are a vague understanding of these entities and fear of them in result of that. Anyone have any advice as to how she can go about introducing herself to it again and increasing her own understanding and perspective on the subject. Thank you.

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post Dec 24 2006, 12:18 PM
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Any information or advice is greatly appreciated. Thankss

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post Dec 24 2006, 01:42 PM
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Any information or advice is greatly appreciated. Thankss


Check out some of the lessons in the learning center, from the main board it's the neophytes hall.

Maximizing your senses is rarely the question, unless you were born inhibited neurologically. Everyone's senses are fully active, otherwise, the problem is learning to distinguish what the different senses are telling us, and hearing them over the din of the mental chatter.

Take a look, even have her read up.

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post Dec 27 2006, 06:13 PM
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Thats not entirely accurate. The use of your Ajna chakra or 6th chakra plays a huge roll in seeing the spirits that reside here still. active chakra studies and use, and even what is eaten can affect these sensitive people. Meditation and learning about the third eye is where i would begin. From there dreaming can and will re awaken these senses. Much of this site and work that is done here could be well used im sure. Any scrying, crystal work, or even yoga can help.


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post Dec 27 2006, 08:21 PM
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That is one particular and rather dated tradition of thought. Farbeit for me to suggest that the vedics had an incomplete understanding of the process, but as extension of the Universal Consciousness, we are born naturally capable of perceiving every layer of reality.

It is not therefore necessary to assume a point of view from which one must assume that those senses are something that we acquire through any practice, and in fact I have found that in most individuals who believe that these senses must be attained in some manner, as though they did not already posses them, and who approach that practice, develop far slower than those who take the point of view that they need only 'clear the air' between their Center and their Senses.

Should we endeavor to develop discipline, for instance, by working with our root and sacral chakras, or should we take up some practice in life which furthers the development of proper discipline? Working with the chakras directly is the work of a more advanced practitioner, in my humble opinion. For the beginner, or anyone wishing to develop their chakras in a meaningful way, I believe it is more beneficial to take up a practice or number of practices, which naturally stimulate the chakras by their very nature.

Also, if we open and strengthen the Ajna chakra without actually developing any of the other chakras, or clearing out the psychological blockages associated with them, then we achieve only a slightly heightened intuition which still must be filtered through the other layers of consciousness. In effect, the work is rendered less useful.

Too often sensitive individuals seek to immediately begin using magick, scrying, and attempting dream techniques. However, these practices only develop the psychic facilities by proxy, not directly. Meditation, certainly, but meditation is about exactly what I described, learning to quiet and order the psyche in order that we may hear clearly the inner voice, I.E., the psychic senses.

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post Dec 28 2006, 03:49 PM
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I apologize you are correct. I had assumed that the subject was something we all already know of. I never approach from a need to learn point always as the need to reveal.
A person that narurally has this ability (your right we all do) already knows its real. There is no schooling, or religion or fear that needs whiped clean. But a person that is a natural may also know nothing of chakra work and that was my bad.

Chakra study can and will bring about the ability and it will re awaken a giftedperson (only meaning that they were born with and had no need to awaken the ability) The study of all chakra is important but the ajna is key to what you are searching for. Being well rounded in this work is the only REAL way for it to work properly. Although there are differing numbers of chakra that beliefs have. seven is the norm. The others that are below and above us are not of impotance as a beginner. Add them as you learn.

Meditation is far more than just hearing the inner voice. There are types of meditations and some guide us in our daily life as well, not just when sitting in the lotus in meditation. stalking, and single pointed thinking are very affective.

No working with the chakra directly in this day and age is the only viable way. You cannot have a hobby or affective practice to work all 12 chakra its not feasible unless you are a monk in the mountains. Directly and slowly and with skill are the way to go.
But anyways this if far from the point. The point is we are trying to help HER to see ghosties again. And i doubt very much she will change her entire life (as we would) just to see them again. she needs a good explanation as to why this has happened and a good meditation and someone that sees ghosts all the time i think will do the job.
Jeash i did not know i had to write a book just to tell someone to work with there chakra. Most intelligent humans can see what was written and study and learn for themselves.

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Meditation is far more than just hearing the inner voice. There are types of meditations and some guide us in our daily life as well, not just when sitting in the lotus in meditation. stalking, and single pointed thinking are very affective.


All meditation serves to further alignment with the inner voice, which is not an inner monologue, but an instinctive and fluid knowing. Stalking and Single Pointedness both serve to further this end, so differentiating between them is sort of moot.

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No working with the chakra directly in this day and age is the only viable way. You cannot have a hobby or affective practice to work all 12 chakra its not feasible unless you are a monk in the mountains. Directly and slowly and with skill are the way to go.


While it is not my intention to offend, this is not true. Working directly with the chakras is only possible -if- you are a monk hermited away in the mountains. For the average person, working directly with chakras will unbalance your system, especially if you are not under the proper guidance of a qualified teacher. You will most certainly attain results, but the interim may leave you worse off than you were to begin with, and usually the individual themselves can hardly tell anything is wrong. I was told to work with my chakras when I was just beginning to actively hone my subtle senses, by someone who didn't realize what he was telling me to do. As a result of my routine, I went through varying phases of depression, anxiety, confusion, disillusionment, psychosis, and obsession. It happened because I was over stimulating and unbalancing my chakras without taking on any outside practices which would reinforce and naturally support the changes occurring to my system. To tell anyone to take up direct work with their energy system is irresponsible, and one must consider that while you and I, as dedicated occultists, as you say can and have adjusted our lifestyles, it is that adjustment that has rendered balance, not the chakra work.

