I've been trying every night to perform a Wiccan ritual, but every night it gets ruined because I have no privacy, and I can't get the Necronomicon out my mind. I carry the Spellbook for the heck of it. Is it a choice anymore whether I want to work with the Necronomicon or not?

By the way, I have this pince cone sitting here on my desk that came out of nowhere apparently... Maybe from one of my grandmother's winter decorations, but it's just sitting here...

By the way, I almost forgot to mention that two or three nights ago I heard a voice in the room... It spoke, twice, but I had no idea what it said... Somewhat of a jumble...

I'm a little reluctant though, to go all out on a system... What is this amazing power?

This post has been edited by ObsidianLF: Nov 30 2006, 04:37 PM

BTW--hows ur friend doing?

On the reply note--dude, the Necronomicon does tend to pick its priests. It chooses u, not u choosing it! Or more appropriatly--ENKI chooses u--u dont choose ENKI.

I would highly suggest getting the wiccan stuff out of ur head completly if u r to use the Necronomicon--for they are two different systems that have clashing ideals if u ask me.

Laterz.........

Well, the Babalao said she wouldn't live more than eight days, and he was wrong. She's defying all odds. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) Zi Dingir Barashakushu Kanpa....

I just feel so frustrated, again, as I'm searching hard for my own path, and the anxiety is killing me... It's like a huge bout of depression lately, and frustrations galore.

I just feel so inconsistent and fear that I can't devote myself to anything for a period of time longer than 8-9 months, even less for the rest of my life.

This post has been edited by ObsidianLF: Nov 30 2006, 06:39 PM

Greetings,

I know how you feel Obsidian, i went through a period like that where no path satisfied me, or rather, fulfilled me. Then one day I came into contact with some folks who are Priests of the Necronomicon and I never looked back. I'm now a Blood Oathed Priest and it's the most thing I've ever felt.
So I'd say it's definately true that as Suxur said, Enki chooses you not the other way around. But of course, it's really more an invitation than an demand. But if you are being pulled by the NEC just give it a shot. You can try it out, summon a few names do a ritual or two and see how you feel.
The Nec system isn't really all or nothing. As long as you do so with respect for the Beings, you can dabble safely.

Peace.

Greetings,

Many are called but few are chosen!

I know exactly what you mean. I found the Necronomicon called me too, and just completely drew me in. I had been working before on the Qaballah and shamanic work, but once I felt called I got drawn in so fast.

I also found that the power and energy you get from these rites is amazing, even though I´m really very much of a beginner. If you really go for it, then you will find you advance very very quickly.

Jon

I did always have this feeling whenever I was using another system of magick in experiments (Thelema, GD, CHaos) those systems seemed to fall well short of what I experienced w/ the Necronomicon. Granted I didnt jump fully into none of those systems--but the pull to do that just wasnt there. DO WHAT THOU WILT....right? Well the Necronomicon is a source to me finding my TRUE WILL. This I fully believe in my heart!

Laterz.......

I think, though, to a certain degree ALL systems choose their own. The older they are the more power is behind them, and the more (I think, anyway) they know what kind of people they need to work with. The Necronomicon is no different.

Sometimes I wonder if magical systems have wills of their own...

Greetings Darkmage,

Certainly each system has certain unseen powers / spirits / deity's behind it. I think it is within the grasp of any system to choose its own. Or perhaps more correctly the forces behind those systems do so.

I also agree that the older a system is the more power it has. The more minds which have believed in that system and used it give it more weight.

Peace

If anyone here believes in reincarnation (which I think many of you do) the older the system the more likely ur soul has a connection from a previous lifetime w/ the spirits of that particular system. I will speak for myself here and say I believe this to be true. I firmly think I lived many lifetimes inside the Gates of Babylon and I was using magick a few of those lifetimes. This may be why I was imediatly drawn to the Necronomicon and not any of the other systems. I tend to think that maybe peoples interest's in magick are based upon their past lives and previous oaths taken possibly as well. For all I know I may have taken oaths unto ENKI and MARDUK many times before in previous lives--I REALLY DONT KNOW FOR ABSOLUTE SURE! But is is one of my odd ideas though....laterz

This post has been edited by Eabatu: Dec 26 2006, 02:50 PM

But where would you obtain a copy of the Necronomicron? I've always been curious about exactly what's written in it...and can never find anyone willing to give me a copy

Greetings Seisoku Nai',

http://www.amazon.com/Necronomicon-Simon/d...ie=UTF8&s=books

Buy it here.

