End Of The Abrahamic Storyline, significance of inanna ishtar Options

the abrahamic storyline has dominated world religious events for the past 2000 years, and came into the mainstream with the advent of first christianity and then islam. as i was raised christian, and have the most knowledge of the christian view of the conclusion of it most of my information comes from Revelation. of course in revelation the word "anti-christ" is never used, but there is the whore of babylon. it is my theory that the scarlet whore is the archetype of inanna ishtar, who was both a virgin and harlot, like the virgin mary, and the aeon sophia of gnosticism who became a prostitute by spawning the material world by having a thought without the permission of the first pure emanation of the Godhead. my question is will there be a reconcilliation with pre-christian (sumero-babylonian, greco-roman, egyptian) western religions with abrahamic religion to synthesize a new religion which will be viewed by christian and islamic fundamentalists as the "religion of the anti-christ". it seems that each historical epoch since the dawn of state civilization has its own belief systems and organized religions. since the enlightenment in the west there has been an increasingly large spiritual vacuum as secularism has been taking predominace over christianity and essentially leaving the responsibility of religious guidiance blank... Robspierre, just after the French revolution attempted to completely resurrect the Ancient religion, but obviously didn't get too far with his Cult of the Supreme Beinghttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cult_of_the_Supreme_Being . In modern times can an ideal like this be resurrected and submitted successfully for the approval of the mainstream? And if the Ancient Religion (the religion of Babylon, Egypt and Rome) can be revived not only would it co-opt abrahamic beliefs (as Jesus is a repetition of the resurrection stories of such dieties as Osiris), but it would also be met with hostilities from abrahamic fundamentalists.

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OurLady BABALON can indeed be identified with Ishtar the Bright and Morning Star. She is a virgin and a whore, who accepts all who are willing to drink from Her Chalice. She is the beautiful NUIT, Queen of the Night Sky. She is Eve, ss well as LYLYTH, the Black Concubine. Just as the contents of her cup, HADIT, is Jesus and Satan, Asar and Set, the Slayer and the Slain. His blood is knowledge (GNOSIS) itself. When these two (Our LORD and Our LADY) join in union they form Baphomet, HERU RA HA, the Divine Androgyne, The Great Architect of the Universe.

You equated the Christ/Osiris connection perfectly. It seems that in this day and Aeon more and more people are comming to realize and accept that their old religions are dead, and that THELEMA is indeed the word of the New Aeon.

Ave Hadit
Ave Nuit
Ave Ra Hoor Khuit

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the abrahamic storyline has dominated world religious events for the past 2000 years, and came into the mainstream with the advent of first christianity and then islam. as i was raised christian, and have the most knowledge of the christian view of the conclusion of it most of my information comes from Revelation. of course in revelation the word "anti-christ" is never used, but there is the whore of babylon. it is my theory that the scarlet whore is the archetype of inanna ishtar, who was both a virgin and harlot, like the virgin mary, and the aeon sophia of gnosticism who became a prostitute by spawning the material world by having a thought without the permission of the first pure emanation of the Godhead.

RAW, crowley, and many others have written on this same subject - in the same way that they compared osiris, tammuz, jesus, chiram, and dionysus together as the same archetypal man who follows the sun through it's course of death/rebirth.

my question is will there be a reconcilliation with pre-christian (sumero-babylonian, greco-roman, egyptian) western religions with abrahamic religion to synthesize a new religion which will be viewed by christian and islamic fundamentalists as the "religion of the anti-christ".

The people who practise only a small part of the sumerian, babylonia, and eygptian systems as a part of their overall teachings today are viewed with suspicion by many christians already. I don't see there being any more of a reconciliation between monotheistic religion and the more pantheistic religions (not counting atenism) of the past than there has been already. If this type of religion did emerge and grew immense in popularity then it would be called another pagan sect until it threatened the churches grip, who knows what would happen then.

it seems that each historical epoch since the dawn of state civilization has its own belief systems and organized religions.

They have all grown out of each other tho', their aren't any mainstream religions that can call all their beliefs their own!

since the enlightenment in the west there has been an increasingly large spiritual vacuum as secularism has been taking predominace over christianity and essentially leaving the responsibility of religious guidiance blank... Robspierre, just after the French revolution attempted to completely resurrect the Ancient religion, but obviously didn't get too far with his Cult of the Supreme Beinghttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cult_of_the_Supreme_Being . In modern times can an ideal like this be resurrected and submitted successfully for the approval of the mainstream?

I'd like to think folk would be open to these "new" ideas, but the fact is loads of folk who follow a religion with devotion or who have been brought up into a faith are unlikely to look at these new systems as anything other than a illuminati or freemasonic plot to turn them all from their "True Path". However, if mankind was thrown into another dark age and the chain binding them broke then I think these ideas would quickly take hold and would become mainstream.

This post has been edited by Heebeejeebees: Jul 31 2007, 07:56 AM

my question is will there be a reconcilliation with pre-christian (sumero-babylonian, greco-roman, egyptian) western religions with abrahamic religion to synthesize a new religion which will be viewed by christian and islamic fundamentalists as the "religion of the anti-christ".

What about the Bahá’í and Unitarian Universalists?
Or modern Christian cultures, borrowing from a hodge-podge of different cultures? There's a few sites that say the Pope's title "Vicarious Filii Dei" adds up to 666.
So... maybe that religion is already here an in plain sight.

