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 A Bad Situation, Any advice appreciated
Petrus
post Jan 20 2008, 07:11 PM
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Hey guys,

I put this here because I wasn't sure where else it should go. Before I begin relating a problem that I'm currently having, I want to state that I'm aware that after reading this, there are likely to be a few individuals here (particularly those of LHP persuasion) who will likely simply say that I'm a wimp or am weak minded and need to grow up, etc. That may be true, but at the moment, if you're going to respond to this, what I really need are concrete suggestions rather than simple pejorative remarks.

Anyway, the problem is fairly simply this. I have a tyrannical father and brother, whose behaviours have been a problem for a great many years. Two or three years ago the presence of a considerably more assertive ex-girlfriend was able to deter them sufficiently that after I left home, I was able to enjoy some respite from them. I recently decided to get back into contact with my father, as he is in a new relationship and a number of his life circumstances had changed, to see if I could perhaps re-establish some kind of positive contact. Dad showed up at my house yesterday afternoon, and my brother also arrived on his own a few hours later, which is something that I refused to believe was a coincidence. The only individual I wished to re-establish contact with was my father...and not this particular brother.

My brother initially entered the house due to being allowed in by my housemate, and after a short period left, needing to catch a train back to my mother's house where he is apparently again going to be living. He missed the train, which was apparently the last train of the night, and came back to the house, requesting accomodation for the night. My initial response was to refuse him access, and I attempted to contact the police to request that he be removed from the property. I did this because of the nature of his controlling behaviour towards another brother of mine, my mother, and myself in the past...I was concerned that allowing him back into the house, in even a single instance, would constitute a precedent which would lead to his arrival at the house more often, and at times contrary to when I would wish.

The police refused to assist me...and the reason why I am requesting advice here is because this is a situation that is going, I feel, to chronically effect any evocatory practice which I might attempt to undertake in the future. There seems to be a scenario at least with this brother, if not my father, where he is (or at least could become) able to arrive at my house at any time, and where I apparently have no legally enforceable means of ensuring his removal. The reason why I feel that this would likely end up being a barrier to any evocational work that I might choose to try and do later is because I figure...how can I maintain a position of authority with spirits if I am unable to prevent the predation/domination of corporeal family members?

Aside from anything else, is there a magical form of deterrence that anyone can recommend? I do not wish to seriously harm him...but one thing I would like would be the creation of a scenario where he himself simply does not wish to associate with me any more. I am open to any advice, and thank you in advance.


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post Jan 20 2008, 08:34 PM
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QUOTE(Petrus @ Jan 20 2008, 08:11 PM) *
Aside from anything else, is there a magical form of deterrence that anyone can recommend? I do not wish to seriously harm him...but one thing I would like would be the creation of a scenario where he himself simply does not wish to associate with me any more. I am open to any advice, and thank you in advance.


hmmm...I'm can't think of a particular ritual right-off-hand that would be of use to you in this matter (but then again I'm only but a neophyte myself) but whatever ritual you find, just be sure to do a good divination before hand to ensure everything will turn out in accordance with your will...I'm sure this could've gone without saying but then again i do know how easy it is to "jump the gun" under such stressful situations...I hope you find what you seek...good luck and i hope everything turns out well...


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post Jan 20 2008, 10:05 PM
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It is my personal belief that those that you are to quick to call upon magick in this situation. But I will try not to flame you for it.

Having you own place that is entirely yours is a great accomplishment. It is entirely yours and you assert your control through out it. All the energies in your home are at your disposal. You use them when you evoke whatever magickal prowess you choose. Your home should be a place of comfort and security for you. If there is anything that threatens that then you should do everything you can to maintain that. It will greatly affect your magickal usage. However, you have a responsibility to uphold your own moral sense even if your emotions do sometimes obscure them. I would suggest that you seriously consider the effects of taking magickal action against your brother.

Your brother does seem to be quite lack-luster. I assume that he is an adult and has been one for some time now. He apparently has little to show for that. As it is your home you should affirm your stand in it. This is the place that you control and he is only a guest in it. If problems arise then then you should ask him to leave. Put the faith you have in you magicks and invest it in yourself. Assert yourself, not your wand.


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post Jan 20 2008, 11:35 PM
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Greetings Petrus!

As stated above perhaps the first act would be based in mundania instead of a magical one. What is surprising is the lack of cooperation from the local police department. Do you live in the USA? If so, they MUST respect a call to remove an unwanted guest from your premises. And, if the brother is a total waste-case, then apply for a restrainting order from your local court house asap. This will discourage him and anyone else named in suit from reappearing. If you get such an order, then if they violate the terms of the restraint they will be jailed and/or fined. You must resolve to be strong in this. It is your house and your rules. Don't be afraid of ANYONE...when you say no, you mean it! Be insistant with the police. They MUST help you!

Occultly, you can try for a simple mirror spell...it's effective and can be modified to suit your needs.

Remember, YOU are in charge! Close the door, lock it. Turn off the telephone ringer, IGNORE them. If you find that you need or want to talk with your Dad, meet him in a public place. But remember, if you get a restraining order then you must not break it else the police and the courts will find your complaints frivolous and prosecuteable. Stand firm and resolute. You can do this! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rule.gif)

PS PM me if you need further instructions...I can relate!


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post Jan 21 2008, 01:18 AM
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Yo Bro,
Tuesday midnight recite the mantra for Kali and when you feel the connection, do mention to her about your concern (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
she surely will create circumstances to help you out.


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