Ed don't you have a pdf version of the Nec. here at SM or at the disciples of enki website? Just trying to save him a couple of bucks. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

Sure you will find in the pdf section. You will even get the spellbook also. :-)

try looking for them. Just dont take the something 100th aniversary version of the necronomicon. download the normal version ;-)

I see, thank you. I'll have to read through it when I get the chance. I've been interested in what's been written in that book for a while now, so I appreciate the help (IMG:style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)

The Necronomicon definitely chose me. Many years ago, when I was unhappy with my then-faith and leaning toward atheism, I had recurring dreams about a female saint or Goddess who told me she was the "patroness of soldiers" and asked me to follow her. I then had a dream about some sort of underworld where an unseen narrator very solemnly spoke the phrase, "The sun is darkly shining." I had never heard of the Necronomicon, was not familiar with the ancient Near East, nor had been a reader of horror or fantasy fiction at that time.

A few months later I came across a friend's copy of the Simon Necronomicon. Not knowing what it was, I picked it up and leafed through it. I was stunned to read about Ishtar, "Mistress of Battle and of Love," and shocked when I encountered the references to the sun "darkly shining" in the nether realms.

I halfheartedly tried a few spells but was not really satisfied so I put it aside for a while. About a year later, life circumstances again left me seeking religious guidance, so I gave this system another chance, keeping an open mind. This time I found great satisfaction and excellent results. Some two decades later, I am still a priestess of Ishtar and my faith has never been stronger!

Well as for me the nec was reason that i started working magick in the first place. not from it but 'cause of the book i got into magick. I don't know if that means anything or not.

Well as you se am a new member, from Argentina, i am here to try find a master or teacher (IMG:style_emoticons/default/00000008.gif) about the topic i am not sure if i got the right book, my book says "El Necronomicon" (i speak spanish) by H.P Lovecraft but inside says " compiled by simon" and i its dedicated to Aleister Crowley is aniversary. I also have the pdf version of the simon necronomicon and the speelbook, i really dont remember how it came to my life, i just know i couldnt stop reading it, even if couldnt understand the meaning of some sentences thats why i bouth the spanish version, something i noticed when reading the pdf version of the simon necronomicon was a strange sensation of being watched that maked me very nervious all this disapeared when i got the spanish version ( the phsyquical book) also i could sleep at night without having strange sensations and hearing noises, also i cannot read the urilla text without feel fear, i read it but dont remeber it, neighter of the two version i could read the urilla text, why? is it a mind trick?
well thats it and please forgive my gramatical errors, i m still learning jeje
godbye

Greetings'Emi' ,

It sounds like you have an illegally translated SImon Nec. I am collecting the Nec in different languages. If you could please provide a link to where the book can be bought in your country.

Welcome to the forum. You have come to the right place! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

There is a little problem with that, i bought it from a local library "Rayuela libros", the book wasn't in production so i had to wait over 3 weeks until they called me, the book had to come from spain i had some parts of the book that have been translated by a friend and so far it matches the spanish book, well if u still want the link of the library here it ishttp://www.rayuelalibros.com.ar
by the way if u want i could send u the pieces in spanish i got, although there are some pieces missing, it can be complemented with the Ashnook web page

Hello, Emi, and welcome to the forum! I get palpable chills when I read the Urillia text or last part of Chapter 2 of the Magan Text, but I don't know if it's because I am perceiving negative energy or if I am just being silly.

Thanks and by the way, is there any method to know if the book has chosen you? or if enki itsefl has chosen or at least invited you to become one of his priest?
again i must say i'm sorry about the grammatical mistakes

No problem Emi. As this is an international forum I would not be surprised if more people here speak something other than English as a primary language.

The book store I contacted in Croatia said that they have a Necronomicon by H.P. Lovecraft. Although H.P. wrote short stories about the Necronomicon he never wrote a Necronomicon. So I thought it was strange. Now I hear you saying something simular.

Interesting.

Enki will speak to you. The Necronomicon will call you. When you find yourself standing before a Agga Mass SSaratu at 3:00 AM you will know. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

Peace!

