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What are everyone's views on the Hollow Earth Theory?

Places like Agharti ... etc ... etc ???

This post has been edited by Mr_Merlin: May 10 2005, 03:29 AM

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I don't know much on Hollow Earth Theory, although I've heard of it - care to give some details?

I for one do not think the earth is Hollow, with a hole all the way through the center. I beleive its more like a giant cave or geode in which the theory of inner space might or might not be in existence. Its been theorized also that the "angels" that came down to live amongst us live there and its lush and tropical.

The few times Ive read about Hollow earth, I saw satellite imagery. I saw the "hole" and I saw the military base posititioned near to it. My question would be why would there be a base near it with a supposed fence around it if there were nothing there discover?

Another thought I have on it is that the military would more or less have to be able to control the weather to block most the satellites from capturing imagery of it. Which if its true, would explain the lack of many satellite photos.

Perhaps the theorists are correct?.?.?. But then again for me the jury is still out until I have proof one way or another...

http://skepdic.com/hollowearth.html

"The belief in a hollow Earth had some adherents in Nazi Germany. There is even a legend which says that Hitler and his chief advisers escaped the last days of the Third Reich by going through the opening at the South Pole."

http://www.crystalinks.com/hollowearth.html

"In the late 17th century, British astronomer Edmund Halley proposed that Earth consists of four concentric spheres and "also suggested that the interior of the Earth was populated with life and lit by a luminous atmosphere. He thought the aurora borealis, or northern lights, was caused by the escape of this gas through a thin crust at the poles."

http://www.v-j-enterprises.com/holearth.html

"According to Mr. Bernard (see diagram above) our world is hollow, with the crust of the earth being 800 miles thick. There exists two openings at the North and South Pole, each hole having a circumference of 1400 miles wide. At the center of the earth is not a molten core but an inner sun which is six hundred miles wide and is 2900 miles from the Inner Surfaces. The diameter of the lip at the opening at the poles is 1200 miles long, thus a person can not see the other side of the opening. "

As a fan of E.A.Poe I do have an appreciation of the fictional possibilities of this theory.

"As a fan of E.A.Poe I do have an appreciation of the fictional possibilities of this theory."

OMB! Too Right... Wrong (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) but right... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) LOL

So the basic idea is that the earth is like an egg with only gas to fill inside? Well what if the inside isn't hollow like with gas but filled with liquid? Not much farther than what think already but maybe matter at a great enough pressure acts more like liquid. That the only solid portion of earth is its shell, the crust. That could extend for hundreds of miles. But beneath this is nothing but highly pressurized matter that is liquified. This at least makes more sense to me than a gas interior.

Actually the center core is almost crystalline like matrix of nickel/iron that is not liquid due to the vast pressure.... but the Hollow Earth Theory has always been a favorite story since I was a boy. There have been numerous satellite photos and human expeditions that have thoroughly combed the poles without falling into a '1400 mile' pit. But wouldn't it be cool...? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/mf_bookread.gif)

"The belief in a hollow Earth had some adherents in Nazi Germany. There is even a legend which says that Hitler and his chief advisers escaped the last days of the Third Reich by going through the opening at the South Pole."

Sounds vaguely reminiscent of At the Mountains of Madness by H. P. Lovecraft.

Soz .. for my lack of follow up ... been very eventful last few days and I've not had chance ....

I've read the legends ... formulated my own ideas ... but scoured the internet for sites etc

Apparently, It was Sir Edmund Halley's (Halley's Comet fame ... I think) ideas which lead to the concept of gigantic Polar Holes. Then after time much of Hollow Earth theory was to revolve around this single idea. Polar Holes were seen as the single definitive proof that the planet may or may not be hollow.

There have been rumours for thousands of years that there is something going on deep inside the Earth. The great Plato wrote of a God who lives inside the Earth who is responsible for our religions; the Hindus have extensive scriptures which describe a subteranean world, while the Tibetans believe that the First Dalai Lama of Tibet received his instructions from the ruler of an Underground Empire who at times would even come out from the Earth and visit the Tibetan monasteries. In more recent times, there have been rumours of some NAZI's escaping into the Earth, and of Admiral Byrd flying into the Earth.

