hello, i am looking to see if anyone has any infomation on how to phase. i have looked but can't find anything that is useful.

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What do you mean by 'phasing'? I hope that you aren't refering to the ability ascribed to "whitelighters" in the TV series "Charmed"?.

sorry about that my computer keep saying their was an error so i posted it until it came up and saw it had posted.

and no, no orbiing like leo from charmed, phasing like when you put your hand on a wall and can push it through the wall along with the rest of your body.

OK! LOL! I haven't heard of this in any form of real practice and consider it a theory as such...but this doesn't mean anything! Maybe one (or more) of our members can fill in some blanks? Good Luck! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

It is a question of changing the vibration of your bodily matter so that it starts to change which dimension it is in or defy the dimension that it is in.

I know 1 woman who is capable of it.

It happens to her rather randomly [partially falls through a chair or car].

She makes it sound like shit.

Check somewhere in Hindu-sorts of religious text, maybe phasing is listed in there once...

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Please see my posts under Astral sight techniques in the Psionics Forum. I have heard of it and may be able to answer some questions.

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Perhaps this will be of some help:

Soldity is an illusion. All that makes an object appear solid is the fact that it's electrons are bound together tightly. For instance, when you set a glass on a table, the electrons in the table support the electrons in the glass. Beyond the electrons is vast space filled with particles. If, one could visualize seperating their electrons and the electrons of the object they wish to pass through, in theory, one could indeed walk through solid objects.


This will likely take a lot of practice, but I would be very interested in your results. Please keep us informed.


Enjoy.


Makavelli

thank you it sounds like that would work. this should help alot.

There's a biblical reference, which Jesus passes through closed doors after his resurection. I think it's in the book of John, you can look it up yourself, if you're interested.

The key phrase it that though, is "after his resurrection". He was no longer corporal.

No, the key phrase is "reference"! That statement is incorrect though. Reserrection means he was dead and now he's alive with a body, restored. Not, he's a spirit, a ghost, or zombie walking around in an incorporeal form.

Anyhow, I was just making a reference to where I've come across phasing from a scholar's point of view. Didn't mean to spark some religious debate.

At that point, he was indeed corporeal. Christ ascended after the ressurection - his vibration was raised to the point that he expanded past the boundaries of this dimensions and became pure consciousness. His body went with him.

Quarad is correct, it is a question of vibration. Some people are born naturally quite high in vibration and don't have far to go. You can explore a number of methods both popular and off the beaten track to accomplish a heightened frequency, when you find something that works for you, stick with it. It must be a means sympathetic with your own energy.

Personally i've never met anyone that could do it, but according to everything I have experienced regarding the physical world, solidity must indeed be a result of lowered vibration. There are forms of light, for instance blue light (heard of blue tooth?) which will pass through solid matter, as an example.

good luck

peace

Hi.
I read an article at psipog written by Rainstorm about his experience with phasing. Check it out at http://www.psipog.net/show.php?id=11 He also did an update on the subject here http://www.psipog.net/show.php?id=86

thank you earth star i have been to psipog but no one can explain how exactly to phase so i guess i'll just have to try harder until i find out how.

I have some ideas, just talking out of my besom here so don't shoot me.

Maybe you can try vibrating the object or wall so that the atoms are loose, and then putting a finger in there. Maybe start with something as small as a piece of paper to put a pinky through.

Or

You can change your vibrations and the objects vibrations so that you phase through.


And these are random theories being shot at you lol, I can't phase... a least I don't think I can O_o. I would suck big time If I was walking around the city and suddenly fell in the sewer ><

not sure but try gathering a lot of energy and vibrating your cells to the point that your vision goes blank or your body or body part feels like it's going in multiple directions

if i remember correctly you should be able to Phas through thoughings

Hmmm where to start. First off if you manage to do this in a dream while haveing an out of body experiance that will give you a good idea of how it feels and also some idea of how to do it while awake.
I have to tell you i have practiced in this area for a long long time and the real problem is "dragging" the physical body along after you pass thru something. Its easy to walk around and pass walls but to actually pull your body along is the key and one that is the hardest to learn. Im not going to say its not possible but the physical body is just that and is part of this world.
To raise you physical vibrational state enough to do this you would have to know the vibrational state of the item you are passing threw also.
I have moved on to just letting my light body travel about as i want and the heck with my physical body it will be gone sooner than i want anyways.
The occurance of a human actually phasing is rare and i have only read of it factually happening in Shaminic books like Castaneda. In that case the physical body went with the dreaming body but than was never able to return.
The other practice of note here is leading or scouting in spirit. I have been able to push myself out or in front of my physical self and than back this allows for advanced attention to the spirit and i believe is the eventual key to what you are seeking.
If you are very serious about this meditate on it and see what you are told. Good luck.

And has she never thought to document this? You'd think if somebody could completely defy the laws of conventional physics that they'd share it with the public.

I did not feel like retyping it. This is from a different board about the same subject.

Taken from:http://psipog.net/art-concerning-phasing.html



That would be instant death. Any way to do that would not result in death is way beyond the grasp of your average Joe.



I do not feel like going into the dynamics, but let me say this. My heart is stable and solid. It matches the molecular orbits of another particle to pass through it. The molecules that make my heart are matching another particle so there is a type of cross matching and interference with one another. That would interfere with the body's cellular and biological processes resulting in death, due to the fact that one imbalance in the human body that can not be corrected can result in death. In order to phase onto another plane or to a location, you have to completely change the properties of the your molecular make up and then reform them on that plane and then reform then on another. Keep in mind, if you could pull it off, what would happen to you in the meantime in the lag time. For that moment, your entire body has been ripped apart molecule by molecule. Think about if I wanted to take you on a plane. I cut you up into little pieces, stuff you in a suitcase, and when I arrive put you back together. Sorry, your dead. You won't just come back. Your body has been completely broken down, so technically you are dead, all biologically processes would have been completely broken down.

