I was wondering is their any mantra, or prayers of which if I wanted something I can get what I want. Note: If their is I want something safe. I don't want any demons scaring the shit out of me.

For example: I wanted the world to be cure of diseases.(Just at the top of my head) Then I would say a prayer, mantra, or etc. and I would get what I want in an Instant.

Also, ever since I was 14 years old, even now when I go to bed. I get these weird touches by some presence at night touching my body. I would feel something poking my butt with a needle and then something touches my leg. Then I feel this kiss on my neck. Then one time, which was a year ago. I think it was a female spirit that I prayed to called Sophia. I was going to sleep and I had my hand on my genitals and then something took them off and started kissing me on the lips and I had my closed and then I saw these flashes of a hot woman. Then sometimes, some spirit stimulates me and I got kinda scared. I forgot to put this in my first topic on this section of the forum. I know you guys are probably saying as a joke your momma's playing you. For all you jokers, no she's not like that with me. I'm really being serious because this is weird. Even right now something is touching on my neck and around my stomach.

Edited By Vagrant - We have members of all ages, please be as technical as possible when talking about these sorts of things, there is no need to be vulgar, and certainly no need to accentuate the nature of your features. Just one warning.

This post has been edited by Vagrant Dreamer: Jul 12 2008, 01:02 AM

The short answer is no, there is not.

Magical efficiency takes years of dedicated work and development to attain. Any joe schmo can put minimal effort into a magical act and will get some kind of results. Magic is just consciousness acting on reality, and everyone does it all of the time. Magicians pick and choose particular actions they want their consciousness to take, and reinforce that with ritual of some form, even simple mental exercises, to make the process more efficient - i.e., faster, with more significant results.

It doesn't sound like you have terrible problems, personally, but bad things often come clothed as good or fun things, so if it makes you feel scared, nervous, etc., then either that's your reaction to the energy of this entity - assuming it isn't your imagination, which amounts to whether the entity comes from inside or outside - or it's just an unusual and alien experience for you which makes you uncomfortable. I would say, learn and practice the LBRP to start, use some solar meditations to increase the positive energy in your sphere of sensation, or simply try to communicate in some way with the entity the next time this occurs. You might be surprised at the results of simply talking to it - whether it is an external non-physical entity, or just your imagination.

Could also be a telepathic thing if someone out there is thinking dirty things about you.

peace
V

So Vagrant Dreamer? Have you ever had an experience like this? If you said it's an alien experience. Then you are saying that aliens are invisible. I don't know that. Also, I so fucking confused on this earth. are angels the grey ones or are they different?

This post has been edited by asimon2008: Jul 12 2008, 01:36 AM

Ah, by alien I meant foreign. I should have been more precise with my words. Although, depending on your beliefs, I might not rule out the possibility. I have heard all kinds of stories, yours wouldn't be the strangest. however, I prefer to start closer to home and work out from there, following occam's razor. The simplest explanation tends to be the most accurate.

I had similar experiences when I was actually a little younger than you. In retrospect - now that I know what it feels like to be in the presence of an incorporeal being - I know that in my own case it was just my imagination. But, I don't like to generalize experiences; for you it might be something different. All I'm saying is, reason it out for yourself, test your reasoning with action, observe the results. Don't jump to conclusions, or pick the most attractive explanation just because you want it to be something it's not. Objectivity is important in many areas of life, but when it comes to these sorts of experiences in particular, it's critical. Lose objectivity and start making assumptions based on wild ideas that sound exciting leads to, well, insanity in the long run.

Theories on Angels vs. Greys abound. Personally, I don't believe that angels and greys are the same beings. I've had experiences with angels, but not with greys, so honestly I cannot say for a fact it's true - however their modus operandi doesn't seem to line up according to what I've heard. You hear about greys abducting people, doing experiments, etc... on the other hand, Ezekiel is said to have been taken up to heaven on a flaming chariot, by angels. So, who knows. I've never asked an angel about it, as it's never crossed my mind while in the presence of one.

Being alive is confusing. It's the condition of consciousness limited to the physical template we, most of us, start with. I'm afraid answers are not always easy to come up with. For now, I suggest you try communicating with whatever entity it may be, just by talking to it. Or, thinking towards it. Most incorporeals are more adept at telepathy than we are. If you feel threatened, look into banishing rituals. Or try telling it to stop or go away. If it turns out to be something coming from your own imagination, then ultimately there's probably no harm, so let go and have fun with it. To test that you can try to control it. Make it do something else, etc. If you can control it then chances are it's in your own imagination, not an external entity. On the other hand, it could just be responding to your mental commands. But, it's a place to start. Open a dialog and go from there.

peace
V

You said that it was probably my imagination but it wasn't that night when something touch my genitals. It felt real as hell. I had 5 girlfriend's in my life. I know what a kiss feels like. Whatever that kissed me alien or spirit wanted me for something. I've been at my grandma's house for 2 weeks and I sleep in my uncle's room. I always keep the lampstand light on my room because I remember when I was a kid I would feel scared and uncomfortable in his room. Like something there was out to get me. Last night as I was going to sleep at 2:15 a.m. something was touching while I was awake. I said who was there like a ghost. I can't feeling this strong presence. I felt somebody's body on top on me and I said who goes there. I knew something was in my room. Because it felt like my eyes were seeing something that was invisible. It felt like there was more than one presence in my bed. I felt like spirits were surrounding my bed. VagrantDreamer I not saying that you are liar that it's just my imagination. But something is really touching me at night and it's not human. I believe it might be spirit that I had affair with in another life. I really believe in reincarnation. I probably need to ask a psychic what that thing wants.