There is also a strange tale from the early 1900's told by a fisherman, Olaf Jansen, who claimed he and his father had sailed into an interior world via a Polar Hole which led into the centre of the Earth.

In the 1960's a number of UFO enthusiasts set about trying to show that UFOs came out from inside a Hollow Earth. They even published NASA photos which they said showed the existence of a giant hole at the North Pole. These are all very strange tales and most of them are based on the thinnest of evidence and often originate from mysterious and unreliable sources.

Can the Earth be hollow and somehow we don't know about it?

So much has been written about it ... so much of it likely to be garbage!

Look at Hollow Earth which will show a gif animation of a huge hole at the north pole ....

I am intrigued by the whole thing ... I read a rare book about Agharti many years ago ... can't remember title or I would put it here .... I've tried to piece together my own theories ... but intriguing things like land sighted beyond the north pole ... fresh water .... trees and similar debris ... a pilot who was going to publish his findings after a flight over the north pole into a temperate land but mysteriously crashed together with his manuscript ... etc etc ... convince me ...

The very spin of the planet will create a centrifugal force will throw all matter to the outside ....when a planet is its molten form, spinning into existence before it is cooled, how can it remain solid to the core?

I will post more on this subject when I'm not quite as tired ....!!!! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blush2.gif)

This post has been edited by Mr_Merlin: May 12 2005, 03:52 AM

http://www.seawana.com/conspiracy_hollow_earth.php?page=2

"It is currently believed that all the planets in the solar system (yes, this includes the Earth) were created by the process of accretion. This is the clumping together of tiny grain sized particles of rock and ice that were orbiting the sun. As these particles collided, they formed larger clumps which eventually collided and got bigger and bigger.

After some time, the size of these planetesimals became large enough that there was enough gravity to pull them together rather than just colliding by blind chance. The largest probably pulling the smaller bodies towards it. As this planetoid gets larger and more smaller bodies collide with it, it melts from the vast amounts of heat created by each collision.


Could this be true?

The final step is differentiation of the planet where the heavy objects sink and the light objects float. This gives Earth its heavier iron-nickel core (which causes a magnetic field for those of you keeping score) and lighter oxygen-silicon crust.

When all that is done, radiation of heat occurs which allows the planet to cool from the outside in thus causing a solid crust to form.

It is believed that any molten planetoid of a size greater than about 310 miles (500 km) has sufficient gravity to cause gravitational separation of light and heavy elements thus producing a differentiated body. The Earth, at around 8,000 miles in diameter, is about 25 times this required size. Therefore, it definitely would have been molten and gone through the differentiation process.

The only possibility to form a hollow planet would be if the planetesimals were in exactly the right locations to have come together in a hollow shape in the first place."

Damn, pesky old science debunks yet another crackpot theory (IMG:style_emoticons/default/00000008.gif)

Not exactly... there's a possiblity that centrefuse gravitonal forces (Forces of gravity that stay in motion) Could cause this diffusion of light and heavy elements into different clumps...

Newton's laws do state that this is possible to an extent... Mightt need to research Newton more...

(IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) Well ... I'm more than comfortable with accepting that the earth is hollow ... and there are civilsations below our feet ...

I'm a firm believer that there are some things in existence which cannot be proven ... are not meant to be proven ... and never will be proven ....

I've read many books on the legends of the ancients over the years ... and there is a common thread in 99.9999% of the ancient civilisations ..... and that is the fact advanced beings and races have come to the surface world from under ground to aid surface people's ...

We live in a society in which it is overtly weighted to require absolute proof on matters ... and to insist that this is the FIRST time man has been as technologically advanced as he is now .... I accept the 'proof' of one book and one book only and that is the Akashic Records .....!!!

Religion and wealth have changed the true records of the earth to read how the most influence on the planet wish it to read .... and most of it is lies ....

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It depends on your perspective. If one were thinking in terms of the actual physical make up of the earth into the core then there is a factual explaination. However if you wanted to think of Ants as civilizations under our feet. Or the microscopic protozoa as the Angels that are living in the "Hollow Earth". Then one could with poetry describe any pertaining situation. The Truth is. Everything in the Universe continues infinitly Outward and Inward likewise. Even my heart has at times been hollow. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

1 word - magma

how would it get from wherever to the surface?

if the hopi are right and the earth has stopped and restarted in the other direction, not just once but many times, any large inner space would have collapsed

I neither judge the hopi tradition or your belief in the inner world - perhaps in the multiple dimensional earths there exists one with the inner world...

