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ALCOHOL / DRUG ADDICTION
(10) Buer

ANIMALS
(53) Camio (communication)
(24) Naberius
(62) Volac (serpents)

ASTRAL PROJECTION / TRAVEL (assists with)
(32) Asmoday
(1) Bael
(51) Balam
(18) Bathin (Takes you where you want to go)
(33) Gäap

ANSWERS QUESTIONS
(29) Astaroth
(32) Asmoday
(11) Gusion
(35) Marchosias
(55) Orobas
(57) Osé
(37) Phenex
(20) Purson
(3) Vassago

BUSINESS / HELP ON THE JOB
(68) Belial (promotions)
(15) Eligos (business and financial success)
(11) Gusion (promotions)
(9) Paimon (promotions)
(62) Volac (finds one a good job)
(60) Vapula (help in manual professions)

CHARISMA, WIT, HUMOR
(51) Balam
(31) Foras
(22) Ipos
(61) Zagan

CLAIRVOYANCE
(29) Astaroth
(32) Asmoday

COURT CASES
(15) Eligos

DECISIONS (Help in making important)
(1) Bael
(17) Botis
(26) Buné

FAMILIARS (provides)
(52) Alloces
(58) Amy
(67) Amdusias
(68) Belial
(10) Buer
(69) Decarabia
(33) Gäap (can take from the custody of another mage)
(39) Malphas
(21) Marax
(9) Paimon
(20) Purson
(43) Sabnock
(44) Shax

FORETELLS THE FUTURE
(29) Astaroth
(7) Amon
(51) Balam
(8) Barbatos
(28) Berith
(64) Haures
(11) Gusion
(22) Ipos
(55) Orobas
(20) Purson
(3) Vassago
(45) Viné
(47) Uvall

FRIENDSHIPS (reconciling, obtaining)
(29) Astaroth (obtains of those in power)
(7) Amon
(8) Barbatos
(17) Botis
(11) Gusion
(22) Ipos
(62) Volac

GUARDING IMPORTANT POSSESSIONS
(32) Asmoday

HEALTH / HEALING
(10) Buer
(5) Marbas
(6) Valefor

HERBALISM
(18) Bathin
(46) Bifrons
(69) Decarabia
(31) Foras
(21) Marax (for magick)
(36) Stolas

HONORS / STATUS / PROMOTIONS
(29) Astaroth
(68) Belial
(28) Berith
(30) Forneus
(11) Gusion
(55) Orobas
(9) Paimon

INTELLECT / WISDOM / KNOWLEDGE
(29) Astaroth
(1) Bael
(51) Balam
(26) Buné
(49) Crocell
(25) Glasya-Labolas
(48) Haagenti
(5) Marbas
(6) Valefor
(60) Vapula
(61) Zagan

LEGAL PROBLEMS / COURT CASES
(15) Eligos

LOVE
(32) Asmoday (breaks up relationships/marriages)
(7) Amon
(13) Beleth (works well for bringing love to women)
(71) Dantalion
(15) Eligos
(34) Furfur
(33) Gäap (causes love or hate)
(56) Gremory (works well for bringing love to men)
(14) Lerajé (breaks up relationships / marriages, gets rid of rivals)
(40) Raum (incites love and passion)
(19) Sallos (encourages fidelity)
(12) Sitri
(47) Uvall (brings love to men)
(16) Zepar

MILITARY
(66) Cimejes (patron)
(15) Eligos
(43) Sabnock (protects soldiers and their camps)
(42) Vepar (naval)

MONEY
(72) Andromalius (finds it)
(58) Amy (shows the way to fortune and wealth)
(26) Buné
(40) Raum (steals it)

MUSICIANS
(67) Amdusias

NECROMANCY (working with the dead)
(46) Bifrons
(26) Buné
(58) Amy
(4) Samigina (gives reports on those who died in sin)
(54) Murmur
(24) Naberius

NUMBERS / LUCKY (provides)
(62) Volac

PAST, PRESENT (discerns)
(7) Amon
(51) Balam
(8) Barbatos
(28) Berith
(17) Botis
(64) Haures
(33) Gäap
(25) Glasya-Labolas
(56) Gremory
(11) Gusion
(22) Ipos
(55) Orobas
(20) Purson
(3) Vassago
(45) Viné
(47) Uvall

