Hypnotherapy And Magick Options

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What are peoples opinions on using hypnotherapy in order to aid with Magick in general? It has various applications that could be helpful, in creating a 'Magickal personality', in rooting around ones mind and past lives to work out karma to giving cues to deepen meditative states and what have you.

Have been told, as part of the grade I'm currently cooking within, that I should seek out a psycotherapist (how ever thats spelt) and by chance a friend whos a hypnotherapist (think I got that one) has got in touch asking if I'd like to go through therapy, which is easy to spell without a prefix.... would consider it to be the effect of some magick if she decided not to charge but as its likely to cost around £1500 I don't think deity has forced fate to work our meeting .lol. Perhaps her bank manager paractices something.

Several authors have views and opinions on the use of hypnosis in Magick, the book 'Yoga and Magick' advises against it, seems that the practice isn't favourable with yogis and such as the book, 'autobiography of a yogi' also speaks against it. Each state that allowing someone else loose in your mind lessens your own grip on your mind and as a result faculties... ''Rehensible''... was the word used in the Wieser text .lol. But you then have W.E.Butler who promotes its use saying that it has a wide degree of applications and that a magician should learn how to use hypnosis in order to aid his or her work.

The I Ching has so far done me no favours in commenting on its effect on ones development, varying in its readings from Peace to its opposite, still, each reading with a slightly negative lean in its changes so I post this and speak to you to garner opinion.

Whats your honest and most valued opinon on the topic?

Peace
Mr Mchawi

This post has been edited by Mchawi: Apr 4 2010, 06:14 PM

probably as far as the yogis go, in their eyes this life and previous ones is illusion, so why bother pursuing an illusion

i love self-hyp-gnosis, but i'm told i'm not a good subject for hypnotherapy (as i have too strong a will?) - to me there is only NOW, which can include both the past and the future depending on which way i look, but this is another one of those awful disassociating practices where your humanity slips away and you have to work so hard to get compassion back

1500 whatevers is a lot of money to be told something about a past which, more or less, holds no real value to the present - i say if you want to know your past, know the self that is you now, as you are an amalgam of all that you were and you will also be changing in the future - a thousand people could examine your lifetimes and not get half the insights you will from examining it yourself

anyway, that's my 2cents - nagick stems from desire, and backed by the whole view of the inner self, the self that you are now, and knowing that self intimately is what's important, right? - so i suppose you could learn something about yourself from an examination of your physical past, but what about your spiritual past?

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ideas flit by like migrating butterflies, you watch them flap by and disappear, and there is always another that will come by eventually if you just slow things down a bit

slower, slower - head for the reedy bank of the time-stream

oh look, in this past life you were a peasant, covered in shit and shanked by some guard for supposedly getting shit on his horse as you passed, but you knew in your heart that you got no shit on his horse, but on him, and he never even noticed it

slower, slower - you are climbing up the bank, feeling the tug of the water of time less and less

balance is balance? - ooo in this other past life you were a nasty little bastard and made much bad karma! - your vicar says to pay him a dollar a day and you'll be forgiven - that matrix energetics guy says to mentally go back in time and poof change what you did back then to good! - but is the balance restored by good, or averaged out over time? - can past things even be changed or atoned for somehow? - does it change them back then?

slower, slower - you are on an island in the time-stream, and around you flows the past and the future

have you done something mean today to balance out the good things you did yesterday? - is the balancing of karma generating karma? - this could go on forever!

slower, slower - you are still pulled back into the river by the flowing current of time, you can smell it, feel it licking at your island, trying to dissolve it

entropy destroys creation - its as simple as that - the secong law of thermodynamics, the more you put things together, the more they tend to come apart - the real battle is not in past times time, or righting good or bad, it is a timeless battle against entropy

slower, slower, until the river stops pulling at you, and is no longer dragging you back in

time has stopped, but just as you think of it, an interruption throws you back, choking and gasping, into the river - dammit, its the telephone! - here, its for you...

I've read some of the same things about hypnosis doing injury to the spirit. I'm not entirely convinced of this, but find that meditation has many of the same benefits and effects that hypnotism is supposed to have. I've sometimes wondered where the division between guided meditation ends and hypnotism begins. In any case, I have had a couple of people offer to hypnotize me but haven't trusted them enough to take either of them up on it. I was always afraid that they'd have me clucking like a chicken or give me some post-hypnotic suggestion that would be embarrassing or something. Most of the guys I hang out with would be likely to do things like that. If it was a professional then they would probably be trustworthy, but these were knowledgeable amateurs. If I had to spare coin to pay a professional then I might seriously consider it for a past life regression.

Does seem to be a cultural line drawn in the sand someplace, has been around for a long time in various forms hardly new. in Africa past lives are important, attached to ancestor veneration and such things, the past is very important there, know that those old priests I've stopped hanging around with for a while use it but they're meditative based so as Goibnu said its already close to what they do.

Her demanding 1500 thingies includes her teaching me self hypnosis, I note that she's a non magical person and perhaps prone to making mistakes that way... I mean, to follow Esotericas point... you were abused by your overly authoritive teacher, in one life it made you cry in the next it made you determined... no diffrent in regards to this life, remember my uncle was helping clear a building once, took a sledgehammer to a wall and half the building went with it, perhaps our life lessons aren't meant to be altered swapped with something fuzzy for our own convinience lest a wall fall with an otherwise special teacher or two trapped in the room with it.

One thing Ive noticed with magick is that non magicals can bump into you when they're drunk at times, they can become intoxicated enough to become magical and see into other levels of reality, catch a glimpse of your aura and bounce off it, has happened to me a few times... now, someone rooting around in your membranes...???