Wonderful! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

Please feel free to live with your opinion as I am free to have mine.

From what I understand of the creation of planetary masses ... any disintegrating mass is thrown outwards by centrifugal force to 'orbit' a central energy source. This will leave the interior hollow in the same way that clothing spins around a hollow centre in a washing machine. The hollow cavern is beyond the magma layer of the planet which is like a crust on the outside surface of the planet. Basically the very spin of the planet creates centrifugal force which will throw matter to the outside. When the earth was in its molten form, spinning into existence before it cooled, it would have been impossible for the planet to remain central to its core. It is against all logic and all laws of force.

Research of the hollow earth suggests the earth's outer crust goes down some 800 miles and beyond that the earth is hollow. The forces of gravity pull towards matter and so those on both sides of the earth's land mass, inside and outside, will be pulled by gravity towards the land and neither will fall off.

I can imagine a several centuries ago if I'd posted on a forum that the earth was round the same type of reponse would have been received about the earth being hollow (IMG:style_emoticons/default/fie.gif)

The centre of the earth's gravity is not at the core of the planet but at about 400 miles down ... the centre of the outer land mass and so gravity pulls equally on both sides.

The entry point to hollow earth are alleged openings at both poles. This makes sense the power of the centrifugal force in the period of the earth's formation would have been far less in those regions.

At about 70 to 75 degrees north and south latitude, the earth begins to curve into the polar openings to the inner earth the hollow earth theory suggests. It will be so gradual that those who have claimed to experience it have no idea they were entering inner earth until they begin to see land that did not appear on maps. These openings have been estimated at 1400 miles across and around them is a magnetic ring.

These entrances are covered by clouds most of the time and the airspace restricted by law. When explorers searching for the north or the south pole reach the magnetic ring their compasses point straight down and they believe they are at the pole. They are in actual fact at the magnetic ring which encircles the poles.

The light and warmth inside the earth is said to come from an inner sun. The sun is believed to have been created from the original fiery core around which the forming earth was spinning.

If the earth is hollow, so it must be that all other planets and comets are hollow too. There is a famous photograph of Donati's comet which illustrates perfectly this theory as it shows a hollow centre to the comet.
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This post has been edited by Mr_Merlin: Nov 8 2005, 02:19 AM

I accept the 'proof' of one book and one book only and that is the Akashic Records .....!!!

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I have also heard that earth has got a hollow portion inside it and that some people who hate war live there. It should be possible to verify it if some spiritually advanced person can voyage deep into the bowels of the earth and probe.

It should be possible to verify it if some spiritually advanced person can voyage deep into the bowels of the earth and probe.

Jules Verne?

Well science states that a planet forms over eons gathering dust particles then how can the earth be hollow?

Maybe some entities are living in the hollow part of earth.

Maybe some entities are living in the hollow part of earth.

if the calculations for mass for the moon, the sun, and the other planets, are accurate according to observation, and we apply the same school of calculations to the earth, then we can pretty safely assume that we know the mass of the earth. But, if the earth is hollow, then those calculations must be wrong - there must be some other explanation to why there is so much gravity here if that gravity is not the culmination of far more mass than what we are left with if the earth is hollow. So, that's one bump in the road. Are we right, or are we wrong? Gravity acts differently very far away from our solar system. Maybe there is dark matter in the earth's core? Producing gravity without mass?

Also, might the legends of people living underground just come about from people found to be living in caves? After all if a cave were deep enough, people might assume that whoever is living there comes from the core of the earth or just 'under ground'. While we don't know everything, scientifically, it would be foolish to simply cast aside what we do know and assume that we are totally ignorant all together.

Also, there is the earth's magnetic field. Where does it come from if it is not generated by he molten iron core spinning around as it does? The shape and quality of the field doesn't reflect coming from a shell that seperates the surface from an inner, hollow interior... so we must be wrong about that too, even though we manage to apply the same knowledge to technology that works...

I can't find anything convincing about the hollow earth theory anywhere. Either no one is doing good research, including the people who theorize on it, or it's just so far impossible to prove.

eh, I was bored and found this thread.

peace