Man is a Genetic Experiment, Your Views On Cosmic Guinea Pigs Options

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Mankind is a result of continued genetic experimentation between various universal consciousnesses throughout the galaxy ......

Mankind created as a slave race for a highly evolved race of technologically advanced beings on earth .....

Physical expression being nothing more than a game/experiment where ideals and theories can be tried out .....

When the human soul leaves the physical body it becomes a free radical energy which can then increase its vibration to the wavelength frequency which is known as the spirit world .... spirit merely appears as disembodied light on this frequency because we cannot perceive the vibration of that realm with our limited senses ....

Extensive discussions with survivors on that frequency (ex-humans) indicates there are numerous levels of dream-like state where the survivors lose their human-ness before they return to their true state ... a state which is an existence in a amoeba like body .... which is on a similar world to earth on this vibration except the colours are far more vivid and communication is via direct connection ....


Opinions please (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wizard.gif)

How does this technological state manifest itself? If these higher beings (who live on earth) do exist, and exist as energy beings, then surely they have no need of technology per se?

Or are you referring to knowledge? There's a subtle difference after all, between technology (which is the physical use of knowledge) and knowledge itself.

(IMG:style_emoticons/default/ac42.gif) mmmmmmmmmmmm .... need to use some grey matter to answer than one ....

The fact they are here ..... means they have applied their advanced knowledge ....
The fact they have created this matrix-like state we know as earth ..... means they have applied their advanced knowledge!
They fact we were created in the first instance by their genetics ... means they have applied their advanced knowledge .....

For the higher beings to exist at all on earth ... in a lower vibrational state .... means they require some type of technology .... their own body vehicles, being of a much faster vibration. cannot be manifested on this lower vibrational plane (universal law won't permit it) ... so to be as us means there has to be some type of technology producing holographic or thought form vehicles ....

mmmmm, (IMG:style_emoticons/default/tn_dizzy002.gif) ..... need to ponder more on this!!!

Interesting thoughts, but I think I may not have been entirely clear (my fault for not bothering to think more clearly). Technology isn't just the physical use of knowledge... that would mean that opening a door is technology, which is of course, somewhat silly. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) What I should have said is that technologies are the tools we create based on our knowledge.

Given that energy can interact with the "physical" world, they wouldn't really need tools to do what they do. In effect, they'd be naturally equipped to learn what it took us years to devise the tools to discover.

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I catch your drift ... but I'm pretty certain that their 'technology' is of a type we cannot comprehend in our limited senses state ...

(IMG:style_emoticons/default/blush2.gif) However in saying that they have attained the knowledge to implement SUPERHOLOGRAMS for one .... a type of hologram which can penetrate a mind through the co-ordination of many holographic impulses using a different quanta; where a quanta is the irreducible minimum component of electromagnetic radiation - light of any wavelength or frequency ....

By use of superholograms we humans see the outside world and we interact in its labyrinth-like corridors .... and through superholograms we can be made to react in ways which is not programmed into our consciousness ....

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There is also the Seraph-computer ... a thinking entity which administers knowledge perpetually in the lower heavens by being part-mind and part-machine.

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Sources please! You refer to things that most have no idea about. Holographic images are not the mechanism used. Pure mind doesn't require a stepdown in order to manifest, it manifests directly mind to mind. And even that is grossly exagerated.

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Superholograms

In essence Man exists in a
garden of consciousness creating and receiving knowledge from a higher
template and recorder cell through a superholographic process.  The
superholograms within man are not dependent on the presence of waves
even though they are readily described by the equations of waves.
This non-dependence of consciousness holography on physical wave
production is important to understand in approaching the origin of
neural holographic processes.  Here the light wavelengths recorded in
the brain, are considerably longer than those of physical waves and
can therefore be carriers of information in small amounts - even in
the form of spatially interfering holographic patterns from other
sources.

(IMG:style_emoticons/default/00000047.gif) My view is that our reality is basically a holographic image which has been transported into our consciousness like a veil .... the inbred conditioning from the age of 3 teaches the logical brain to convince us that this around us is real and solid .....