POETRY
(37) Phenex

POLICE (problems with)
(15) Eligos

SORCERERS / MAGES (Helps with magick)
(2) Agares (destroys spirits sent by an enemy)
(46) Bifrons (works with the dead to assist in magick)
(64) Haures (protects against spirits sent by an enemy)
(33) Gäap (teaches how to consecrate things)
(39) Malphas
(21) Marax (teaches the magickal uses of stones and herbs)
(55) Orobas (protects against spirits sent by an enemy)
(70) Seere
(6) Valefor (assists in magickal healing)
(45) Viné (excellent in many areas for mages/sorcerers)
(62) Volac (provides serpents)

STONES (magickal usage and properties and powers of)
(18) Bathin
(46) Bifrons
(31) Foras
(21) Marax
(24) Naberius
(36) Stolas

STRENGTH / COURAGE
(17) Botis
(66) Cimejes
(22) Ipos
(35) Marchosias (assists in fights)

WRITING
(37) Phenex

Divinition - teaches types of divination below:
ASTROLOGY
(58) Amy
(46) Bifrons
(50) Furcas
(21) Marax

GEOMANCY (Earth)
(32) Asmoday

HYDROMANCY (divination by water)
(53) Camio

OCCULT SCIENCES
(25) Glasya-Labolas

PALMISTRY
(50) Furcas

PYROMANCY (divination by fire)
(50) Furcas

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post Jun 17 2005, 10:02 PM
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great listing kinjo: thanks for posting it.


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post Jun 18 2005, 03:22 AM
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It's nice having a more realistic Goetic list.I vote Kinjo as the new Solomon.Seriouisly gthere should be a book out that tells you these things without the fluff.

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post Jun 18 2005, 06:18 AM
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I guess that by alittle applied work, one could find this out! The information is there, so why complain about the packaging? BUT I WANT IT NOW! I want it spoon fed to me! Wah! Perhaps we can have dial-a-demon service for our cellphones?

Not to Worry Boys and Girls! Now, You Too can Enjoy the Colorful Antics of our very own Canned Demon! No Fuss! No Muss! No Inconvenient Smoke! No More Waiting and Studying! Instantaneous Results! Now! In your very own Kitchen! Yeah!

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post Jun 18 2005, 09:43 AM
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QUOTE(bym @ Jun 18 2005, 07:18 AM)
I guess that by alittle applied work, one could find this out! The information is there, so why complain about the packaging? BUT I WANT IT NOW! I want it spoon fed to me! Wah! Perhaps we can have dial-a-demon service for our cellphones?

Not to Worry Boys and Girls! Now, You Too can Enjoy the Colorful Antics of our very own Canned Demon! No Fuss! No Muss! No Inconvenient Smoke! No More Waiting and Studying! Instantaneous Results! Now! In your very own Kitchen! Yeah!

*disgust*

Why bother can if that's what you think.Why did Crowley learn to write or Mathers start Golden Dawn.It's called helping ,compassion,love.

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post Jun 18 2005, 09:55 AM
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LOL!
I'm terribly sorry...I can't understand much of what you say due to your incomplete sentences and lack of punctuation. Laziness all the way around!
Crowley and Mathers, IMHO, did not perform and write about Magic due to Love, Compassion or Help! Read Crowley's Autohagiography (his own words)... And I'm sure that if Mathers were around today, he certainly wouldn't stoop to answering foolish posts. Also read Regardies introduction to his 'Middle Pillar'. Here he suggests that in order for him to teach Magic that he insisted that his students enter into a regimen of psychotherapy. Not bad advice considering all I've seen here lately... Know Thyself! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

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post Jun 18 2005, 10:03 AM
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I'll put it like this if you don't want things to be simple.Why post here.Any you thing you could say could be found be a average internet user.

