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Jan 8 2008, 11:47 PM
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QUOTE(Waelceasega @ Jan 8 2008, 04:35 PM) Just a newb question. I've a friend (group of friends, actually) coming under prolonged attack from an individual magician. She has boasted of using all paradigms, including the Necronomicon. My friend is considering using the Nec seals of certain spirits for household protection.
My question is: I think there are some preperatory rites or actions that need be taken prior to doing this. Is that correct. And do they make good protection for a household or an individual? Any advice or help would be appreciated, since I do not want to see her run into problems.
Thanks. First of all, it's important to verify that these friends are in fact under magickal attack. It's certainly a possibility, but it is not, for instance, the sort of thing a teenager angry about her stolen boyfriend can typically pull off. Second, people who use multiple paradigms for magick are good at molding their own psyches and working within their own sphere - usually to their own detriment but sometimes effectively - but typically not good at manifesting change in other people's spheres. It's kind of like using silly string to pierce a glass bubble. Of course, if your friends are also extremely loose in their own sense of paradigm, then it's not entirely impossible in that right. Third, in the past to ah, 'get rid of' troublesome people who believed in magick, especially the overly dramatic individuals who love to be involved in magickal combat at pretty much all times, all I did was tell them I was out for them. That was enough to keep them busy for a long time, and suddenly every negative thing that happened in their life became 'an attack'. IN a sense, it was, but it was the simplest kind of attack - using their own innate natures against them by pressing just the right button. It's best to divine about these sorts of things, preferably by every means available, and then comparing the results. Or, having multiple people do for instance tarot readings on the matter, and comparing results. It's far too easy for one individual with only the basic grasp of tarot that the vast majority of readers can be said to have, to interpret the cards that come up in whatever way that suits their purposes. The symbolism of the cards is, after all, fairly flexible if that symbolism is not an integral part of your paradigm in the first place. Then, only after lots of said divination, then, I would not suggest the necronomicon for protection unless your friends intend to follow that path. The necronomicon current seems to be effective, sometimes drastically so, and that's enticing, however dropping it and going back to it, and my own case and that of others I have dealt with, is often a recipe for disaster. It is a path that is for a priestly class of practitioners, not people who just use it occasionally for some temporary goal. This is part of the reason I am skeptical about your friends' adversary using the necronomicon current in addition to 'all paradigms' whatever that means. The type of person who will say that sort of thing is probably not much of a bother to worry about. The kinds of magicians that you don't want to piss off are the kind who are entirely devoted to their singular path, very good at one thing. A person who spreads themselves over multiple paths may have developed some ability, but is typically not nearly as developed as someone who is devoted to a single tradition of practice. Lighting a white candle, burning some sage, sprinkling some sea salt around the border of the house while saying some heartfelt prayers will probably suffice. Heartfelt prayers, not some scrap of liturgy they lifted from this grimoire or that. To whatever they believe to be the highest power, nothing less deserves a prayer in the first place. I would suggest more specific techniques but don't know the capabilities of your friends. peace
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Waelceasega |
Jan 10 2008, 09:08 AM
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Thank you for your comments and assistance. The "witch" in question is a practitioner with over 40 years of experience. She is a self-avowed Satanist, works with Goetia, and is the type who practices strictly negative magick and harms people merely for sport. Yet she boasts of having a firm grip on Catholicism as well. (IMG: style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) My small circle consists of several fledling witches and one with more experience, but in the Celtic tradition and Druidry. I, myself, have practiced various ceremonial traditions, and some Enochian, but am really more of a mystic in these later years and have had no opportunity or inclination towards anything "black". I find myself caught up in this (and I am ever the skeptic) because of my love for my best friend, who seems to be the primary target. I've considered Camael, Michael, and others as a way to combat the negativity that she has managed to throw our way, but am hesitant to get overly involved. My friend was perusing the Necronomicon Spellbook and found several entities and seals that are recommended for protection. Being somewhat eclectic, perhaps we could begin working with Inanna and Marduk first, and then venture further into the other spirits? What a quandary! We just want the malicious and unwarranted attacks to stop.
