Ouija Board Alternatives Options

Greetings all,
Well i had posted a question about a 3 legged table method as alternative to the ouijas board ( http://www.sacred-magick.org/index.php?showtopic=322&hl= )in another thread but i decided to put a new topic where you could share about alternatives to the Ouija board.
I have learnt that there are various methods like the pendulum and other methods which revolve aroud making the spirit answer YES or NO.

My previous message was brief but for sake of sharing, i have gatherd the following info for the method and is as follows:

Requirements: dark room (at night ), 3 legged table, 3 person with 1 woman preferably but with time only 1 person is sufficient.. the other 2 act as intensifiers of the will of the person doing the experiment. Normally a bath before and some prayers (even banishing) will help clear and purify the surroundings. May be a protection seal againt evil spirits can be also be used as back up... :-)

Each one will have to sit around the table and lay both hands, palms down with thumbs crossed with each other. the outer fingers of each member should touch the fingers of the others.. the final position will be like a circle made by the hands and fingers.

Each member need to concentrate deeply (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blablabla.gif) and put in the will that and if any spirit who is around should Listen to their call and come...Normally the spirits are those of people who have died in abnormal circumstances i think.... After some minutes, one should command any spirit present under the table to lift the table's leg. If no result, Repeat the process of concentration and commanding. All members should continue with the concentration when the commanding is done. It may be that success will not come the first day but repetitive callings would result in success....

If the table's leg has started to move or be lifted, then normally the spirit has come and the questioning and answering can be done.. normally lifting the table leg once can be YES and twice can be NO...

You can test the spirit by having a number in your mind and asking the spirit ti lift the table that number of times...

Its better to give some offerings to the spirits if a prolonged contact is made and if the spirit is called several times... Offer Bread or something of the sort .. best on friday evenings...
A good advice is not to become too attached to any spirit however kind they are... And Banishing helps here...
Before the banishing a request should be made to the spirit to leave in peace though.

Important, when doing the steps, there should not be evil thoughts as i think it attracts evil spirits... This is my personal thought and I think its the purpose of the prayers.


My attempt with this is recent but not succesful yet as my attempts are few and i have other more urgent things to do for the time.. the only thing that i felt was my own palms getting like inflated and deflated and it gave me the wrong impression that the table was being moved.. its due to blood flow i think...


Well please do add on replies to this thread ... and other alternatives or sucessfull esperiences.
May be there is a small hint or key factor needed to summon the Good Spirits ????

Regards
Mystick

This post has been edited by + Kinjo -: May 25 2006, 04:23 AM

Can anyone (MODs) help me correct my vocabulary over here???
I made a mistake .. Instead of Ouija i have put Quija (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blush2.gif) .. My appologies...
By the way there a great site on Quija oooopppssss... Ouija Boards

http://www.museumoftalkingboards.com

How to make one:
http://www.museumoftalkingboards.com/make.html


Well to give a feedback on my other attemps at doing one of the alternatives i.e the 3 legged tables method, the new thing that i felt is like ants walking from one side of my legs to the other when in fact there are no ants...!!! There may be some pressure sort of thing hapenning on the hands and sometimes it gives the false impression of the sensation that the table is moving...
I'm going to try the normal Ouija method... looks simpler and a planchette is lighter to lift than a table (IMG:style_emoticons/default/bigwink.gif)

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some Quija... ahahahha sorry Ouija board images that you can enlarge and print on A4 paper... If one does not have the GOODBYE text, draw it... as in any magical ritual, there needs a time to tell the spirit to depart... If however the spirit does not want to go away, try cleansing/banishing... i have heard from some people who use the inverted wine glass method that if a spirrit does not want to go, they invert the glass again and end all.... [attachment=199:attachment][attachment=198:attachment] [attachment=197:attachment][attachment=200:attachment] This post has been edited by + Kinjo -: May 25 2006, 04:24 AM

I would suggest the LBRP, BRH then the middle pillar (this being the most important). Do the middle pillar for at least 30 minutes (this is important!). Have all the circles of light visualized then breath in, light come up your back, breath out goes down your front (do this for ten minutes). Then breath in the light goes up the right side breath out it goes down the left side (do this for ten minutes). After this is done feel the aura around you then say your favorite protective prayer. Your aura should be ready for any spirit that you conjure up on the board.


If you are not using the board to contact random spirits but using it to contact a spirt you envoked I do not se the point. In A successful Evocation you will be able to talk to the spirit without this device.

This post has been edited by distillate: May 17 2006, 02:49 AM

If you are not using the board to contact random spirits but using it to contact a spirt you envoked I do not se the point. In A successful Evocation you will be able to talk to the spirit without this device.

Ya sure.. i agree... well my initial thing that i had in mind when requesting some alternatives was to eliminate some of the bad / disadvantages of the Ouijas board...
The major things not to ask a spirit with ouija are about GOD/life expectancy,where is the gold hidden etc etc.. but with the ouija, a bad entity may start telling things on these topics and may even fool someone new to it... Like for instance some evil spirit can try to tell things against God etc etc... or even play with things one might be afraid of in his mind...

