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DarK
post Sep 15 2006, 01:27 AM
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I've read many posts about grimoires, especially the Necronomicon, but what about the Grand Grimoire? I've read that its a very effective grimoire and even found a hard leather copy of this book listed at $2,000+. So what's the deal with this book? No one's even posted about it so here it is. I have a downloaded version of the book, though i dont trust the full information, its said to be something similar to the Necronomicon. Any one own a copy? any ideas of what this book is primarly about?

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post Sep 15 2006, 02:04 AM
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It is NOT like the nec. It's a grimoire, what else is there to say. Working with demons. Not really an ideal grimoire to work with. The conjurations in the book can be used (I use them). If you want to work with demons, the goetia is still your best bet, as well as the grimorium Verum.

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post Sep 15 2006, 02:41 AM
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Well i gathered that much about it, but what's so special about it? People seem to make a big deal out of this one grimoire, as opposed to any others.

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post Sep 15 2006, 03:15 AM
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And where have you been reading? Because all the message boards I go to seem to be talking about the goetia. I have the trident library editon of the grand grimoire, I also have the goetia & grimorium verum. Of the three, the grand grimoire is the least workable one.

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post Sep 15 2006, 08:48 AM
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The Grand Grimorie is all about how to make pacts with the devil and other demons. Not many people have found it very practical but I am sure it has it's uses. Most people believe it was written mostly for shock value rather than a source for work.

The high dollar value you mentioned comes from a certain mystique that surronds the book. Mainly due to how difficult it was to obtain a copy of it. Although that has changed now, there are even pdf's floating around the net and paper backs easily purchased.

Basically it boils down that if a certain book has a sinster reputation and is more difficult to find then it has a certain appeal to new comers to the art. Copies of other books like the Goetia and Greater Key etc are very easy to obtain for the simple reason that they work and work well and are a sort of standard for our little sub group.


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post Sep 15 2006, 10:10 AM
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I thought so, thanks for the feed back, knowing what i know now has saved me much money. During searching i came across an organization called "Dragon Rouge"; they all use this Grand Grimoire and i spoke with their head about it, he was one of the many who made a big deal about this book. But now i know that it was merely just another grimoire, nothing that grand about it.

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QUOTE(DeathStalker @ Sep 15 2006, 09:27 AM) *
I've read many posts about grimoires, especially the Necronomicon, but what about the Grand Grimoire? I've read that its a very effective grimoire and even found a hard leather copy of this book listed at $2,000+. So what's the deal with this book? No one's even posted about it so here it is. I have a downloaded version of the book, though i dont trust the full information, its said to be something similar to the Necronomicon. Any one own a copy? any ideas of what this book is primarly about?


First of all, just because a book is labeled Grimorie dosn't mean it's worth much. Few books are truely worthy of this label.


The Grand Grimoire explains a system for entering into a pact with three Infernal Spirits, Lucifer, Ashtaroth & Beelzebuth, through the authority of the Prime Minister of Hell, Lucifuge Rofocale. In this, the demonology of the Grand Grimoire is unique; while some of the chief spirits are identical to those in Grimoirium Verum, and others to Lemegeton Clavicula Salomonis vel Regis, the Grand Grimoire stands alone in the literature of demonology with its central figure, Lucifuge Rofocale. The name 'Rofocale' appears to be an anagram for 'Focalor' of the Lemegeton, according to Elizabeth Butler in her Ritual Magic (1949) who goes on to tell us that "by introducing the name of Lucifuge the author has done a service to demonology for which it should be grateful." In his monumental work Of Black Magic & Of Pacts (1898), Arthur E. Waite states that the Grand Grimoire "must be regarded as the veritable Magnum Opus" and he goes on to say that that Eliphas Levi later adopted the personage of Lucifuge in his works.





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