The veil can be over-ridden by training the creative side of the brain to become master of the logic side .... however the creative side of the brain has been programmed to function on imagination ... imagination is fantasy therefore make-believe and anything that stems from this side of the brain is not worth placing into reality ....

However from my experiences of direct communication over the last 30 years I find that higher frequency connect via the celebral stem at the top of the spine .... they place pure thought into my consciousness through what I call the canal of imagination ... mind clearing disciplines have been developed between the signal senders and myself that clear out the illusory dross which is fantasy and make believe ...

Through these processes - because I am ever so curious and I have to be in control of the mechanisms of contact as it is me who is in the firing line - that these entities (who I called The Throng in the early years but I know understand to be part of the same group oversoul as myself with me the volunteer to be the earthbound one in these desperate times) have explained the entire process to me .... including the use of what is known as superholograms .... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/004.gif) I do not doubt the information relating to this process ... I will be given a theorem or a paradigm and then the physical proof will be manifested in my life years later .....

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I have been an unconscious channel often in the last two decades .... the 'entities' I link with are as real as you and I ..... I have had so much proof because I have trained myself to be the world's worst critic ... so I demand that they prove to me all the while .... I am ridiculed for demanding a name as names limit a pure energy into the vibration of the name ... so they gave me a name once ..........AMAH .... which I found to mean a Breast Nurse ... apt really I gain knowledge by feeding from the nipple of the great universal mother (joke but name isn't ....) ...

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I have been a professional direct voice medium for the last 15 years .... I have amazed my partner of the last eight years with the absolute accuracy of when I would be getting clients .... I often say to her 'they are giving me a rest for a period of six months' and the readings will go from busy to none at all for six months ... I will then say to her 'they say I'm ready now and are sending me two clients in the next day or two' then out of the blue the next day the phone rings and there is a booking for two people .... or I will say "they are sending three people for a reading" the phone will ring the next day and a booking for three will arrive; I will then say one of the three will cancel or not turn up because they are telling me it is so (I hear no voice it is purely direct voice with the contact using my mind voice) .... and hey presto two turn up and the third doesn't!!! It's been like that for years and it is quite a natural process in the house for me to discuss with the wife my conversations with them (I have nicknamed the contacts Brother Lucas; Brother Martin; Brother James etc etc) ....

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Through direct voice input I have been implored to make entries into the forum .... strange because for years I have been instructed on the art of silence and obscurity!!!!

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I digress from the original 'Man Is A Genetic Experiment' somewhat .... but I am trying to emphasize the use of higher intelligent technology ....

I understand what you are saying. And I don't. Given my incredibly short time on this planet. The top of your brainstem is the seat of your 'old brain' and doesn't correspond to higher brain function. You bandy about the terms such as 'superhologram' with flippancy. It must be tough to try to explain some of the mechanics of such things to us more human scientists. Perhaps you can channel or even digest your channelings into forms that me, as bottom feeder, might be able to relate with.

Do you understand that if what you're saying is true, then you must also give us the time and tools to see what you are saying? Some of what you say is incomprehensible in that it is using modern words to describe things that they are not meant to.

I confess ignorance. The source given for superholograms is, again, theory. In that article, if what 'yoda' says is true, then he/she/it has just solved most of what we don't know about the universe, gravity and DNA! Yahoo! Why are they allowing scientists, taught at Universities, to continue to grovel our way through the crap and muck when they've already SOLVED THESE QUESTIONS???

You, yourself, owe it to the race as a whole, to come forward and illuminate our minds! Please! For selfish reasons I implore you! I'm dying here...the kidneys are done, the diabetes has shut me down, I can hardly walk and my lungs are slowly failing. HELP! With this knowledge I can be renewed and live in a world of enlightened bliss, striving yet further into yet unknown mysteries. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/please.gif)

(IMG:style_emoticons/default/rofl.gif) Hey good posting!

I'm enjoying this ... food for thought etc ... I kinda knew it would get like this when I started this thread ...

