First came into direct contact with this spirit on 21st Oct 06. I took a aggressive approach at first as frankly I was frightened (I also thought it may have been the 'eyes' of a remote-viewer who was spying), which I now realise was the wrong stance to take, however since then I have been nurturing a relationship with this entity

I'm curious to know of anyone else’s experience with spirits that take the form of owls or similar. It was pointed out to me that the drawing I had made of this owl looked similar to the mothman, only with feathers and black and yellow eyes.

Description:
Roughly 6ft high, similarly coloured as a barn owl only with hints of purple on her (I assume) wings. The shoulder joints share both a pair of wings and arms (the arms are separate from the wings and appear very human-like). Her feet aren't splayed out as most birds are, the claws are focused and bent inwards around a limited area, giving the impression of hoofs to mine eyes. No hint of scaly skin on the legs as with most birds either. Right down to the claws themselves is covered with feathers. Edit: Should add here that these details are overwhelmed by this being's huge eyes.

No name has come to me for this being, which is unusual in my experience.

I'll upload a image of this entity later if that helps.

This post has been edited by Zugzwang: Feb 10 2007, 03:52 PM

Greetungs 'Zugzwang',

Please upload the image. A Lot of the Angels and Demons are at least part bird in form. As far as Owls go Lilith the Hebrew Boogey woman and Nike / Athena are represented by the Owl. I think Owls are really cool. I take them as a good omen. Although traditionally they are not taken as a good omen.

What was the spirit doing? What was its intent?

Peace

It would also be interesting to know the context in which the spirit appears, which may help tie things down a bit.

Athena would be nice as she is cool (and hard as nails, a relationship worth cultivating) but I never heard of her manifesting to anyone before. The Olympians seem to be pretty distant by all accounts.

It sure as hell does sound like Lilith the Younger though, in which case I believe there are certain Hebrew verses (presumably from the Torah) which are still used as a charm in Judaic nurseries to keep her away. That might be worth investigating as although she certainly has a glamour about her, she probably isn't going to be good for you in the long run...unless having your semen stolen to father a demon horde is the kind of thing that floats your boat. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/ohyeah.gif)

mm and morning!

if it was me, i'd apologize for being 'mean' at first, saying that you didn't know, were frightened, etc.

then ask for different forms to be shown (o i'm betting owl, wolf, water, woman, moon, silver, black and white - like film)

then ask for the true form, and that you will not continue without it, for it is a test of truth between you

if it is lillith, then in this guise she would be the 'seducer with wisdom' rather than like an sukkubus

so speak and enjoy the contact!

always remember that you are the one in control and act like it - you were chosen, but you are the chosen (equal to equal)

e.

Further to what I said before, my housemate and his eidetic memory step into the breach!

It is actually not verses, but the names of three angels:

Sanvai
Sansanvai
Semangelof

These should be displayed on a talisman, presumably in Hebrew. Psalms 121 and 67 also look like they are common anti-Lilith charms.

Edit: I would add that if it is Lilith and she is turning up unbidden then Zugzwang is already not "the one in control". If she was being deliberately called for some specific purpose then things might be different, but given her power (Lesser Infernal Bride!) I would say that stopping the contact rather than encouraging it is the way to go.

This post has been edited by J*S: Feb 11 2007, 09:40 AM

Greetings,

I agree with j's that it is more likely Lilith than Athena. However there are a ton of spirits out there. I think the odds that it really is Lilith are slim. Unless the spirit has attacked you in your sleep in a sexual and vampiric way. Do an exorcism or two or LBRP. http://www.asiya.org/lbrp.html

Keep us updated.

Good luck!

yum!

e.

Funny thing is, my family use to have a barn owl called athena when I was a kid - never had any bad experiences with her other than she would take a nip at you with her beak if you messed around. Owls have always been beautiful creatures to mine eyes. Another thing is that owls are often seen guarding earth goddesses (forgotten the specific names, something akin to semerasis...) in sumerian mythology.


Some of the points raised here can be answered by explaining how this came about to begin with:
In October, 2006, I was having a shower, as I usually do before I perform the lesser banishing ritual, which would then followed by concentration while in the lotus position - always found that concentration is much easier if you calibrating the mental atmosphere beforehand with the lbrp.

I get out of the shower and put on the clothes I usually wear for most magical operations, I pop into the kitchen to get a drink just before and I look out of the window in front of the sink (it's twilight outside, nobody else in the house) and I physically see for an instant a huge pair of eyes, that's the first thing I noticed, blacker than black pupils with a thin yellow halo of an iris about them - then the human hands and arms, etc.

Like I said I was shocked and frightened so I ran off into the other room with the altar, incense, dagger, and so forth - and perform the lbr immediately which when I finished I noticed a pressure or displacement in the Circle to the north but I couldn't physically see anything, so I sat down in the centre of the circle and stilled my mind and poured myself into my forehead so that I may mentally see what it was. Sure enough the owl-being was there, simply watching. I didn't think at all, my mental body stood up while my physical body remained seated and I could see and feel completely with my mental body, which I had never been able to do before or since - I extended my right hand outwards and it 'glowed' gold and I could feel the heat of a golden pentagram traced on the palm-side of my hand, the highest point being alligned on my middle finger. the two lower points being either side of where your hand connects to your wrist. This golden light seemed to 'blast' the owl backwards, falling through the wall and dissipating into the aether, the way it dissipated reminded me of how it looked like in Tron when programs were de-rezed.

Never had something so dramatic and movie-like ever happen as that - some of it sounds funny but I'm reporting it how it was.

I wrote down what happened and drew a few images in my notebook -









It's immensely difficult to get the eyes down right, it's equally difficult to describe their character using words... they seem to at once piecing and very focused, but at the same time simply absorptive of everything.

As soon as I had finished writing and actually thought about it I had realised how stupid my actions were, they were borne out of fear - in a military scenario say, my actions would be like destroying a building without first working out whether or not it was part of the enemy's infrastructure or not...

Since then I've built up a rapor with this being and it feels right in my heart - no bad vibes at all, and this owl being hasn’t invaded my thoughts since then.

Thought about at the time what owls from a esoteric viewpoint are all about-
They can see where others cannot.
They have a massive field of vision.
They fly silently and have amazing hearing.

Main emphasis seems to be their Sight, from their appearance.

I don't think this owl is a expression of Lilith, I don't feel a connection between myself and her on a sexual level, she isn't revealing any so-called Big Secrets in such a way to indicate seduction - I've seen one of those talismans you mentioned on the door of a flat, written in hebrew - before then I had seen it on the telly. There was alos an amulet you're supposed to use as well...

Heard stuff about how the hebrew people were descended from a birdtribe, or that a birdtribe was part of ishrael or the new jerusalem, but I've never been able to find more info. on that.

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As I mentioned in the previous post I shared the first picture with a couple of people over email, one responded that the image I had looked like the mothman:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mothman

I did a google image search and collated a few pictures from there: -http://s92.photobucket.com/albums/l37/Corporeal/moth/

Similarity seems superficial to me as the owl-entity doesn't look nearly as 'evil' as the mothman, and the owl-entity hasn’t been destroying bridges and scaring motorists (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused012.gif) - but it's still interesting as it's a modern account of ultraterrestrial/spirit activity.

Edit: Not looking for any banishing methods or anything, I'm just interested in other's experience or knowing-of spirits that take the form of owls.

This post has been edited by Zugzwang: Feb 12 2007, 10:27 AM

if it is the mothman archtype, then the owl shape could be your memories filtering the percieved image, or could be the 'opposite' of the mothman - sortof 'owl-woman'

e.