hi

does anyone know which techniques involve the use of a subject's name + mother's name + date of birth?

thanks for any guidance

God bless

Ok so a little bit of history:
In hebrew tradition, since the rule was set that is only jewish those from a jewish mother. So ok it is basically a way to make sure there is a genuin lineage between you and your genitor for evident reasons such as cheating, rape etc...
Afterwards it became a way to put a spell upon someone without having something that belonged to him like a little bit of blood, skin, hair or whatever
Now, in islamic practices, cause it seems that you are into this kind of stuff, it is used for any work that doesn't involove angels, jinns or devils. Theurgic works are not for thaumaturgic purposes (I mean causing effects on reality or the material plane)
Ok now for the fun part, there are some tecnics to change youre name religiously without having to sacrifice again a goat making you virtually impossible to attack by the powerful classical moslem attacks but it doesn't prevent you from evil eye or other technics in the moslem world
But if you're really into such things as islamic occult you should use talismans as protections and have at least a training on exorcisme to get strated
This is the way of the fkih and at a higher level the cheikh
I'll dig in my books to get you this stuff
Allah I aounek

salam

thanks for your advice.

i only mentioned the mother's name becuase every muslim magician i have spoken to always asks for this. the people that did this had access to my peronsal belongings and 1 of them would also have access bodily fluids.

i am learnign about this stuff so i can understand how to protect myself and family and find a solution.

i have seen many talismen with magic squares and circles, do you have any idea what kind of magic that is?

God bless

God bless.

Interesting! Then, how is changing your name religiously done? Can you give some examples, how this is done? From Islamic perpsective would be more appreciated (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

God Bless!

Mo (IMG:style_emoticons/default/thumbsup.gif)

sallams

magic squares with numbers in them.
the arabic letters have a numerical values. so when you make squares with numbers in them they represents certain surahs ( chapters ) ayats ( verses ) in numerical value so its easy to write without making mistakes and you can carry the talisman anywhere. if you had just the surahs and ayats written normally you couldent take it to unclean places and you would have to have wadhu all the time.

you cant just write the numbers just by copieng someone elses the numbers have to go in a certain order otherwise it wont work.

hope that helps.

This post has been edited by zaid: Jan 3 2008, 09:56 AM