Transmigrational incest, Avoiding subtle incest Options

It has been found during some of the hypnotic regressions that your present spouse was your parent some births back or sibling in past birth. It is not impossible to avoid such sinful incestuous relationships if we get ourselves regressed before starting an affair.

May I ask who has found this and why it is such a sinful incestual relationship?

This post has been edited by chaoscrowley37: Jul 15 2005, 12:22 AM

It has been found by many people all over the globe. Among others, hypnotherapist Dr. Bruce Goldberg of Los Angeles has found it.
Incest is sinful because your credit balance in the karmic account gets depleted by it. Bigger you make your circle of sentiments & affections, more positive karma you generate.

This post has been edited by durki: Jul 15 2005, 02:04 AM

(IMG:style_emoticons/default/5.gif) mmm.... I can accept the partner was a child in a previous incarnation ... or a mother was once the partner of her son etc etc ... yes, that's all part and parcel of group soul experience ...

........but it's the karma thing I find hard to get my head round ...

.... always have done as I'm not convinced it is the case ...

Incest etc etc are human terms. In other animal classes mother's mate with their sons etc .... before the invent of religion.... fellow humans had no quarms mating within families ... in some communities it is the only way the human race could have survived ....

It is human nature to reproduce and survive. Taking it literally ... Adam and Eve wise ... we were supposedly only two beings ... a male and a female ... if they had created a family ... how would the human race of moved on from their? Offspring would have had to have gone with each other or with their mother ???

Incest eh?

Where's the karma there then ... we must all carry it ....

As for regressing yourself before a relationship??? Get real ... Past lives are NOT supposed to rule this incarnation ... in my book ...

It is nice to know from time to time ... but to let it rule your relationships???

Na ....

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This is kind of what I wondered...Should my parents (who have been married 34 years) divorce if they found they were brother and sister 6 incarnations ago? I only think of incest as a genetic thing and it doesn't seem that is related to the idea presented here. Considering incarnations cross race and gender lines i don't see how it would be incest. Take for example if I was a chinese farmer in 1200b.c. and my girlfriend was my sister at that time and now I am a caucasian bookstore worker and she is an asian women's studies student...how does this create an incestual relationship since we carry no shared D.N.A. and neither of us recognize our past lives experiences? I have always felt that incest is no doubt a bad idea as it causes problems with the children created (mutations, etc..) but I never really saw a karmic argument in it.

As per Asian schools of thought, humans have not come from Adam & Eve but through countless evolutionary incarnations from algae onwards. In India, code of non-incest is strongest among those from higher castes. Incest means that a person has not outgrown narrow vicious sensuous gratifications and that this person has not evolved enough to have higher faculties of divine love, affections, sentiments et cetera.

Thinking beyond the bounds of post-Victorian morality could be a good place to start. Sin: 'an act that describes any lack of conformity to the will of God'. By thinking along those lines, an individual already has to justify the existence of any such concept as 'sinfulness'. Agreeing with chaoscrowley37, the incestuous act is avoided in (certain) human societies because of the dangers associated with genetic corruption. Assuming the transmigration of souls, how would this reasoning apply to a cosmic spirit?

If taken seriously, this sounds like another, creative, way to generate more sex-guilt and needless anxiety!

This post has been edited by Alekhine: Jul 15 2005, 10:45 AM

'Sin' and 'karma' have not been understood properly. Principle behind karma is the cosmic law of cause and effect or as the saying goes 'as you sow, so you reap'. Sin is nothing but being instrumental directly or indirectly in causing some thing to happen which would bring bad effect individually and / or socially. For example if professor Harry murders his mother, he may have to be born in next birth as a cosmetic helper-cleaner. If William Garfield is involved in incest, he may have to take a birth in sub-human conditions & surroundings.
Coming to biological genes theory, it is confining only to physical level. Astral genes are more important than physical genes. Astral genes in me and a girl who was my mother 7 births back are almost same except for some difference that may be there which is accounted for by varied mutation in the time period spanning 7 births. I take it for granted that members are well aware of the fact that our physical body is to astral body what our wearing clothes are to physical body ( except for some minor differences ).
By the way, if I come to know subsequently after copulation with a girl that she had been my mother 12 births back then I shall take OFf from my work and repent & do penitence for at least 21 days.
It is not impossible to enact a legislation which makes it mandatory for any marriage to be legalized only after a registered hypnotist certifies that the partners in question were not at all the close blood-relations in earlier 100 births. May I pin hopes on American President to take lead in this matter if support is forthcoming from different quarters ?

