Any result of your rites are most often the sum of your soul's Will. Like what has been expressed a few times in here--these spirits read your thoughts and soul! So being vague is a good way to screw up your request--as you are sending a mixed message to the entity in question. Also, you must be sure of what you are requesting, for if not you will have results that are, at best, painful in the end! Also, be concise-like in divination, for these spirits can take alternate meanings form what you ask--so be as specific as you possibly can!

I had to figure all this out the hard way--so consider yourself very fortunate to have people who have already walked through fire!

Good luck to any of you who are just starting along these forgotten paths of the Anunnaki!

Well today is the first sliver(new moon) so I am going to start working on the goal again this time without a circle arround the sigil.
Or do you think I should just jump right to The Forty-Fourth Name, KINMA

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I honestly will promote the active use of Aranunna for all beginners--he can gelp you alot w/o the confussion that some of the others might give to the beginner. So from me , summon Aranunna. In time you will know a bit more clearly you True Will and know where to go by that knowledge.

IA ENKI!
IA MARDUK!
IA ODIN!
IA TAHUTI!

Well I didn't use the 44th name, instead I used the same name I was using before but this time without scribing a circle around the sigil. Then this weekend I got into a wreck. Strange thing was the guy never saw me and it was just the bumper damaged. No other body damage and it is NO big deal at all. The insuance will take care of it, and they put me up in a sporty little car for now.

But I thought this was strange if not coincidental..

Enigmius,

It sounds like U might be lucky if the guy never saw you and there was no major damage. Which spirit did you call? Also how many days after calling the spirit did the accident happen? Anything peculiar like the time or street nubers around the accident sceene?

Peace

It was 4:00 pm, street was windridge and i-30(can't think of anythying significant about that), and it was about less than 24 hours that I called on Zisi that this crassh occured. It may just be coincidence.

I imagine if it was some kind of spiritual punishment or even an attack from said spirit it would have been bad. But everything is taken care of on my end and I am fully compensated, so.. I don't know what that means.

It might nothave anything to do w/ you actually, maybe the other persons karma caught up w/ them. I-30, NANNA? Who knows--it's up to you to judge the reality of the situatution--but do not always lay the blame upon the laps of the spirits, things just happen the way they do some times.

Greetings,

This is extremely interesting. Nothing ever happens by coincidence. 30 = Nanna. Now lets explore Zisi. The peacemaker.His word of calling Mashinanna. Inanna = Goddess of Love and War. Peacemaking and war she presides over. Inanna is the daughter of Nanna the Moon = 30. So we have Venus and Moon energys at work here.

4 + 0 + 0 = 4. Study this Kabbalic life path number. Also 4 = the letter D. So look at things or forces in your life beginning with the letter D.

With the Necronomicon if the ritual is performed perfectly and very powerfully things often seem to work a$$ backwards for 3 days before getting miracously perfect. Many here on this forum will tell you that sometimes with the Necronomicon things work in reverse before starting to blast forwards. It is as if something must be destroyed before that energy is used to create what you want.

The sudden violence of the crash seems fitting of Inanna. As it seems fitting of Inanna that you were not harmed and everything is going to be ok. Perhaps this is a physical manifestation of spiritual forces at work. It certainly seems connected to the calling of Zisi to me. Although I do not believe Zisi is responsible, If Zisi peaced out a crash that was already determined to happen then perhaps walking away unscathed is that Zisi force at work. Perhaps without that peace making energy we would not be having this conversation. Perhaps you would not be here to tell us about your crash.

One thing definitely seems in order. GIve thanks to Inanna and her father Nanna. I am glad you are ok brother.

Peace!

Good one Smasher! It just seemed that there was far too much needless energy exerted on what if's and why's when it should be put towards moving on w/o worrying.......things are resolved.

But that is just me...........

Thanks for this reply. I think I might start picking it apart qabalistically and I will tank Innana and Nana and perhaps Zisi for keeping me safe.

Hey brothers and sisters..Have anyone who used the Nec gotten results not quite what they expect?
Like its never quite what u expect but u wouldnt call it a failure..a success in a wierd way?
and also sometimes situations seem to get alot worse?

here are two i can think off...

1)This family friend i knew was hospitalized for some suspected cancer and she was real sick and she was damn down..
i called upon barashuku to help and while the sickness didnt go off,she felt a sense of calm n confidence in going through this tough period of her life..