With the 3 legged table method, this somehow restrains the entity to only yes and no so that it only has the option of answering to your questions and not to tel you what you dont want to know... IMHO..


But nothing replaces the good old evocations with the Banishings etc.. Here you know who you are calling.. and can verify by asking for signing of the name... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/bigwink.gif) . and you have the authority of the holy spirit with you.

Returning to Ouija board, i found a question on the net refering to how the spirits might know what you have in mind and about future events.. like foretelling fooball matches scores.. some people had told me of this actually and this was why i had done some research on the Ouija as some pretold scores really came true... to get tips for betting games (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blush2.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blush2.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blush2.gif)

If i am not mistaken theres a dimension/area in the spirit world where the knowledge of past/future etc are stored and that the spirits have access to it.... Can anyone elaborate on this.. i'm not that much into it...


there's something else i noted is that why one should not ask where the gold /treasure is hidden to spirits with the Ouija..

"Well according to people into communication with spirits around my country, they say that there one kind of spirits which are those who were once lliving and were those who help to hide treasures/gold.. Theses people were then killed so as not to reveal the place the treasure hidden.. If with the Ouija board you happen to call such a spirit, it will ask for a life sacrifice in return... the spirrit of the sacrified will then serve to continue to guard the treasures when the other one is no longer permitted in this world..."
this is not from me but from what some people claim and may be others could add or refute this.

I would suggest the LBRP, BRH then the middle pillar (this being the most important). Do the middle pillar for at least 30 minutes (this is important!). Have all the circles of light visualized then breath in, light come up your back, breath out goes down your front (do this for ten minutes). Then breath in the light goes up the right side breath out it goes down the left side (do this for ten minutes). After this is done feel the aura around you then say your favorite protective prayer. Your aura should be ready for any spirit that you conjure up on the board.

thats a nice advice... there something more that i think people could add up to increase the chance of calling a good spirit... One could try to feel ones aura expanded and radiating LOVE along.... If you are pure and emit love, the good spirits would certainly be more aware if this when you try to call them... another thing, if you feel some heat or change (increase ) in temperature when calling if a spirit is present, i advise to close all... this can indicate a higher level entity and if its those of the Upside down pentagon entities, there might be some (IMG:style_emoticons/default/bicycle.gif) ... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/diablo.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/diablo.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/diablo.gif) ..

Some advices from http://www.castleofspirits.com/ouijaboards.html

Important Things about Ouija Boards:

1. It is not evil - it's merely a board with some black letters and a planchette
2. If you go looking for evil or demons you might possibly get something unwanted such as that - I've heard of stories of people trying to invoke demons and the like - they suddenly find members of their family having tragic accidents and suddenly developing terminal diseases with no ill effect to themselves - don't do it - it's not worth trying - otherwise be prepared to deal with what you bring on!
3. Spirits that talk through the board are just like you and me - they deserve respect and should be treated well
4. Nothing will come from a board if you leave it lying around - you do not need to burn it or throw it away if you have a bad experience - it cannot work without people making it work
5. ALWAYS include prayers amongst the circle of people involved in the seance to both OPEN and close the circle. It is a good idea to make sure you protect yourself before the seance is begun with a few prayers..
6. Never let anyone be involved in a seance who is under the influence of drugs or alcohol
7. Tiredness will stop the board from working properly - make sure all members of the seance are fully awake and not overly tired.
8. Non believers and overly skeptical people will also ruin a seance, it's a good idea to approach a board with an open mind and a willingness to accept whatever comes forth.
9. Don't all start arguing about who's moving the planchette - this is a common thing - it upsets the mood and some people get very angry and ruin the entire thing. If you feel that someone is pushing the planchette ask them to remove their hands for a short time.
10. DON'T ASK THE SPIRITS TO PROVE THEY ARE THERE - Just think about it for a while - if you ask them to prove that they are there OF COURSE something is going to happen - whether it be rattling cupboards or windows - temperature dropping - things being thrown across the room - movement of other objects - you asked them to prove they are there and they are just showing you that they are.....they can't simply send you a letter in the mail saying "hey - by the way - I was there the other night and this is just to prove it".
    ALSO it is strongly believed that if you do ask a spirit to prove that it is there that you are opening up a doorway to the other side, one that is very hard to close, you are inviting unwanted guests into this world that you may not be able to send home. Once they are here they are almost impossible to get rid of and you might find you have something attched to you and following you around causing trouble for life.
11. YOU ARE NOT BRINING SPIRITS INTO THIS WORLD BY MERELY TALKING TO THEM THROUGH A BOARD - As stated above, you may bring them back into this world by inviting them in (this is not my personal belief) so be careful - don't invite anything in. But just by using a board and talking to spirits you aren't going to pull them into this world and trap them here or anything. The Ouija board is merely a tool to talk to spirits who are all ready here and this does not create some kind of votex to trap and pull spirits back into our own world.

