Astral Fight!, We all have kick some butt over there! Options

Hey there! I'm Mark and I've been APing (astral projection), for so long that i can't tell!
We all have passed through low planes and we all had to fight some horrid creatures over there!
So far the hardest to beat was this lolianimealike girl at the little park of my garden
what have you fight with?

By the way
since 1 or 2 years ago, I've been able to "physically" feel everything in my dreams, being astral projection or not
What ever it is, since a little needle to a hammer in my hand, I've been able to feel it
what is this? Some kind of "you got way too used to it, kid" thing?

feeling stuff in dreams is fine - i do it all the time

as for fighting stuff in the astral? - you attract what your subconscious is thinking in the astral, not what your conscious mind is thinking - if you are just going along thinking about flowers, but if your subconscious mind expects an attack, then you will be attacked - too much physical (tv) fighting and drama attracts astral fighting and drama!

why do people find being different so disturbing, and want to fear or destroy the things that are different from them? - i would rather know them and not fight, just accepting them the way they are

this is why in advanced work we learn to master the ego, so we can use discernment but do not judge differences and accept the entities as they are rather than in our image of what they should be

anybody else feel stuff in their dreams?

This post has been edited by esoterica: Apr 30 2010, 05:45 PM

A woman with calico hair. She morphed into a calico cat at will. She was quite a fighter. Loved to just loom around me in cat form from time to time.

Feel stuff in our dreams? Do you guys mean lucid dreaming? It’s quite common to become conscious in dreams, a person experiences that at least once in their lifetime. It’s a technique shamans use to experience shape shifting and communing with ancestors.

Feel stuff in our dreams? Do you guys mean lucid dreaming? It’s quite common to become conscious in dreams, a person experiences that at least once in their lifetime. It’s a technique shamans use to experience shape shifting and communing with ancestors.

I would say that the world of dream and the astral realm, and even the waking worlds all bleed into one, after a while. You can detect whiffs and notes of each in every state of mind, and that's arguably where a lot of stuff occurs.

Onto OP~ Who do you think you are to impose your idea of what has the right to exist or not. I personally don't feel there is such a thing to begin with, but I think its strange that once you deem something 'horrid', everybody should have the right to kill it.

This isn't really a matter of ethics for me, its a matter of approach. I have no qualms with self righteousness (everybody has to be to an extent to have a degree of agency) and killing things, but the problem here is, who do you think you are to impose your opinion upon something (as opposed to simply just going out there and killing for the sake of it). Does your opinion somehow make your actions more reasonable? It honestly sounds like you're killing stuff for kicks, and it's simply natural that we do that, but I was just curious: why do you wanna do it?

This post has been edited by kaboom13: May 3 2010, 10:56 AM

Feel stuff in our dreams? Do you guys mean lucid dreaming? It’s quite common to become conscious in dreams, a person experiences that at least once in their lifetime. It’s a technique shamans use to experience shape shifting and communing with ancestors.

I guess this is what im doing all the time i always feel stuff in my (sometimes crazeee) dreams. fighting the ptb right now should be the good fight at this moment.

The most disadvantageous "astral fight" I got into, was not in a 'lucid dream'. And it resulted in my having to be taken to the emergency room.

The event took a lot of the wind out of my sails. Prior to it, I was quite self confident, even to the point of being cocky. Afterward, I was left rather deeply reevaluating my cavalier attitude towards spiritual encounters. In simple terms, I was knocked out of my body and into an OBE state, and then my body was attacked while I was outside it. The attack was surprisingly brief, lasting only seconds, although the conflict itself had been escalating for a week. The result was excruciatingly painful, and quite expensive. What's more, I could have been killed just as easily, and I knew it. It kinda reinforced the understanding that spiritual conflict is not a game, nor something to enter into lightly. To be honest, I may have "had it coming". I was left rather deflated, and it took me about 6 months to fully recover my self confidence, this time stopping short of letting myself become cocky.

Ultimately the encounter was a positive one. As Nietzsche says "that which doesn't kill me, only makes me stronger." and it certainly held true for me in this case.

This post has been edited by Kath: Jun 10 2010, 03:03 PM

Never ran into anything astral projecting. The hardest thing for me to get past at times is the wall in my room. And one time, there were these black chairs just sitting there in my room, and I could tell there was something not-so-good about them, but I got back to my physical self pretty quick.