2)i called upon Gil and hegal to reconnect with my college sweetheart who i was in a relationship with for 3 and a half years..broke up cuz of a stupid random incident..and had no contact for a few months..I did the magickal working the day before i was supposed to have gone for a birthday of a mutual friend so i knew she would be there..
i made a mistake of not trying to tok to her while there and she did come and say hi and squeezed my hand for a good ten seconds,but i was dumb and didnt go forth..so i thought that maybe the magick need some time to work,but after when i tried to call her she din answer.The wierd thing is,three different girls(acquaintances) started showing interest in me after the magickal spell working intended for my intended target..

any comments wud be appreciated..

I halted my work with the Nec after only a few incidents, I don't jive well with the paradigm, i think, but I have found by and large that when working through spirits, rather than directly, things have a tendency to work out better the way they happen, when they happen like you didn't expect.

I think, personally, that the object is to learn the ways of the spirits in their application of those intentions, in order to understand the higher order of the world around us and abide by it when we do magick directly.

Sounds like classic spirit intervention, though. It's better to face sickness as a battle to win, and to remain faithful throughout, then for sickness to simply vanish from our lives. It is better that we open ourselves to more options, than to obsess about one path we have already left behind.

peace

One thing that did happen early on which I didn´t expect. I summoned the Fire Gods, and then my Bandar, and all was going very well. I then asked the Bandar whether I could take a photo of him. The fire immediately went out as did the incense.

Pretty resounding "no" there, then...

I firmly believe that the nec names not only hear your words when you ask them for something, but they like make you complete naked in the sense that they easily know your deepest thoughts and wishes. When you call them its what you have in mind and wish to have that mostly goes to them. the words are merely here to serve as a vector of transmission of the real wish and to satisfy your mind.



I also noticed that there are stuff that the names wont like do as exactly as you would ask. Or may be not at all what you asked (may be for the time being) or work things in a complete different way.



I noticed that my spells mostly dont work when i ask for someone's ass to exist no more in the physical... like askin for it to zahgurim etc. For me i noticed that these dont really work as i wish may be so as not to stain my karma or may be the names work in a more intelligent manner.



Something more that my mentor also seems to share is that the stuff written in the spellbook or grimoires tend to overexagerate on lots of stuff. For instance for the 'hrim brothers, its said they can kick 10,000 bad asses in a single shot. I guess it got another meaning than telling they can kill 10,000 enemies of yours in an instant if needed. Well may be i am wrong and that the names can really do that but its in the most delicate situations...



regards

mystick

It seems he answered bro. What was he supposed to do to say yes? He seemed to be trying to communicate. I would say go ahead and give it a shot. I have taken many pics of my Bandar. Some are on this forum. Many more are in the Yahoo Nec group.

Hello Brother OmNamaShivaya,
You might know me from the Order, I am Agazi. First when you called Barashuku to help your friend you need to understand that for a person to have a condition like your friend might be part of her evolution and understanding that just her got to go thru it. So when you called Barashuku he might not wanted to change her destiny to go thru her cancer, but to make the experience pleasant so she can evolve and understand why she has to go through that. The Spirits know what it has to be done and how far they can go to fix the problem or make it painless. For example while when I was in Puerto Rico I was very into Santeria and Spiritism. I met this girl that turns out she was my brother and his wife best friend. She had an accident and she had a clog of blood in her brain that gave her a lot of headaches and a bunch of problems. One night I sat down at my brother dinning room and asked my sis in law to provide me with a candle and I have a figure of one of the Orishas. I lit the candle pass him through me and asked to dissolved that clog in her brain. It took a lot of me I got dizzy and very drain of energy. I did all this the same day she went to the Doctor and the Doctor told her that the clog might not leave unless they operate. So I did my thing and after I did my thing she went back to the doctor like a week later and the Doctor couldn't believe that the clog was gone and she didn't need the surgery. So she went to talk to my sis in law and my brother and she told them the wierd feeling she had the same day she went to the Doctor and the Doctor told her she needed surgery. She felt like a warm energy was getting into her brain and coming down her neck, then back and getting realize from the coxy.