How Does it Work? There are many many theories as to why and how a board works. Psychologists explain it as a simple muscle reflex that makes your hand automatically move and your subconscious mind control the words that are spelled out. Who knows maybe this is so. I know that I've seen unexplainable things which cannot simply be muscles and subconscious minds controlling the planchette. On many occasions I have seen a planchette move around the board on it's own, with no fingers touching it. I have seen dead relatives that people didn't even know they had step forward time and time again, the relative operating the board would look into their family history to find that this person really did exist. So what is it that makes it go, the truth is nobody really knows the answer - there's plenty of theories around but no one can prove them!




Getting Started - How Do I Work A Ouija Board?

• 2 or more people are recommended for using the Ouija board - more than three can be a bit two crowded - the general feeling is that three is just about the right amount for a seance.
• Form a circle around the board with all participating members
• Link hands left on top of right
• Say any prayers that you wish - we recommend the "Point of Light" and Psalm 23
• Place 2 fingers of each person upon the planchette
• Have someone standing by with a pen and paper to write everything down
• Ask questions such as "Would anyone like to come forth and talk"?
• Make sure only one person asks questions at a time which avoids confusion
• Never EVER ask for anything you do not wish to deal with - do not do the typical stupid teenage thing of asking for a "sign" that the spirit is really there
• If the board does not work try swapping participants around and taking some participants hands off the planchette
• The planchette should start off by spinning circles - some say that this is the spirit trying to gain energy to communicate - some say it is the spirit finding it's way around the board.
• If you do not understand what the spirit is trying to communicate to you ask it to either repeat it or ask questions that will clearly define what you would like to know.
• If a spirit appears to be having trouble communicating ask what you can do to improve the communication
• If a spirit points to "good bye" let it go
• If you want to finish the seance place the planchette on "Good Bye" and say that you are now leaving. Everyone should then remove their hands from the board and the table. The board will be closed.

Spirits are just like you and me - a lot of the time they get impatient and cannot spell - they sometimes use letters like U for You and R for are, 2 for to and so on. Quite often they simply use the initial of the person they are talking about (or to) instead of spelling out their name. Be aware that it requires a lot of energy on both sides to have a seance going. If the spirit gets tired they find it difficult to communicate with us and things will not run as well or as smoothly as you would wish. Since so much energy is used a possession or something similar would almost be unthinkable and unrealistic (and impossible) - it just doesn't happen! Should a spirit show up that is overly rude, annoying or appears to have a violent personality communication should be broken immediately - do not attempt to talk to this spirit in any way shape or form - if you keep the board open it will only return and annoy you - it's best that you stop the seance, put the board away, and give it a rest for a while, hopefully the next seance will not bring back this pesky spirit.

Sometimes spirits will show up as liars and deceivers - just like they were in human form - there aren't so many out there like this - but they are out there - don't believe everything you are told - or if you are told something, try to prove it to yourself by trying to find evidence to prove it.

A planchette to use with the Ouija board

cut the hole in the planchette (where is is painted black)... cut the planchette out of the printed paper.. you could use it alone or paste it to glass or any smooth or gliding thing
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This post has been edited by mystick: May 18 2006, 05:18 AM

I've tried it in my youth, but sad to say I wasn't happy with the results. I had been working it with people who well...loved to pull legs so it made it quite difficult. Of course, the results would be different if you're working with people you trust and who share the same views as you.

As for finding out about past lives, I haven't actually heard of anyone able to obtain the information from spirits. Spirits as in deceased humans. Angels and higher intelligences might help you better in that area. I've done past life recall, but I've used meditations and a ritual in order to tap into it. My only advice, don't get too caught up in the past life recall, sometimes they're not that exciting. But, these are my views, don't let them inhibit you.

You might also find interesting talking to spirits about beyond the viel and finding out different techniques to use in rituals.

I've tried it in my youth, but sad to say I wasn't happy with the results. I had been working it with people who well...loved to pull legs so it made it quite difficult. Of course, the results would be different if you're working with people you trust and who share the same views as you.

As for finding out about past lives, I haven't actually heard of anyone able to obtain the information from spirits. Spirits as in deceased humans. Angels and higher intelligences might help you better in that area. I've done past life recall, but I've used meditations and a ritual in order to tap into it. My only advice, don't get too caught up in the past life recall, sometimes they're not that exciting. But, these are my views, don't let them inhibit you.

You might also find interesting talking to spirits about beyond the viel and finding out different techniques to use in rituals.

Hello. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

Well, to be Frank, the Ouija board experiement for me is just to try it once to at least have an idea of how it is...Try some luck with it.... I dont want to do in depth and be a profesional practician of it... The fact of using the talking board method, is not that accurate... I also find that you dont get the exact thing that you want... Even after closing the board, there came some bizarre events... It might be fine in some occasions but in others it isnt under your full control.....
This week was my last experimentation with the Ouija Board... Now i'll be going for The Good old evokation methods.. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/starspin.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/starspin.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/starspin.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/starspin.gif)