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Jan 10 2008, 02:32 PM
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Well, if they decide that they are going to use the necronomicon, rather than working with the spirits, I would recommend calling the Watcher - for just the individual interested, or for all of them, if they are so inclined. Then, in the necronomicon proper - the magick tends to work better if you have begun working with your watcher - they can use this spell forthcoming. Now, there are two things about working with the necronomicon that many 'modern' practitioners don't take into account. The first is that they must take the sacrifice to the watcher seriously. Nettles and unlevened bread (pita bread or some variety) is what I and many others have used. The second is that to make the book work most effectively, it is best to hand copy it into one's own book, in it's entirety. However, if they summon the watcher, and work with an earnest attitude, then the book will work for them, though in what way and to what degree, is questionable until they make their own book.
Here are two spells from the book: And if thou knowest the names of they who would harm thee, write them upon figures of wax, made in their image, upon which you will make the Curse and melt them in the cauldron you have set up within the MANDAL of protection. And the Watcher will carry the Curse to them for whom it was uttered. And they will die. And if thou does not know of their names, nor of their persons, save that they seek to harm thee, make a doll of wax like a man, with his limbs, but with no face. And upon the face of the doll write the word KASHSHAPTI. Hold the doll over the flaming cauldron while saying fiercely over it: ATTI MANNU KASHSHAPTU SHA TUYUB TA ENNI! (Aht-TI kash-SHAP-tu SHAH too-YOOB TA en-NEE) (it should be rhythmic)
and then drop the doll into the flame. From the smoke that rises from this action, you will see the name of the sorcerer or sorceress written within it. And then you will be able to send the Watcher to bring the Curse. And that person will die.
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Or thou mayest call upon ISHTAR to protect thee from the spells of sorcery. And for this, the MANDAL must be prepared as always, and a figure of ISHTAR be upon the altar, and incantations made to summon Her assistance, like the following incantation that is ancient, from the Priests of UR: (that is, the mandal of calling, seen below) WHO ART THOU, O WITCH, THAT SEEKEST ME? Thou hast taken the road Thou hast come after me Thou hast sought me continually for my destruction Thou hast continually plotted an evil thing against me Thou hast encompassed me Thou hast sought me out Thou hast gone forth and followed my steps But I, by the command of the Queen ISHTAR Am clothed in terror Am armed in fiercesomeness Am arrayed with might and the Sword I make thee tremble I make thee run afraid I drive thee out I spy thee out I cause thy name to be known among men I cause they house to be seen amoung men I cause thy spells to be heard amoung men I cause thy evil perfumes to be smelt amoung men I unclothe thy wickedness and evil And bring your sorceries to naught! It is not I, but NANAKANISURRA Mistress of Witches And the Queen of heaven ISHTAR Who command thee! And if these worshippers and sorcerers still come at thee, as it is possible, for their power comes from the Stars, and who knows the ways of the Stars?, thou must call upon the Queen of Mysteries, NINDINUGGA, who wilt surely save thee. And thou must make incantations with her Title, which is NINDINUGGA NIMSHIMSHARGAL ENLILLARA. And it is enough merely to shout that Name aloud, Seven times, and she will come to thine aid. And remember that thou purify thy temple with the branches of cypress and of pine, and no evil spirit which haunteth buildings will cause habitation to be set up therein, and no larvae will breed, as they do in many unclean places. The larvae are enormous, twice as large as a man, but do breed on his excretions, and even, it s said, upon his breath, and grow to terrible height, and do not leave him until the Priest or some magician cut him off with the copper dagger, saying the name of ISHTAR seven times seven times, aloud, in a sharp voice.
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The last bit there is simply a bit to describe general purification of the ritual space to prevent astral nasties from accumulating and/or carrying out the wishes of those that might have sent them, as well as protecting it from the influences of 'evil' witches - that is, it is to be understood that the individual is most protected at that space, and their power is most vulnerable there if the assaulting witch were to take revenge.
Here is the mandal of calling that should be used: [attachment=688:attachment]
There are two in the book. This one represents two levels of existence (physical and astral) interlocked, thus manifesting on the physical plane what is carried out on the astral. The other one is better for communing with spirits.
A word of warning, some people have a very adverse reaction to the energies of the necronomicon. Not everyone, for some people it is transcendental for them. The powers there may test them at first, so it is worthwhile to face down any possibly frightening phenomenon, but if they persist for too long, and the presence of the watcher does not lessen them, they may want to reconsider.
peace
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