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Dec 20 2007, 06:42 PM
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Most psychologist agree that a genius is anyone who measures with an IQ of a minimum variance between 136-166. Thats two say that some think the minimum is around 136 and others think its around 166 and that any score between the two is deffinately an above average IQ and anything beyond 166 is deffinately a genius level score.
Standard IQ tests messure one's ability to think cognitively, recognize numerical, mathematical, spatial and linguistic patterns. There is a certain expectation of one's performance at a given age. So the younger you are the more questions on the test you can miss and still recieve a higher IQ. However the older you are the more mature you are considered and that means you should miss fewer. One of the key factors in determining an IQ score is that it is timed. The faster one completes a test and the more answers they get correct, the higher the IQ.
While a standard IQ test is generally an exceptable way to measure the intelligence of most middle and upper class english speaking citizens, it is culturally biased in that someone who is just starting to learn the language would likely not do as well as one who already spoke the language. Then again a non-American, who speaks english and has a better education than an equivilant person in this country, might do better simply because of the better education.
Thats the standardized version of what a genius is - a number within a percentile.
Basically a genius is anyone who's a prodigy in some mental ability be it mathematical, artistic, litterary, musical, philosophical, or other wise scientific.
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Dec 20 2007, 06:54 PM
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A genius is usually regarded as an incredibly intelligent person, others define it as people who are so intelligent that they cause the world to view things in a different way through discovery or work of art, perhaps even inventions that change the world.
Some rate it simply as having an IQ that is higher then the 98% of the rest of the people on the planet…but I hold Genius a bit higher then just intelligence, there has to be more action behind it. It is funny as one of the most intelligent people in the world, has done nothing to show for it as of yet. But he can learn anything mathematical and write incredibly well, play complex instruments…but he is supported by his professor girlfriend and often does not finish anything he is working on.
I am a bit more broad minded in what I consider genius. I think of it as anyone who masters something difficult and makes it look easy. People who do not need to obsess in order to be masters of their craft. This allows athletes to be athletic geniuses, and almost any other discipline to have geniuses.
How does one become a genius? No idea. Was Aleister Crowley a genius? I would think he has to be. It is difficult to think of a single person who has had more influence in one area then he has.
I have no idea how one becomes one…what is necessary, or anything like that. I would also like to differentiate it from a savant, someone who has labored and or studied long at his craft and is able to do it on a level few others can.
Also famously Idiot savants come to mind, Masters of one thing, but useless in almost all other aspects of daily life.
I think a genius must also be able to express his thoughts, this makes it much clearer in the arts, but more clouded in other crafts.
This last I am not too tied to, but it helps in recognizing one.
That is my current take, ask me again in a year and I may change my opinion.
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Dec 21 2007, 11:40 PM
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While I am very willing to give up that point, any artistic endeavor is by it’s nature a form of expression, thus I can not yet give this point up.
As a bottom feeder, I lack the intellectual capacity to see how someone who can not express themselves can change the outlook of the world on a subject, or some discovery without being able to express it, does not make them any less intelligent, however totally useless to the bottom feeders, thus pointless to acknowledge.
However like I said I am more then willing to give up, I just do not see how.
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