(IMG:style_emoticons/default/13.gif) About the brain stem bit ... I know nothing about how the different parts of the brain work ... I just describe how it happens with my own phraseology and then let others pick up the pieces which feel right to them ....

I am contacted by an entity which I sense behind me or to my left or right .... I then become aware of a very subtle shift in vibration behind me at the top of my spine ... then ... I have direct thoughts which come to the surface of my consciousness ...

It is a process which I have become accustomed to for at least 20 years ... I have never questioned it scientifically ... but you say 'old brain' but isn't part of the reptilean brain housed at the brain stem?

(IMG:style_emoticons/default/001.gif) I just love linking with the scientific field as it is a little like to halves of the whole becoming whole again ....

I know I use modern words to describe something which it isn't meant to describe!

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But you try putting something into words .... which you've been using for ages ... which you know is taking place .... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/33.gif) ... which is scientifically impossible but you know is there!!!

Let me see 39 minus 5 is 34 years ... so I've been in this 34 years; living a life of obscurity .... hidden away .... being told constantly by entities you know now as friends .... you must remain obscure .... experience this all on your own ... until the time comes to step out of the shadows ... and meet with others the same

The world is a strange place .... much stranger than man can really comprehend .... I can appreciate what a wonderful job the scientific world does but I know there are many thingsthe scientist is never meant to explain ... the higher dimensional worlds are one .... for just as you scientists push forward into those realms there are higher dimensional scientists who are pushing in the opposite direction trying to thwart your efforts! Its the way it is .... I can see it perfectly from my perspective ....

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This post has been edited by Mr_Merlin: May 6 2005, 03:33 PM

Would I be right in thinking that the "superholograms" are some relation to the holographic universe theory?

In which case, then the superholograms are nothing but a specific method of interpreting something else. For instance, we perceive some matter as solid - but no matter is solid, it's just that solid objects are held in a rigid electromagnetic latice.

Similarly, you seem to be suggesting that the mind itself functions in a holographic sense (multiple layered projections)... which is also implied by the holographic universe theory.

Interesting...

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Let me quote The Keys Of Enoch a moment:-

We must understand that every molecule form in the human body and every molecular form of motion, structuring human thought, throws off a radiation of light. This light code structure does not dissipate but continues to be stored in the form of a unique light spectrum.

Every molecule within the body continually projects light pulses which build up a light code structure which is beyond the physical relativity. This code structure is used to reshape the next consciousness evolution.

We are formed out of thoughts which feel the weight of space and time into which being is cast (these thoughts give you your own unique space and time in the drama of incarnation)

So if our whole reality, aka the universe a the equivilant of a hologram then mankind is one of billions of experiments? Or how does the rest of the universe, out side earth factor into this scheem?

Personally I could believe a higher sentient life form could have and is manipulating our race, they can even exist on an alternate reality. But I doubt they created the whole of our reality. Rather they just found a suitable spot (their version of a peetree dish) and set up shop. The sheer magnitude for creating a race for slaves or whatever purpose on the scale of the entire universe one begs the question why? If they can make all this, not just our percpetion of the planet Earth but the existance of the entire universe, why do they need us as anything more than a mutil-cellular microbial life forms? I say microbial because we are bacteria on a drop of liquid and dust orbiting a mass of fire. So maybe our purpose is a genetic weapon? OR terraformers? Our life spans are only 75-100 years. A highly advanced life form who may have existed for billions of years could live for an unknowable amount of time. The life of an individual human may seem like days to such a race. The existance of our species may seem like a few months to them. Maybe our cultural archetypes stem from a time when humans were in direct contact with inter-dimentionals or aliens. We have some evidence in the form of cave paintings, myths and even stories from the bible. I image that to us "civilized" folks primitive man had no other way to explain flying objects of light or radiant beings than as angels or flaming chariots. So rather than be rational and say well maybe they did experience somthing lets look for it we decduce that they were just primitive peoples explaining "natural" phenomenon. As we get more and more advanced I think which ever is true it'll get harder and harder to deny. BUt if aliens made us who made them? And to what purpose have they done this?