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But anyways this if far from the point. The point is we are trying to help HER to see ghosties again. And i doubt very much she will change her entire life (as we would) just to see them again. she needs a good explanation as to why this has happened and a good meditation and someone that sees ghosts all the time i think will do the job.
Jeash i did not know i had to write a book just to tell someone to work with there chakra. Most intelligent humans can see what was written and study and learn for themselves.


As intelligent humans, it is our responsibility to fully inform those new to such a world, from a point of view of experience, rather than leave them to fend for themselves off of one remark that may very well lead them to jump to conclusions. It would be different if you had cited a good book which covers not only direct chakra work, but the daily lifestyle changes that will help to balance out the changes taking place. Just thinking about your chakra will stimulate it. Overstimulating the ajna chakra without making any sort of lifestyle change will result in psychosis of some form, usually related to the natural aptitude of the individual. My natural aptitude, for instance, is music, more specifically manipulation of sound in general. When I overstimulated my Ajna center, I eventually began to hear voices, not the good kind, and until I was informed by an adept that I was causing this problem, I didn't know what to do to deal with that imbalance. The book I bought didn't cover anything but meditations designed to awaken the chakras.

Frankly, anyone unwilling to make lifestyle changes to accommodate their energetic changes, deserves what they get. You cannot approach higher development with a luke-warm attitude. But we are taught from the new age nonsense that spills forth from the publishing houses that mystical development can be casual and laxidasical and we can poke around with energy all we want and eventually we'll make our way. But the truth is that some will, and some won't, and some unlucky individuals will lose their sense of reality over it and not come back.

If she wants to see ghosts, and learn to control that ability, the best medicine is to make a habit of paying closer attention to her feelings, spending some time each day practicing a quiet mind, and learning what the ability feels like by opening herself to it and being mindful. Her attitude and demeanor towards the phenomenon will gradually change, and the chakras associated with the ability will be gently awakened and stimulated by the change in her energy that accompanies the change in attitude. In fact, she will attain a more natural control this way. That is not theory, and I did not read it in a book. I was corrected from a previous philosophy which caused me trouble, and have tested it again and again, with several individuals going through similar unexpected awakenings.

She could work with her chakras, but the result, if she is not actively changing her lifestyle alongside that work, will be a very sudden and probably traumatically forced change to her lifestyle anyway. Why suggest that a novice take such a brutal path that could very well throw her life out of whack, when she could instead gradually and patiently, as you have suggested such an endeavor should be approached already, come around to that awakening naturally.

I myself had a traumatic sort of awakening experience with my chakras, but I was fortunate enough to be surrounded by individuals who were able to help me. Clearly she is not, or is not aware of them. Those occultists of various paths who worked long and hard, and with great patience, often take for granted the practices that we ourselves did not successfully take up until after we had been initiated - whether through life experience or literal initiation by a master. We should not be so hasty to prescribe those same practices to novices.

I remember a day when years of study, contemplation, and training composed the initiation process. Patience and a gradual pace are virtues appreciated as one ages well because of it.

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post Dec 29 2006, 11:41 AM
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I think maybe agree on more than what is comeing across in writing. The chakra are a natural part of the body. and they are able to bring about extremely high levels of energy the thing is this energy is also very easily dispersed. The chakra are good to begin energy work with for that reason. Now as you step the ladder to kundalini, and ki and chi energy is when you should not "experiment". I have many many friends that are also chakra students and not one hsas ever had issues. as they progress to higher energy cosumptions and alter there perspective on energy is when they need close attention. Peace and more later.


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post Jan 2 2007, 05:46 PM
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Your girlfriend probably hasn't lost any abilities. Odds are she's just stressed or sleep deprived. Before trying any mystical or magickal approach make sure the cause of this problem is not something so simple to fix. Have her consider her stress in life (work, relationships, family etc), make sure she's getting 7-8 hours of sleep a night. Have her check her diet. She might not be getting enough of some kind of nutriant that allows her mind to hone in on her sensing abilities. Things like coffee or sugar, while they can be good in moderation, can hinder one's senses if used to often. Same with all other drugs. Maybe she's not satisfied with her love life. She could be taking some medicine that is inhibiting her abilities. I've noticed even medicine like tylenol puts me in a daze where I can't really even meditate very effectively. She could also be having a conflict of faith. Perhaps if your girlfriend is at a spiritual cross road she's finding it hard to focus on her natural talents.

In other words talk to your girlfriend and try to figure out what the problem is. We can list off a bunch of reasons why your Gf has lost touch with her abilities. We can even tell you what to do to help her regain her abilities from our point of view. But if there is something inhibiting her then it really doesn't matter and any techniques we might perscribe would only solve the symptoms and not the problem.

A way we could better help is if you or your girlfriend come back online and tell us what she thinks is causing her loss of senses. Then we can recomend specific things that can help clear the problem. She can try something and if it doesn't work we can recomend something else.

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