Speaking of the divine androgyne the priests of Inanna-Ishtar were known to be the embodiers of the third sex, just like the indian Hijras of present day, and the Cybele priests of Rome. The Whore of Babylon, when sh/e winds her way from sleep will be an androgynous figure... s/he will be the a divine mystery that will shine throughout religious and political history for millenia to come and will assist in the traumatic phases of human evolution we are about to pass through. Carl Jung even outlined and extensively wrote about the divine transvesticism of the Alchemists, the merging of the male and the female to create the sought after elixer and gold ... s/he will be the celestial protectress who is the servant-scribe of the Watchers, the Nephilim, or the Elohim, that will pave the way for the "second coming" . All s/he is waiting on is time.

from book one of the i ching, hexgram 50, Ting - The Cauldron (Wilhelm/Baynes translation):

"Here we see civilization as it reaches its culmination in religion. The ting serves in offering sacrifice to God. The highest earthly values must be sacrificed to the divine. But the truly divine does not manifest itself apart from man. The supreme revelation of God appears in prophets and holy men. To venerate them is true veneration of God. The will of God, as revealed through them, should be accepted in humility; this brings inner enlightenment and true understanding of the world, and leads to great good fortune and success."

That is why the Abrahamic Storyline must come to a climax in this kind of way; the storyline is still open, and to think it will just whither away due to a little secular pesticide is absurd. The source of Abrahamic religion, being the Nephilim brought it to us with the advent of the state in the pre-Sumerian days when "Kingship descended from Heaven"; Utunapishtim became Noah, Sargon became Moses, Ishtar-Sophia has been marginalized and oppressed for too long, and to think events with literarily Biblical implications in world history are not over the horizon is naive.

Look to the stars...

And watch the Gods do battle.

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Greetings,

the abrahamic storyline has dominated world religious events for the past 2000 years, and came into the mainstream with the advent of first christianity and then islam.

**Actually, The Patriarchal Doctrine of Abram becoming the Patriarch Abraham was first introduced into the Hebrew Religion of Judaism.

as i was raised christian, and have the most knowledge of the christian view of the conclusion of it most of my information comes from Revelation. of course in revelation the word "anti-christ" is never used, but there is the whore of babylon. it is my theory that the scarlet whore is the archetype of inanna ishtar, who was both a virgin and harlot, like the virgin mary,

**I am not a Christian, but I do study the Ancient Sumerian Religion.Firstly it is not conducive to mix match various Mesopotamian Religions such as Sumerian and Babylonian as if each is just an aspect of the other. For there are various names for the Gods and Goddesses in Sumerian that change and are vastly different in meaning when compared to their Babylonian later usage. Such as Inanna in Sumerian means (Goddess of the Storehouse), whereas Ishtar in Babylonian describes more of the Morning Star or Venus that rises, and Tammuz of the Babylonians has a different name in Sumerian Text it is Dumuzi. Actually Inanna was married to Dumuzi, and she became also known as a Fertility Goddess. And how you can connect Mary the Mother of Christ as being a Virgin and a Harlot is beyond sensibility. From a Christian viewpoint the Virgin Mary was espoused to Joseph when she conceived of the Spirit of God to bare Jesus, and she was considered without spot.

and the aeon sophia of gnosticism who became a prostitute by spawning the material world by having a thought without the permission of the first pure emanation of the Godhead. my question is will there be a reconcilliation with pre-christian (sumero-babylonian, greco-roman, egyptian) western religions with abrahamic religion to synthesize a new religion which will be viewed by christian and islamic fundamentalists as the "religion of the anti-christ".

**Sumerian and Babylonian Religions are considered as Religions ofthe East, Greece had its Pantheon of Gods and it Temples in the West, and Likewise the beginings of Rome before the Emporer Constatine decreed Christianity as the State Religion had as its Religion Paganism and Polytheism. In my opinion the bible says their are already many AntiChrists in the New Testament writtings, by this it means a state of the church who outwardly follow the teachings of Christ but inwardly they have a different Spirit than the Holy Spirit. There is no one-man going to be raised up and called the Antichrist, and I would challenge anyone using the Old or New Testament to prove the scriptural refferences where they thing that there are references of a Opponent of God which would come in physical form and be called the Anti-Christ. These legends didn't even come about until about 1500 years after the time of Christ.

it seems that each historical epoch since the dawn of state civilization has its own belief systems and organized religions. since the enlightenment in the west there has been an increasingly large spiritual vacuum as secularism has been taking predominace over christianity and essentially leaving the responsibility of religious guidiance blank..

**I would disagree with you completely here. Since we have the modern printing press, the advent of computers and the internet, and various Alternative and other Faith Spirituality Groups becoming free to speak of their beliefs, we have in essence become more spiritual than ever before. It is this freedom of expression that scares the hell out of Fundamental bible thumping christians, that thing every one should follow a herd mentality. Always in fear of the Lake of fire and becoming lost without a guide. In essence today is a time of awakening for many expressions of Spirituality that used to be outlawed by the Church.

. Robspierre, just after the French revolution attempted to completely resurrect the Ancient religion, but obviously didn't get too far with his Cult of the Supreme Beinghttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cult_of_the_Supreme_Being . In modern times can an ideal like this be resurrected and submitted successfully for the approval of the mainstream? And if the Ancient Religion (the religion of Babylon, Egypt and Rome) can be revived not only would it co-opt abrahamic beliefs (as Jesus is a repetition of the resurrection stories of such dieties as Osiris),

**Actually the first person ever recorded to have been hung on a Tree was Inanna in a Sumerian Text called "The Descent of Inanna into the Underworld" and Inanna was a Female.



but it would also be met with hostilities from abrahamic fundamentalists.

**There will always be factions never agreeing with one another. Its the way of Life. Differentiation is a form of existence of the individual, wheich is the begetter of Traditionalism.,

Respectfully, Joseph
(Helel)

This post has been edited by Joseph: Sep 13 2007, 03:46 PM