I found myself called to The Necronomicon several years ago. It just kept calling me, and gave me the most effective result. It is Enki looking for vessels. In my opinion though, a Necro vessel has a lot to do with how one thinks and an individual's psychology. Some have to transform there's more than others. Wicca is interesting. I respect it and there is some power behind it. For those of you who wanna use a form of magic that has govermental approval. That's cool. (Researching the history of Wicca may add some insights to latter comment)

With the Necronomicon, it is all in the approach!

Greetings everyone!

I definitely feel that the Necronomicon is calling me and has been calling me for a looooong time! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
I have always been interested in magick ever since I was a kid and as such got into D&D, GURPS etc, and the first I ever heard of Lovecraft and the Nec and Cthulhu - through the Cthulhu roelplaying game and the horror/cthulhu expansion to the GURPS syetem - I was hooked - even if I did not know it at the time! Since then the Nec has been coming into my life with greater and greater attraction, it seems!

Now that I am more seriously looking into the occult for my personal and spiritual development (again prompted by my training in martial arts and development of feeling and seeing energies) I find that the Necronomicon is pulling me the most out of all the systems I've been researching! Although I do have some feellings towards Chaos, CM and Goetic styles too... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

Especially now, after reading the Gates of the Necronomicon, and its equating of the Walking of the Gates to a self-initiated sytem of deep psychoanalysis and parallels with Taoist methods of enlightenment, all of these systems coming together seems to strike a very strong chord of rightness for me in my self development, finding my True Self and Will, and finding and doing the Great Work!

Peace to us all!
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Hello All,

So, a few of you probably know that i dabbled with the necronomicon a little while back, most of last year, and mostly that involved study, a few minor evocations of the names, and a lot of meditation on the gods Enlil, Enki, and Marduk. That was largely the extent of it at the time, although I did attempt to walk the first gate... don't remember much of the experience.

Well, I had a series of communications with at first Enki, then Marduk, they were brief, and then one night I had a long sort of initiation vision during an AP experience that ended when I walked through a great stone door and into the throne room of enki. The previous two gods on this initiation journey had been Anu, first, and then Enlil. Both of them bestowed 'boons' when I knelt before them, although strangely enough I cannot recall almost any of the experience now, nor can I find the journal I wrote it down in.

Well, when I approached Enki, I suppose my mind was in the wrong place at that point, and I was not only excited to see what the experience would be with him, but I assumed I would afterwards go through a further door to meet with Marduk.

When I knelt before Enki, he turned me away, admonishing my pride and lust for gifts. In so many words. After this, I had trouble with my bandar, and started getting paranoid. So, I banished my bandar, broke the agga mass ssaratu I had made for him, and threw out the tools I had made. So I thought anyway...

In any case, I had determined that the nec wasn't for me, that either I wasn't ready, or perhaps just didn't want to get too deeply involved. Magick has never made me scared before. So, it seemed like I was just walking the wrong path.

Recently, I've been more involved with hinduism, not for it's magick, or anything really having to do with worldly attainment at all. I've been studying the philosophy, and learning bakhti, devotion. I have been praying to Lord Shiva, and seeking a different kind of fullfillment than I had spent much time looking for the past. And the process really has made changes in my outlook, and my 'inlook' if that makes sense. I feel more at ease, more content, and more detached from what I now have more completely experienced to be a world that is truly not permanent or which has any real power over me - not my mind, or body, but the Watcher Behind the Eyes.

Well, in furtherance of an exploration into myself, mastery, inner silence, and a host of other things I strive to cultivate and practice in my life, I took a vow of silence for one moon, the last full moon to this one (march 3rd). The mandate, as it wasn't something I planned in advance and decided to do on my own whimsy, came to me five days before the last full moon, while I was meditating on the image of Lord Shiva. I knew that it was something that would further me, though I didn't know exactly how. So, each day of this vow I practiced bakhti, every day I examined my thoughts, my actions, and my ideals, and each day I cultivated a sense of devotion and appreciation. It has altered my behavior in a subtle, but from what I hear, very noticeable way.

My plan for this full moon, an eclipse as we've been discussing on another thread, was to sit under the moon during the eclipse and chant, pray, make a sacrifice to Lord Shiva and contemplate the last 28 days. All began well, though I couldn't see the moon for the clouds, I could feel the shift in the energy, and I sat with my head bowed, chanting Aum Namah Shivaya, and as has become my practice, I formed the image of Lord Shiva dancing in my mind, focusing on it one pointedly as I have become quite good at in the past weeks.