This post has been edited by durki: Jul 18 2005, 05:50 AM

I believe that when you die, you move on.

I believe that every reincarnation is for a reason.

I believe that throughout the succession of one's lives before Nibbana, The Garden of Allah, Eternity, Heaven, Paradise, whatever - the reincarnations of familiars, family members and friends occurs over and over, in which case "incest", if that is what you want to call it, is bound to occur.

However, I believe that having shrugged off the previous existences through the cleansing fires of death, that the past is done and the present is correct. Obviously if a liasion between immediate siblings/parents/relations occurs in the here and now, that is incest.

But to regard as incest a liason in the present with a immediate family member from lifetimes past is being foolish. We are here to learn and who better to teach us than those whom we know and love the best.

So if I were to meet and fall in love with someone, and who, through regression recognition, turned out to be a sibling or parent, the present takes priority and I would have no compunction but to allow the present to dominate. I do not mean offence to anyone. These are my considerations only.

Momentum of tendencies & propensities from earlier births persists so as to get carried over to this birth. Suppose there is a girl around who unsuspectingly & trustingly looks to me for affectations & paternal affectionate love and we both end up entering into a wedlock. Subsequently, our hypnotist friend tells us that she had indeed been my daughter in previous incarnation. Now we should live the present life without any guilt. Present takes priority. Majority of the marriages in the world will fall apart so as to become null & void if relations of past incarnations get upper hand over relations of the present.

Now we should live the present life without any guilt. Present takes priority. Majority of the marriages in the world will fall apart so as to become null & void if relations of past incarnations get upper hand over relations of the present.

Why would you have an hypnotist reading into an otherwise happy marriage? That might be considered a breach of trust, and in anycase so what? The past is the past. The truth of the matter is the present, and we are as animals.

As animals think only of the here and now, why not enjoy life as an animal and savour the here and now to its fullest extent? An animal does not stop to consider the past ramifications of a moral value of past loves or physical situations.

My opinion is that you cannot avoid transmigrational incest. PERIOD.

"My opinion is that you cannot avoid transmigrational incest. PERIOD. "

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But you may loose out on a love of a lifetime and maybe not know the true meaning of Oneness or the beginnings of the Collective Conscious.

I am with Alafair here. The time is the present and if love stared me in the face I would take it eagerly regardless of a past life's interference. In any case, it would not matter because it is only the physical that is at stake in this instance.

The marriage of minds is what counts and if it had been a sibling or parent whom you were in love with now, just think of the great friendship which you would merely be rekindling, or the healing of great wounds. Love conquers all.

Another point to bear in mind that we are all part of the Oneness already - just facets of a single great gem, or fragments of the same. So we are already committing an "incestuous" act by participating in all physical relationships.

There is something rather sinister and unsavoury regarding this subject. The assumptions of incest traversing eons of time, or universes of being are incomprehensible.

Can one class as incest, a love affair with a man who was the longed for son or brother who was never born in a previous life?

And is sexual RETICENCE in this life to be continually regarded as perversion, and the presumption of latent homosexuality or some other unconformity be endlessly mooted?

Could this discretion be justified as the remnant of a previous life's bitter experience with the seclusion left private as a fragment of memory?
Or unrequited love? What of that? Is that too to be turned against the saddened individual? Think of rape, and other perversions and the humiliating consequences.

My point is that love is a personal and very private emotion and too much is made publically of this desirable state of affairs.

I wonder why the question of sexuality should acquire a dubious tone? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/fie.gif)

Every act has got an aura or field about it. Imagine a colony of 100 houses in which there is one house where a brother and a sister are living as a husband and a wife. This activity of theirs will vitiate the whole atmosphere and incest will multiply. If in one of the houses there lives one hypnotist then he can regress and enlighten the whole atmosphere.

Interesting thread !
I have been dating with a boy for quite some time. If we both approach a hypnotist who says we were brother & sister in the earlier birth then marriage will be in the dock.
What is the best course ?
To me, it seems incest in same birth may be sinful but not the so-called 'transmigrational incest'.

If you think of the big picture in terms of evolution and interrelation of all things, "incest" is a subjective term. How incestual does it have to be in order to be called incest? Because we're all incestual to a certain degree. I believe it's foolish to concern oneself with things like this. It seems a form of "transmigrational OCD". (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

If we both approach a hypnotist who says we were brother  & sister in the earlier birth then marriage will be in the dock.
What is the best course ?

The operative word is "IF".
What does it matter now that you were blood relatives in a previous life.
My advise is to let the past remain just that, and get on and enjoy the present and the future.