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post Jun 18 2005, 10:13 AM
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True....ask yourself that question.
We are trying to have topics for discussion...not wetnursing. If you are a newbie, then research your questions and present them in a manner that doesn't suggest sloth and indolence. Since some here have English as a second language proper grammar and spelling can be overlooked. Do you have a problem with English?
If such is the case, I'm terribly sorry for the English lesson, forgive an old man his foibles. But I suspect that you do not have problems with English...? Needless, I hope to see you post something worthwhile and you get lots of responses. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/bye.gif)


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post Jun 18 2005, 10:20 AM
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It all comes down to this wouldn't you have liked to have had magick spoonfed to you or would you have liked to walk though the walls of pure crap to get where you are to day.

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post Jun 18 2005, 10:37 AM
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I'll pick the wall of crap. It's not the end result of your journey but the way taken... Being handed everything doesn't do much for your understanding of the material, tends to keep you out of touch with your surroundings, etc. The whining of the 'me' generation and its Instant Gratification Syndrome is truly appalling. If you learn the ropes then you will be assured in knowing what you are doing. Half the idiots out there find Hines books and now they presunme that they, too, are magicians.... Do your homework. You'll like yourself for it in the end...


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post Jun 18 2005, 11:19 AM
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Okay people, lets leave the game of personal comment 'ping pong' to one side. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/butcher.gif)

Magick (imho) is not the end, it is just the journey. If you get spoon fed a lot of magick you did not earn then you will lack the wisdom and experience to use it. Certain drugs/entheogens are a route to an 'enlightenment' experience, but they just give you a glimpse and this is not the same as getting there by a long journey of study, meditation and personal change.

Things that are given but not earned lack value. Easy come, easy go...but sadly the consumer society has invaded all aspects of spiritual study. Now you can buy enlightenment for a couple of hunder bucks online... or so they claim anyway.

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QUOTE(bym @ Jun 18 2005, 11:37 AM)
I'll pick the wall of crap. It's not the end result of your journey but the way taken... Being handed everything doesn't do much for your understanding of the material, tends to keep you out of touch with your surroundings, etc. The whining of the 'me' generation and its Instant Gratification Syndrome is truly appalling. If you learn the ropes then you will be assured in knowing what you are doing. Half the idiots out there find Hines books and now they presunme that they, too, are magicians.... Do your homework. You'll like yourself for it in the end...

How did I know you would say that? I agree with all you are saying but don't take it the extreme. This is a real life situation not some mental game.
Imagine this you run a free but private hospital in a third world place. You can't have patient on Sundays and in the long run for various reasons this is okay and actually helps people then one Sunday you have package plasters in your hand and man comes to you and needs a plaster to save his life or he will die in twenty seconds. Do you
A Give it to him.
B Don't it's a Sunday.

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What is the point of this particular hypothetical?
It does not relate to the discussion in any way.

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I basically means this is less fantasical Goetic spirit list not consumer culture. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/drugs.gif)

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The Fates, (I know, I know, don't get in an argument, but that's my nature.) I can't help but to go into this argument. People that like to be spoonfed magick and occult studies, will not have any experience, or wisdom as they get older. They just know what they were taught. Now, I agree with bym, with the wall of crap. Much more knowledge gained that way. But (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sorry_2.gif) a little (IMG:style_emoticons/default/offtopic.gif) about the argument, but I gotta hand it to ya Kinjo, good list of the Goetia demons' (can't think of the right word (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blush2.gif) ) things they do. But I have one question. Doesn't Bael, from what I've heard, help people go invisible too? But anyway good list Kinjo!
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Baal does teach invisibility. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/diablo.gif)


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QUOTE(bym @ Jun 18 2005, 12:18 PM)
I guess that by alittle applied work, one could find this out! The information is there, so why complain about the packaging? BUT I WANT IT NOW! I want it spoon fed to me! Wah! Perhaps we can have dial-a-demon service for our cellphones?

Not to Worry Boys and Girls! Now, You Too can Enjoy the Colorful Antics of our very own Canned Demon! No Fuss! No Muss! No Inconvenient Smoke! No More Waiting and Studying! Instantaneous Results! Now! In your very own Kitchen! Yeah!

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*Hugs Bym* (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) Thanks, this post made my day.
Yeah and Goetia ring tones, complete with the conjurations in Enochian.
"I just started magic a month ago and want to call a demon, what is up with that?
And while I am learning to evoke the demon, I don't want to read particularly, or research, or... oh nm LOL.

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