I am really new to NEC and I want to get going now. I have never felt any strange feelings during a ritual, I have never felt NEC calling for me... Can I still become a powerfull magician? For it is that I want to be.

Does anyone have an answer about the tool disposal question? Think dismantling and/or burying them in a secluded place would suffice,or perhaps burning the ones made of flammable materials? Wouldn't want to piss off any gods. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/whistling.gif) I'm basically asking,*if* I were to use the methods of gatewalking and other things in the Necronomicon,can I get rid of the tools and stop using the system after some time without incurring the wrath of any spirits?

And in the book of calling,it says you should get a "round load". What is that?

"and by burning offerings of pine and cedar. And a round load shall be brought, and salt. And, having offered it to the personal deities, the Priest shall pronounce..."

Furthermore,I can't seem to find any method of calling a particular spirit in the book of calling. I could have missed missed something,but all I remember seeing is afew incantations/conjurations for no spirit in particular. Are you supposed to learn this from your watcher,or perhaps in the process of walking the gates?

1. The ritual is actually the least important part of the equation.

2. Can you become a powerful magician? If you are willing to to invest the time and be patient one day all the pieces will just fall together. How strong is your determination?
Go for it dude.

Greetings Ravlor,

1. Also, I've posted a file here that is a fantastic guide to the language. [attachment=609:attachment]

2. As for learning telekineses, well, you could always try the 18. Name. Shazu. He might be able to teach you the proper exercises for learning that.

3. Conversations with the watcher take place through intuitive thoughts and astral hearing, just as you see and hear a summoned spirit. The rituals and information concerning the bandar begins on page .69 of the spellbook.

4. The Fire God is Gibil. He isn't evil. But frankly, no, he doesn't care if you live or die. However, with the proper sacrifice burnt to him, you can ask for his protection, which he will grant.

I have so far called 3 Names. And just to amplify the above statements: I have seen mental images and herd words 'inside' my head. But most of the work I have done with these three Names have come after my meditations. I have become aware of how the 50 Names will guide you to or through situations or send you to the right place and time to get what information (in my case) you desire. In doing this I have been shown aspects of those spirits that are not initially presented and thus have built a stronger relationship with them. I have also incorporated a little something extra in my callings. I will use a candle (color corresponding to the nature of the Name) anoint the candle with Herbs that relate to the reasons of calling. As well as carve the Seal into the candle. I will light the candle as I begin to call the Name. As this is not a necessary action I feel it very appropriate for this type of Magick. For the spirits wisdom and guidance is not just given during the initial meditation of the Calling but will stay with you for much time to come. So by anointing the candle and having it to light each day as I come home it gives me a chance to openly pay respects to that spirit as they continue with their aid!!

Beleti

Well has anyone tried to do an invokation from the book of 50 names at daylight? Is it possible to do it? The thing is I'm tired at night and mostly don't want to stay up late because of school. So is it possible to make these rituals work in let's say 6 AM or later?

You have to try to open up friend. You all have to understand him. At your age I was really confused but you have to open yourself to them (mentally). I think you should start with the spirit that Iniates you, it's in the spell book somewhere and it's one of the spirits that serves Marduk. The other is uglier: you can try the Ancient ones but be careful with them there is always, always a price to pay but they are easier and that's how did it, however now I am stuck with some of them so Good luck.

I have a copy of the Necronomicon spellbook. I would like to know if anyone know's which spirit to use to find a lover(Temporary or a permanent)? I have gone through the book a few times, read through all the 50 names and can only find a spirit that is for creating a childbearing condition. Not a condition I want!

Now, I don't which version of the Spell Book you have, but if it's the one with the incantations etc... besides just the 50 names, then there is a love spell from Inanna listed. It's on page 111 of my version. Also, before you perform it, do the Prelim Invocation on 110.
And lastly with that spell, it says 'to win the love of a woman'. But the spell is actually not 'preference specific'. So it'll work either way.
Good Luck.
Nosotro.

Greetings,

I got mine at Barnes&Noble for $7.99
ISBN-13: 978-0-380-75192-1 http://search.barnesandnoble.com/booksearc...380751921&itm=1

Edward Simon? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

Nosotro,

The version of the Necro spellbook I have is a 30 page, pdf. I just looked through it and found no llove spell from Inanna listed...Because my book only goes to 30 is probably why (IMG:style_emoticons/default/angry_pissed_off_emoticon.gif)

Greetings,

Eabatu and Nostoro you are both following a Shamanic type path I think with your sorceries.

Imperial is actually quite experienced with Ceremonial Magick. In practicing Ceremonial Magick the tools are very important.

For each tool an elaborate concentration is done during which a piece of ones self enters the tool as it attunes to our vibration rate. The more these tools are used during ritual the higher latent charge the tool retains. The tool then begins to amplify our magick.

I have a lot of tools and robes etc. Just the psychological effects of preparing for ritual is great for me. When fully prepared I am like a different person. I forget about my physical life and immerse myself completely into what I am doing. In my daily life I occasionally have doubts etc. After putting on my robe and cloak and drawing the sword I have no doubts. I enter a mind state in which I believe nothing on Earth over it or under it can resist the magick that I am doing.