I said the heart, but what about the brain. If I sync molecules to the orbit of another, it creates spaces in the matter (do not feel like going into the science talk someone pick that up) and they pass through each other through those spaces. So, for a second, you have a space in your brain, on a molecular level maybe, but a space all the same. Do you see the problem if your whole body passed through a wall? All biological, neurological, or whatever processes would be interfered with resulting in probably death.

If you bend the path between two locations, you can set it up so you arrive in the shortest time. Take a string. Hold it straight out. See the distance between the two points. Now bring the points together. The distance between the two points is closer than when stretched out. If you found a way to fold the distance between two locations by affecting time, space, and matter, you could establish a form of teleportation, but there are so many conflicts in physics on that level it is not even funny. The only thing that we know of that can do that is a black hole, and I reaaaaaaaaaaaly doubt that a person can create something like a black hole via psionics.

I am slightly angry. If Rainsong deep indeed phase, then she is aware of the problems surrounding it and the dangers associated which are alot more than a slight headache. You would be lucky if that the only thing you got if you even were close to pulling it off.

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This post has been edited by telempath: Nov 18 2007, 07:04 AM

I've not heard about phasing before this, but phasing yourself as described above looks fraught with peril. Messing with something as fundamental as your kinetic interactions with the material world is a bad idea, IMO. Want to walk through walls? Phase the wall itself, knock a hole in the wall, or (better yet) just use the nearby door. Teleportation? Speed up time, get a fast vehicle, or install cunning trap doors everywhere.
There's infinite different ways to do anything, it all depends on your objective and how much patience you have. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

A lot of people do not understand that bad things in psionics equals death. I was pissed at Rainsong for posting that article. I spoke to her one time in IRC, though. She is a nice person. I couldn't believe she posted that article. I said hey to her we talked about shields and then my connection went out. She is a very strong telekinetic. She showed up as bright to my mental senses.

I have actually damaged my body( and sanity) in trying various things. I almost screwed up my ANS (that s apart of the nervous system) to hades, burned myself, made myself sick, and damaged nerves. A lot of people do not realize that you can burn out your nerves. Pooling a large amount of energy in a center not ready to contain it through a network that can't handle it, will screw you over. Those are the physical attributes and do not forget the mental dangers. I have met alot of crazy empaths and telepaths. Well to be blunt, you can count me as one of them.

I don't disregard practicality. If the solidity is just an illusion, jump off a cliff and see if that is an illusion. Stand in front of a car and see if that is an illusion. If it is, you should pass straight through the car or the ground. This reality may be an illusion, but it sure hurts like crap when you get shot.

There are dangers when practicing psionics, due to the fact that you are playing around with physical forces that can have an impact on your body. Oh yeah, I have had seizures. A seizure is a sudden electrical surge in the brain. I was doing something and the backlash almost fried my brain. I was concentrating on causing a big affect by manipulating a bunch of small things. The strain and the energy was too much on my brain and it went "zap".

I actually get a kick out of people who discuss doing big things like that. In most cases your body wouldn't allow it. If you overcome such barriers, your body would probably die. You are using the energy that your body uses to live off of. The brain and the body doesn't produce energy so you can do cool stuff. When the ANS is disrupted, there goes breathing, heart rate, and all those other involuntary actions. We all know what happens when the central nervous system gets interrupted. Oh, there goes the perphial nervous system. Oops, there is a seizure. The energy is used to carry out vital functions. Use that all up and you either burn out or shut down. I had a bad experience with it. Almost died!!!

Doing things like that can be VERY dangerous. It is not as simple as "seeing through the illusion".

The practice of psionics can be very dangerous to the mind and the body. I did not even go into the risks of practing advanced telethapy/empathy or being born one naturally.

I liked Rainsong. I couldn't stand the rest of those "psionic" pricks.

I used to about cry when I got depressed and not because of the depression. When I am depressed, my body would draw in heat from the and electric energy. My skin hurt. Imagine having like a weird painful electric feeling running through your nerves especially down your back. It didn't hurt, but it felt so odd. It was an unpleasant feeling. My body would sometimes shake. I am already upset and that happens. Imagine how that made me feel. Anyways, my body would then dump it all back. First off, that hurts. Imagine that feeling now exiting your skin. I hated that feeling. Ontop of that, electric things near me got blown. Can't watch tv, its fried. Oops, light bulb is broken. The phone is either fried or you knocked out the signal. Anyways, the point is that it had a painful affect on my body. NOT FUN! The dangers when playing in the kinetic side of things are many. The mental side has probably more which land you in a psych ward.

This post has been edited by telempath: Nov 20 2007, 09:13 AM

i have done little phasing work, but i know one person who has. first off, she says it is excruciatingly painful. phasing your entire body would kill you(if not due to the pain, then due to the fact that you would become free floating matter.) phasing is just flat out a bad idea. if i were you, i would try making the object you are trying to pass through less solid, or altogether spread the particles out enough until the structure collapses. secondly, if you are to make yourself less solid, i believe, (i am not sure on this, not having witnessed this act fully) and you phase everything, your cells will lose their bonding. you would die. i am not sure on this second issue, but i am sure enough that i would not risk it myself. why not use a door instead? and save your energy for something more useful?

just some thoughts

steven