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Mankind is a result of continued genetic experimentation between various universal consciousnesses throughout the galaxy ......

Mankind created as a slave race for a highly evolved race of technologically advanced beings on earth .....

Physical expression being nothing more than a game/experiment where ideals and theories can be tried out .....

When the human soul leaves the physical body it becomes a free radical energy which can then increase its vibration to the wavelength frequency which is known as the spirit world .... spirit merely appears as disembodied light on this frequency because we cannot perceive the vibration of that realm with our limited senses ....

Extensive discussions with survivors on that frequency (ex-humans) indicates there are numerous levels of dream-like state where the survivors lose their human-ness before they return to their true state ... a state which is an existence in a amoeba like body .... which is on a similar world to earth on this vibration except the colours are far more vivid and communication is via direct connection ....


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What's to fight about? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wacko.gif)

I can agree to some extent on this part that we are experiments etc.... there were controls or catalysts that were sometimnes sent in this experiment, like for instance Jesus came to help humanity to prevent itslef from collapsing whereas einstein came here to speed up some inventions...
Miracles and Things like UFO sightings also can add up to this theory...
However if we really are experiements, then i assume that we are failures coz the trend that currently humanity is following will surely lead to the destruction of earth very very soon...

There's something that is a bit off topic here but i would like to add is that, from various prophesies and realities of life that i am getting to know, i firmly think that God or (highly evolved race that you are talking about) will surely do things this year to prevent this sudden rise in criminality... in late 2006... well thats something like a 6th sense telling me... time will tell.


There something that make me laugh a bit... if your above theory is true,
then big scientists we think we are; experimenting on mice etc, dont realise that we are ourselves like these mice...

I can accept the creation of mankind as an experiment or a slave race, by some much more evolved race, or some individuals of that evolved race. But I believe that in such case, they have modified, to suit their purposes, an already existing species, which wasn’t necessarily, less evolved than our present state.

In case of an experiment, genetic or anything else, I can’t imagine for what reason they would do such a thing, since I can’t suppose what might interest them to ascertain.

In case of slave race the only reason that I can think would be, absorbing energy from us. I don’t think that a cost-productivity equation, would favour the creation of a species project for any other reason. I mean, what else could they possibly want from us, in this case?

In any case I believe that such entities co-exist in the same environment with us, being noticed only when they choose it, our three-dimensional reality, with time as forth dimension, being a small fragment of their multidimensional reality.

There is a book called "The Uplift Wars" and it deals with our society in intergalictic space and our ability to chemically "uplift" any species to a thinking and reasoning being just like humans. So it is very easy for me to accept the possibility that we (the earth population) is one extraterrestial teenagers science project! LOL (IMG:style_emoticons/default/banana.gif)

Does anyone here believe in the Raelian movement? The main idea is that man was created genetically by physical Elohim who look almost exactly like us, except from an other planet...and they were in turn created by other scientific "Gods" etc.

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Does anyone here believe in the Raelian movement? The main idea is that man was created by genetically by physical Elohim who look almost exactly like us, except from an other planet...and they were in turn created by other scientific "Gods" etc.

I've heard of them. I saw a show, and the founder of the 'movement' was babbleing...He gave off this sleezy con artist feel, though.

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As for mankind being a genetic experiment...I don't know, too sci-fi-ish for me...Although everything is realy sci-fi-ish, we just don't care since we see it everyday. lol.

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If man is a genetic experiment, then why the fuss over eating genetically modified food? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/cc_confused.gif)

Does anyone here believe in the Raelian movement? The main idea is that man was created by genetically by physical Elohim who look almost exactly like us, except from an other planet...and they were in turn created by other scientific "Gods" etc.

I've heard of them. I saw a show, and the founder of the 'movement' was babbleing...He gave off this sleezy con artist feel, though.

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As for mankind being a genetic experiment...I don't know, too sci-fi-ish for me...Although everything is realy sci-fi-ish, we just don't care since we see it everyday. lol.