But, something happened which has not happened before. Now, we have discussed on other threads that the gods are the same archetypes, interpreted in different cultural lights, and to some extent I agree, but I have never felt that the Elder Gods were nearly as loving and compassionate as many of the hindu gods are, and so it's difficult for me to see the parallels exactly, other than the very core ideals behind them, and perhaps their functions to some extent. What happened was this: Shiva's sky blue skin turned black, through no movement of my own mind, his adornments became shadows, and the objects in his upraised hands changed from a drum and fire, to a Sword and Book. His lower hands shifted from signs of blessing, to one hand that carried and large disk of something shiny, I was reminded of obsidian, and the other hand formed some mudra I have not seen before, but which when I saw it reminded me instantly of the necronomicon. This was no longer shiva, and I knew that it was Marduk.

But, despite his countenance, he seemed to exude the same kind of compassion and supportive power that I have come to associate with Shiva. We had an exchange of private words, and I was told in so many words that whatever path I thought I walked, all that I have learned in my attempt to stray have been lessons fed to me by the Gods, to teach me to be a proper priest. My fate was sealed when I knelt at the feet of the Elder Gods.

I have had mystical experiences in the past. This introduction to deities is relatively knew to me, within the recent years that is, I have never been very devotional. I have sought union with the force, with the greater consciousness beyond me. But, since I was introduced to the necronomicon, I have had more powerful experiences than with any other kind of magick or meditation.

I guess the necronomicon does choose its own. I've put this experience here for a number of reasons. It's relevant to the thread, but also, there is a lot of association with fear in dealing with the nec, and that's understandable, but I feel that while it is a source of great power, and nec priests have a reputation, albeit in specific circles, for their practice of it, personally, I have come to feel that there is devotion, compassion, and divinity to be found in this path, as there is in perhaps any path if it is approached properly.

So, I am walking back into the fold, though to hear the Gods tell it, I never really left. Now that I have learned devotion, I feel none of the fear that I felt before.

So, for those perhaps reading who are curious or just new to the path, it is this humble acolyte's opinion that lke any other Gods, learn to love them, to be devoted to them, and to do both selflessly, and they will indeed illuminate you, lift you up, and protect you. If you see them as tools, they will withold from you, and wait for you to become bored. If you see them as entities to give you whatever you want, they will kick you away. They are fierce, but that is a fierceness that will be on your side if you give yourself.

peace.

iI remember going to the bookstore to look at some books on wicca when my head snaped on its own to a spot on the shelf , there sat 1 copy of the necronomicon
if i lost it a freind would give me theirs say their mom doesn't want it in the house . if i burned for a right it wold be accidently mailed to my house yes i would say the necronomicon choses it own . i am very glad it chose me , feel the eder gods are resposible for some very good things in my life , i serve them whith out fail and do it with love in my heart

blesseing to all who are chosesn for we are few , kakamanu selah

I am beginning to become sure that the Necro or whatever forces are aligned with it have called me, long before I realized they were. I am beginning to becomevery interested in the history of the area the Sumerians lived in. Since I was young I have had recurrent dreams of Ninevah, a vision of the city at night. I have revealed on other threads some of the other issues that are beginning to overcome my natural skepticism about such issues.



My workings with the Spellbook are fascinating, very educational (to put it mildly).


This forum has been an enormous help, btw, thank you for the feedback and the honest discussions.

This post has been edited by Gemini23: May 2 2007, 01:45 PM

I have just been introduced to this path and I would say that I was most certainly 'pushed' into its direction. I would in fact go so far as to say not only am I being pushed into its direction but there has been some conflict as to when I begin. After some initial shoving I ordered the Necro from Amazon by way of the one click button or what ever that is and didn't think it worked so I clicked it again. Well now I had 2 books on their way. I figured ok cool so I've been told I'll more than likely i'd be needing that 2nd book anyway. However I believe myself personally that there are certain 'friends' out there who believe I need more time with building relationships with the 50 Names first. As both books were indeed sent back to amazon for an unknown reason. Now I could take this as a bad sign and not to work with the book, however quite the opposite. I have made already great communications with some of the 50 names and rather than simply going ahead with something I have been 'asked' by these 'friends' to wait be thorough so that I am stronger when I continue to forge onward!!

Beleti