Hey guys,
My 20 year old brother has apparently recently been approached by a member of Freemasonry, and asked if he wants to join. I know practically nothing about the group myself, aside from occasionally having heard probably the usual dark rumours. From the little reading I tried to do on the group probably close to 15 or so years ago, I did get the impression that they were Luciferians...although I wasn't able to really confirm anything definite. I apparently had a great uncle who was a member of the group, but true to form, he never said much about it.

The single main question I wanted to ask is if it's true or not that they are in fact Satanists...if they are, I'm almost certain my brother isn't going to want to join. I haven't bothered to look up info about them elsewhere on the Web, because I figured I'd get two very polarised depictions of them. One portraying them as baby eating demoniacs who perform the proverbial "unspeakable rituals with sheep and street urchins," (to quote Phil Hine) and the other portraying them as radiantly glowing beings of light and the authors of democracy; the saviours of mankind.

I know neither of the above images are therefore likely to be correct...but can anyone possibly give me one which is somewhere close to the truth?

This post has been edited by Petrus: Dec 21 2007, 08:44 PM

Greetings,

The Freemasons are at worst a reclusive social club with mildly religious overtones. Joining may be a good move as they tend to look after their own- like a group of close net friends. There are no down sides as far as I know, no eating babies, or overthrowing the government, might have an initiation ritual though.

Cheery-Bye

The masons also do not invite anyone to join, or recruit in any way. I have known several masons in new york, and while i learned this simply from studying their history generally, they tell me as well, that this is a fundamental tenant of their order. You must choose without any coercion what so ever to join the masons yourself. So, either you or your brother is not being 100% honest. Part of the reason they do not recruit anyone is so that no one will say, "I was asked to join the masons." Traditionally they have a series of initiation rituals intended to expand one's conscious on some level, and refine the character of the individual. The ones I know spend a lot of time doing charity work. Mystical knowledge of one form or another may or may not be an active part of their activities - there is a lot of symbolism, but as to those inner motivations, I could not say much.

That's about all I have to say. The masons I know are good people. Good energy, good auras, that stuff is hard to fake.

peace

My mother told me about it, and she described my brother being invited to join them, in those words...but it is possible that she misinterpreted what my brother said. I was not intentionally lying myself. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/tomato.gif)

Greetings!
I am in agreement here...I have never heard of the Masons recruiting...something is being misconstrued here. Also, my dear old Granddad was a high order Mason...he was not, repeat not, a Satanist! I could never get him to speak of the Order when I stumbled across his Library as a kid. He merely stated that he had nothing further to say about it and removed the books...(I was pissed and then, REALLY curious) When he passed on, the Masons came and took care of everything...the funeral, the reception AND the Library! *grin* I did have a chance to sneak a peek on occasion but saw nothing to imply ritual Satanism at all. Actually the ritual was very similar to the Golden Dawn rituals I'm acquainted with. No Satanists I can see (though I can't lay claim on the hidden lives of anybody).

From my perspective, they are an interesting social club. They have some mystical components, but it depends on the Lodge as far as the degree of importance. The only downside I can see to joining is National Politics, tabloids would eat the concept of joining a secret and exclusive “mens club”.
However from everything I know and have read, a bit on the subject. Nothing bad other then seeing it as pointless, think of it as a fraternity with less beer and allot less women, and a bit less silliness. But depending on the Lodge, it has a lot of movers and shakers in the local area who it does not hurt to rub elbows with.

Also from what I understand is that they have a seeker type program, so it might be a misunderstanding.
One person says you should look into becoming a Free Mason. You look into it, you do the Seeker work and they offer you to take the initiation.
The easiest way to describe it is they invited you to become a Mason…you get a nifty apron and some nifty tools and things to stick on your car.

I do not think there was any deception going on…but you know your brother better then we do.

This post has been edited by paxx: Dec 22 2007, 02:26 AM

For anyone who's curious about Freemasonry there's a pretty good section of PDFs here. I recommend and judging for oneself.

http://www.hermetics.org/library/Library_Masonry.html

This post has been edited by Daathvader: Dec 22 2007, 07:20 AM

Straight from the horse's mouth:



http://www.supremecouncil.org/ (Scottish Rite)

my grandpa was a freemason. It involved work in society, not completeley sure what exactyly but involved such things as ideas for the community, law and order.
And a quite a bit of a drink and a chat now. But only mmmmm (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused012.gif) slightly worried side to it, is thier influence on some communities since alot of the people that go are such people as judges, police and lawyers. hope that gave an insight

Two of my good friends are high degree Masons. Actually, they are the same 2 friends who initiated me into the Golden Dawn. Open up Regardie's GD textbook, and right away, it starts on about both Freemasonry and Rosicrucianism. When Rosicrucianism became an official order, only Freemasons were allowed.
In my understanding, from a historical and lineal point of view, Freemasonry sits smack dab in the center of the Western Esoteric Tradition. Without it, we would never have had the Golden Dawn. Sure, they are pretty much just a men's scotch club these days, but the knowledge is still there. While browsing through my friend's Masonic library, one thing became very clear: whatever the members DO is irrelevant. Freemasnry itself, its history, its symbolism, etc absorbed into itself the ancient, pagan Mystery Schools (from Chaldea, Greece, Egypt, etc) and in doing so preserved the esoteric knowledge and symbolism of the West for future generations.
In conclusion, if your brother has an avid interest in the Western Esoteric Tradition, then he can only benefit from being a member.

Also, from what I've gathered, besides being a social club, the development of our moral selves is a main aspect of Freemasonry. So there's that, too. But I'm not a member yet.

Here's some cool articles on Freemasonry and esotericism:

http://www.hermeticinstitute.org/docs/esot-freemasonry.pdf

http://www.hermeticinstitute.org/docs/chamber.pdf

My Granddad was also involved in the masons, but they weren't as interesting as the real ones. His was just a social club with slightly religious overtones. From what I've seen it's been a positive expirience for him.

I'm just finishing up the Key to Solomon's Key and anyone with even a slight interest in Masonry MUST read this book.