This is what that spirit or something does to me:

1. Wrap arms aroung my body
2. I feel stinging feeling on my neck
3. Needle stinging on my butt
4. Touching my private parts
5. Kissing me on the lips.


I don't what the hell is going on but I need to solve this problem and fast.

Well, I did say there can be other explanations, just that it's best to start with the simplest explanation and work your way out. If they or it won't communicate, and you feel threatened, then it's time to look into learning banishings, if you're looking for a magical solution. If you don't practice magic and don't have an interest in developing a practice, then pray to your higher power, or find someone capable of performing the banishings for you.

Then again, you may be communicating wrong. Try different methods - speak outloud, speak in your mind, most importantly though if you do speak to a spirit, be sure to then open yourself to hearing it back. It probably won't be something loud and 'external' sounding, it will probably be in your mind. it may not be words even, it could be sudden sensations. Different spirits communicate in different ways. Without some frame of reference beyond it's actions and your own feelings, I can't tell you how to communicate with it - you have to figure that out for yourself in this particular case.

After these experiences how do you feel? Scared, relaxed, happy, sad, angry, energetic, fatigued? Evaluate the entire experience, what leads up to it, what happens, how you react, what you feel and think afterwards, what you think about during, and examine your lifestyle also for correlations. Look for recent changes in your life, or changes around the time it began, evaluate personality changes especially, as these reflect major shifts in your sphere of sensation. Write notes, don't just think about it internally, keep a list of these things, and look for patterns. If you find patterns, try and change them and see what happens - your quality of thought, habits you formed just prior to or as a result of these experiences, and don't skimp on the details; grooming habits, dietary habits, thinking habits, any kind of substance use - tobacco, marijuana, alcohol, etc. - changes in your family, with your friends, relationships that either developed or broke down; look at habits of desire, what things do you daydream about having/doing/getting, etc.; look at the quality of your dreams on the nights that this happens. If it happens in a particular place, look into the history of that place.

Basically do your research, but some work into it. No one here can just fly out and take a look around and do it all for you. You want help from this place, all we can do is tell you How, no one can just give you answers, there are far, far too many possibilities for anyone to make a hypothesis beyond a very general explanation pointing you towards categories of experience that may or may not be in the same ball field as what you're experiencing. Based on what you've told us so far, it could be a spirit lover from another life, it could be a manifestation of a thoughtform based on lustful thoughts - no offense but you are a teenager and chock full o' hormones - it could be a succubus, it could be the manifestation of a future lover you haven't met yet; it could be any of a hundred different categories of experiences. The only way anyone can try and help you any more than that is with more information. If you want to give it some thought, look into the things I mentioned in the previous paragraph, and bring that information here, I or anyone else with a word to say on the subject can help you look for patterns.

search LBRP on google or in the search field here located in the top right area of your browser window for this website. That's one particular banishing ritual you'll find everywhere, if you're interested in that approach.

peace
V

I found out what I believe what it is. I just looked on google about succubus and they mess with humans while sleeping. That would make sense. Because that's when it starts. But it shouldn't right now. Something's touching me right now and it's only but 8:34 p.m. This is one of the weirdest spirits on the planet. But their is a reason. First off, I'm a Leo and I tend to have some sexual experiences with my best friends and even they tell me that they have them about me. So that could be it. Also too, earlier this afternoon at around 2'o clock. I was laying down with my eyes clothes. I could here this faint voice breathing. Then it just came to mine about about a being named Lilith.

It happened again last night. I was reading last night about Lilith and the role she plays with what she supposedly she does to little boys doing puberty. I got sleepy so I went to bed. I prayed to God and told him to protect me and stuff and I said St. Michael protect me from evil. So I got in the bed and I was in good position to go to sleep until I felt a body on top of me and something grabbed my hand. At the same time my pineal gland was kicking in. My pineal gland was flying off the charts(meaning vibrating much more powerful than before.) So I got out the bed, I turned on the light and said, "Who goes there" Heard nothing. I asked myself let me listen for a faint breathing that I heard from the other night. I heard nothing. So I got back into the bed. I was about to fall asleep again and I don't know how but some spirit took my boxer shorts off and started I believe giving me a blowjob. I saw my dick being pulled and shit. I was like the WTF.Then this huge body on top of me and I felt this heat sensation around my pelvis and and the top part of my thighs. Then for some reason. You know when you real close to a person's face. Well, something was close to my face and I heard a faint girlish "OHHH". So I said out loud," You must really liike me to do this crazy shit. But then again I'm not the first 16 year old to have some kind of spiritual sex thing. I guess. Then I said," You do what you want I'm going to sleep. So I went to sleep and I woke up I felt prettty better than usual. Except for one thing. I had a erection hurting from Portland, Oregon to Great Britain on foot. I kinda laugh about it and I said she really did a number while I sleeping or whoever it was. I didn't have a nightmare either.So I decided to put a little theory to the test of my own to see if I was crazy anyways. The Jewish people have always said that supposedly succubus and Incubi look to take semen from individuals. So I said I know how I can prove this out I'm going to masturbate and to see if I'm crazy. By the time it came no drop of semen came out. I was like usually during sleep I figured that I genitals make some by the time I wake up in the morning. Because usually our genitals make millions of sperm a day. I don't feel scared or anything. I felt pretty good. Except for waking up with that erection.