Sometimes I come to a point in life where I hit a low. I may be depressed or tired. I do not during times like this have the energy to manifest my will properly. During these times I can always pull down energy through one of my tools and replenish myself. Just touching a tool during a troubling time seems to empower me.

Spending a lot of time and dedication making tools should not be held in contempt but applauded. After all the more you concentrate on such an object the more powerful it becomes. The most important time for the tool is the time during its creation. So taking a lot of time and care to do it right is extremely wise. All this attention to detail during its birth forces our essence into the object. Which makes it an extension of ourselves.

It is true that you can do the Necronomicon rituals without a lot of tools or garb however I do not believe that doing that is fully experiencing the power.

Imperial,

The passage regarding not spilling ones seed can be for the most part disregarded. I have been having sex on a regular basis for years during the moon of purification.

From the book of calling.

Thou must abstain from spilling thy seed in any manner for like period of time, but thou mayest worship at the Temple of ISHTAR, provided thou lose not thine Essence. And this is a great secret.

Ok in the temple of Ishtar soldiers paid temple prostitutes for some personal worship time.
So the Necronomicon is saying its ok to have sex if we worship at the temple of Ishtar and do not lose our essence.
Many women have the spirit of the Goddess within them. My wife for example is in truth a priestess. Her body is the temple of Inanna. By connecting with a priestess I connect with the Goddess in the sacred Hieros Gammos. So love making with her is permitted during the moon of purification.
What is meant by not losing ones essence? During the Moon of purification one should not masturbate or fornicate with frivolous women. Once chosen by Inanna there can be no other the Necronomicon states. And so it is against the covenant to be with a woman that the Goddess is not present in.
If one does not have a mate and can not contain ones self then masturbation is permitable so long as the act is done while thinking of the Goddess. The seed is then sacrificed to her and not lost.
The seed spilled with a lover returns to us in their affection and adoration. We have not lost our essence in this manner.
If no strings attached type sex is performed we lose our essence as that person does not return what we release to us.
I realize that many on the forum may have sexual orientations different than my own. The same rules apply regardless of preferences.
If you follow this manner of self constraint the gates are walked just as easily as if you had not spilt your seed at all.
Realistically though a man younger than 50 and especially a young man will have a very hard time not spilling ones seed for 28 days. For a young man this could be impossible. And so we must read between the lines to see through this blind.
As far as inscribing Nebo Gate on a Palm Leaf it also says that it can be written on fine parchment. Many occult supplies sell parchment paper which is just a really fine grade of papyrus like paper. Howe ever I have found the seals just as powerful on plain white computer paper.
Also the seals etc are supposed to be made on the metals of their sphere etc. Although I am currently working on those type of projects in the past I have always used just plain white paper. Using the metal etc makes a powerful amulet. Writing the signs in any manner connect us to the power of the particular gate.
Again we encounter a blind. The difficult in obtaining the proper metal etc put doubt in the mind of the pupil that the gate can be opened without it. The instructions are true to common sense in making amulets or pentacles. An experienced with other systems should see right away though this blind.
As far as being uncertain during ones first Necronomicon rituals goes….. I read the Necronomicon far a few years before I ever attempted anything in it. Initially I was afraid of it. There was no magick forum which I could log into to ask questions about the book. I had never met anyone who had walked the gates although my Brother, Cousin and a couple of friends were working with the Maklu text.
Yes I was afraid to try it. I have no shame in that. Fear often leads to proper caution. It is in the act of standing up to ones fear and accomplishing what needs to be done that is true courage. If something is dangerous and you have no fear of it you are not brave you are stupid. I was very cautious with the book for many years until one day it unlocked itself for me.
I actually stole my first copy of the Necronomicon at 13 much like Imperial stealing his copper for his knife. This is funny in that the Necronomicon claims to be a stolen manuscript. I do not condone theft but seriously when we were kids didn’t we all shoplift a little? Stolen objects may have properties more suitable for a tool than a bought tool. Consider this the time that you obtain a tool is its time of conception. If the object is stolen then we went through some trouble and risk to obtain it. Again I do not condone theft. What I am saying is we are probably all guilty of this crime in our youths.
We all have our own method of doing ritual. If we view our technique as superior to everyone else’s technique we close our minds to creative thought. There are many ways to skin a cat. If we examine others ways with an open mind we can always find something which could be helpful.
Even if one has no faith whatsoever that a Necronomicon spell will work. If one pays attention to detail and makes everything necessary the magick will still work. During the process of making the tool we gain a faith in it which we may not have had as beginners in magick.
Also making the gates and seals has a powerful subconscious effect.
So in short while tools may not be necessary they are quite useful.

May Anu Save us all.

Neris, here are some answers to your questions.

1. Yes though give them time. When I called on Hegal, it took a few weeks for me to get results. But then again I've always been a little slow. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

2. As for banishing thats always wise. You could make the banishing as simple as the Lord's prayer or as complicated as you want it to be. The hard part is to then forget about it. You don't want your lust for results to get in the way.

3. As for Spirits playing tricks on you thats not always a good thing. Your young so you may not understand that right now. This is new to you enjoy it. But don't brag if you get the results you want. Many people don't like or understand magick and they may attack you because of it. But that won't help you. So silence is golden. Just my 2 cents

Good luck,
gmcbroom