For your second experience Bro all I can tell you is to be careful when you call these Spirits about lost love or something similar. They might make you so sweet for you exgirlfriend to come back that some of that sweetness might get to other girls and get you all involved in something you don't want and can mess things up with the one you would like to get back with. It happens to me before.

For your second experience Bro all I can tell you is to be careful when you call these Spirits about lost love or something similar. They might make you so sweet for you exgirlfriend to come back that some of that sweetness might get to other girls and get you all involved in something you don't want and can mess things up with the one you would like to get back with. It happens to me before.
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Hey bro,i have never used magick for purposes of love before,but this case is abit different..U see after we broke up for a seemingly random reason i had a vision of her face in which half of her first was rotten(like a zombie kind) and after meditation i found out that it equates to her being tainted by someones magick which led to our breakup..Her ex bf,who is a known cheater and is still cheating on her.i would have sacrificed her gladly if she was with a better person,but seeing that the guy used dark magick to split a couple up and that hes still cheating on her,i just cant let it pass..

I asked one of the 50 names to help with a drinking problem I had. Right after that every time I drank or anyone around me drank (I mean everytime) something really really bad would happen. I had to counter the spell since that was not my idea of "helping" me kick the addiction. I also used one to help with an argument II was having with a girl, we were having very vicious arguments for a while, then we civilly agreed to disagree, and haven't spoken since (not what I was expecting at all).



I to have halted, because of the experiences I have had with the sorcery of the book and the whole gatewalking initiation process (the experience I had with the gates makes me question the intent of the system).

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I tell you, the very day I got mine in the mail from Amazon.com, I remember I hit it in my purse and took it to work. Eeek...it couldn't have been a coincidence, fights went on all night long, guy and his pregnant girlfriend were pushing each other around, and damn near everything that could go wrong did. So I put the book up for a whille. But I find now, as I have taken it out again, I am asking for help with my creativity, and it's like an explosion of it. I don't know why, but the book is inspiring me in my writtings and everything. And before when my spells were not working, they are starting to again..might be coincidence or not...may even be that wonderous power of the subconcious mind effecting moods and life, but I find I am not that afraid of the Nec as I was when I got it this time, or even when I first layed hands on it way back when I was 18 years old...in fact, when I was 18 I found that spark of creativity as well, but I was going through a lot of illusion in my life. Now, I trust my creativity...and if the Nec is feeding that, or feeding from that, then it's ok...books and words have power...any book. As for the alphabet, one could take it for granted untill one realises how 26 simple letters can be arranged in so many groups of words, and what those words can cause us to feel. Regardless of whether it was a hoax, or one man's desperate reach into the unknown...one thing is certain, Magic fullfills a deep longing within us, a kind of desire if you will. And that is all I am going to say on the matter. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

Greetings levannah60',

Its symbols have an effect on the subconscious mind. It sounds like your mind is harnessing the power. Keep working your own system but explore the conjurations in the Book Of Maklu.

May Marduk smile upon you!

Thanks Jester (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

When I was new to working with it, I used to feel that there was something unlucky about the book. Once I became more familiar with it, I came to view it as a good-luck talisman. I even keep an encrypted copy on a floppy disk to carry with me when I feel that I need extra luck (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

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I haven't read all the post but from skimming through I will give my experiences concerning the "bad luck". When first picking up the book when I was much younger it was an interesting experience just because of the fascination with the whole concept. When I first brought it I did have strings of bad luck from failing relations, mood changes, to getting kicked out of my home, whatever...

Yet looking back, and like others have said they were all in a way tests. Both from the Nec, and from your own mind, your own inner self to make sure your ready. Thanks to help, and to a strong calling I came back with new energy, and a helping hand( Thanks D (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) ) which helped me to better understand myself, and feel a new power inside. Initiating into a new system does require death of the old self to give birth to the new. A better you that will help with your magickal practices. I guess this is what is meant when the Nec chooses its own.

The only bad luck is what you yourself make of it. You approach anything with fear, and suspicion, and you WILL fail. You approach the work with respect, awe, and with determination to get through all the shit sent your way then you will become more then human, and in a way (like it happened with me) you will find a part of yourself. Best of wishes bro... Maybe not what you wanted but thought I add something.

O and Shadowed_by_Shadows... Not sound rude but your experiences with the Griger Nec sound more like an inner fear, and weakness that caused these affects... Not the book itself.