The problem with the "followers" of these types of "groups" (Raelian, etc.) is that they have
plenty to say but have absolutley no evidence to back anything up.

I can accept the creation of mankind as an experiment or a slave race, by some much more evolved race, or some individuals of that evolved race. But I believe that in such case, they have modified, to suit their purposes, an already existing species, which wasn’t necessarily, less evolved than our present state.

The evidence from sumerian sources supports what you say, going along the line of reasoning that people like sitchin offer about the anunnaki/nephilim and about humans being created from what was here previously (the red soil), there's much evidence to suggest that modern man was created as a slave race to mine metals from the earth for the anunnaki's homeplanet (marduk) as well as the situation now with astral feeding and this fake slave-reality in general --- which Mr_Merlin knows having read the Books of Enoch (the Watchers).

To Mr_Merlin: the idea that the universe is a hologram first finds its first expression (to me at least) in the emerald tablets, when hermes said "as above, so below", I believe he was talking about a hologram but lacked the terminology which we now have and understand. As to what happens to our bodies after death I disagree, currently very few people have cohesive memories of their past lives and lack all the normal human abilities that we once had --- being able to manifest objects at will, not being limited by gravity or other beings (all of those come under the term freewill). Who is broadcasting the frequency that stops normal memory? Who is pressing the spiritual amnesia button and holding it down?

Also, I don't think we ascend into higher octaves of energy or dimensions at death Mr_Merlin, there's a 4D astral scenario or prison which people's souls are sent to after death, their memories are wiped and they are thrown back down into this reality, hence the unfeeling and nature denying humans around today.

This whole thread is fascinating.

I think when we consider the idea of mankind being created by beings of other planets/dimensions/times etc., we have to take into account a 'gray area' of theoretical technology that those beings might have. Mankind may have been altered genetically from another local or foreign species (and we in turn discover that old species and determine we 'evolved' from it, when maybe only a few were altered and introduced to the gene pool) but not necessarily with 'physical' science as we understand it.

A higher dimensional 'species' makes the most sense to me, taking this particular line of thought. Imagine that a species exists in more than four dimensions, and has sciences which also correspond to that/those extra dimension(s). It's almost inconcievable how they might achieve something like altering a species to whatever state we're in now. If those manipulations can only manifest, from our point of view, in four dimensions then what we percieve is some phenomenon that is a normal part of reality to us. There's also no way to calculate, from this number of dimensions, what the scale really is between this level and theirs. We could be a simulation, evolving a program over what could be only a moment to them. We could all be playing a popular video game that challenges 5-D beings by depriving them of their higher powers.

I have thought before that it seems to me that if mankind evolved directly along a biological line, that by the time we evolved the intelligence to want to know where we came from, the knowledge had been lost for hundreds of thousands of years. For all "Adam" knew, he was just like his father, only different, and his father never asked. When no one has an answer, something has to be said. So, a creator is invented. We came from the Creator - he made us a long time ago.

That may have simply been the most logical answer, according to the logic of the era.

Personally I like the idea of a scientific God - I think that whatever the source of All creation is, it is inherently intelligent, although that intelligence must be so completely alien from our own that we couldn't possibly grasp it from these dimensions. We naturally want to simulate our own intelligence - so it makes sense to me that our own intelligence could be a simulation of a simulation, ad. infinitum, up to the first simulation that the Divine Intelligence itself initiaties based on the template of it's own consciousness. As above, so below.

I had a dream once that I woke up from my life and had been testing a theory in some sort of simulation. I only ever remembered fragments of it, but I remember sitting in a chair of some sort and suddenly sitting up and laughing as though I had just understood some sort of really subtle joke.

It does beg the question of what it is the higher beings that created the simulation want to prove, what they're looking for, etc. Maybe they just want to know where they came from, or understand evolution in fewer dimensions - maybe their trying to define their own fifth dimension by removing it from awareness in a simulated environment. Or whichever dimensions - it depends on how many dimensions of consciousness you identify, I suppose.

peace