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Starlit Knight
post May 27 2005, 03:56 AM
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I'm gonna post this in bits in fear of the whole thing disappearing . I'll edit as I go.

I used to have a recurring dream of a powerful force holding/pinning me down whilst I was dreaming , this continued from when I was a kid to my early years to perhaps my mid teens. Its been easily over a decade and now they have come back , it started again two nights ago.

The first time this happened I cannot remember how I came to be in that state , nor the sequence , but I felt a strong force of some sort pinning me down . It bordered on overwhelming but not enought so as not to totally immobalize me , I was able to move , although only slightly but enough to struggle against the force and perhaps overcome it , (I cannot clearly remember) .

It was two nights ago after I meditated and went to sleep . Having this dream and waking up from it only about an hour after falling asleep although it felt much longer , I was to my surprise wide awake and fully alert , so I had a cigarette and went back to sleep. No Dramas , I woke up feeling energized which is not the norm for me.

Last night I meditated and went to sleep at about the same time to have the same dream . However this time I remember most of it .
Their was a girl in her late teens to her early twenties dressed in a grey-white nightgown standing on the ledge atop a fireplace in a colourless , bland room , almost like that of the movie "The Others" , cleaning a grey wall , the room was cold in its tone , feeling and unfurnished . She was caught up in what she was doing and did not pay me any attention or did not notice my presence .Their was something familiar about her , an Ex-girlfriend perhaps she had long free flowing hair , but the familiarity , I dont think ended their ,come to think of it she came across to me as a servent girl , or what have you . Then the dream would switch.

Now , Im faced with two sprite/dryad like beings asking me to sing in return for sensual favours , the scene is mostly faded from my memory but I do recall a T.V. screen in the backround . The Dryads would appraoch me to sing then they or others would be revealed to me on the screen with acts or scenery turning my blood hot. The last time they approached me they asked me to sing them love songs , so I did , I only do a bit of Karaoke now and then , so I'm not a singer by anyones standards. As I sang a love song , the dream switched back to the girl in grey.

As I looked up at the young lady , and given the way I was feeling I asked her to come down from the fireplace. From then onwards the dream suddenly stopped as I was pinned down by a great force , this time much more potent than the previous nights , I could not move or open my eyes no matter how I tried , I desperatly wanted to break free from the hold that this force had over me , I cannot recall how long I struggled , but I woke up to Notice that I'd only been asleep for about an hour , and that I was once again wide awake and alert. And yes the time was about the same , however I felt that I'd once again been asleep much longer.

Some Facts.
When I was a baby we lived in a very large house passed down from grandparents.
It was only about three years ago , that my mums suspicions of having black magic cast against her were proven true , I had black magic cast against me as well , even though i was only a kid and innocent . I was a spaced out kid until I reached high school when things started coming into focus .
Somebody obviously had it in for us , My mum was accused for being a Russian Spy and so forth during the Chinese Cultural Revoution amongst other lies.

I'm trying to find a link to this house and the black magic . The same individual who got busted in the act of placing a stone and ash at our door step has not only moved to the same country but same town , half a world away.
This has to stop. ALL Helpful suggestions are welcomed.

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post May 27 2005, 06:55 AM
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Greetings!
I have just read an interesting Treatise on Astral Projection by Robert Bruce. Some of what you are describing is touched on in his paper. We have it in the Library. It may be of some help...? Just a thought... I'm usually terrible at convoluted dreams, so I won't even attempt to unravel yours. Please check out the paper...sometimes whilst we undergo a projection we become semi paralyzed. You could be experiencing this stage of projection...? Anyhoo, check it out! Good luck! I'm sorry I wasn't more helpful... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wacko.gif)


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post May 27 2005, 09:07 AM
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this is a complex dream.

I don't think you are being attacked in your dreams, however you could be under attack.
The imagery of your dream is something which your mind made up to point out some things to you. It may be a warning of some sort, it could even show you a way to fix some problems.

Try to see how the dream applies to your life, it may provide you with some clues on some important matters that may or may not be connected to the black magick once done to you.

I suggest to free your mind and analyze the dream without any prejudice, no thoughts about black magick, just plain dry analysis. It may still eventually point to the black magick done, but this way you will be certain that you can paint the whole picture.


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post May 27 2005, 06:39 PM
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I can't decypher it, but maybe this will help:

Familiar person.
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Temptation at a price
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Familiar person.
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Trapped.

Those are the points I got from your dream.


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post May 27 2005, 07:55 PM
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Thank you Bym ,
I read parts of what you suggested and almost started laughing out of how true and how much sence it made in respect to certain things that have happened recently . Especially interesting was about the trance state and 100% concentration , less than a week ago I during meditation , for lack of a better way of describing the experience , crossed over. Instead of focus being difficult , I was able to do it with minimal effort , the thoughts that would normally take me away from my focus were no longer as intrusive , I stayed in that trance state for a while , and decided that next time i'd go deeper. This was attained after a very deep state of relaxation and concentration was reached. It took what felt like at least an hour. From what I read about astral projection , it would explain the paralysis that I experienced in the dream. However , I dont understand why I could be experiencing this during my earlier years. I have been told that I'm gifted by a Crystal Healer/practitioner who's groups I used to attend , after a powerful experience during a guided meditation . Perhaps it was something I was'nt aware of , thus laying dormant for all those years.

Thanks Smoking fox ,
Some personal matters in relation to my temper and how I've forgotten to express them appropriatly need to be solved . I am especially intrigued by how the dream jumps back and forth , I have some a thought about this and it does relate to the relationships I have with members of my family. You mentioned that I could be under attack , I'm not exactly sure what you mean.

Thank you Zahaqiel ,
I like what youve done here . After thinking about the relationship I have with a certain member of my family , everything fits except I'm no longer trapped in the one where my help is shown no appreciation.

Their still are things about this dream that I dont fully comprehend .

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post May 28 2005, 12:35 PM
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by attack i meant the aftershock of the black magick once done against you.
I assumed you thought the dream was completely related to that attack, and i gave the advise that perhaps there was more to it.
However my assumptions were wrong, so i apologize.


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post May 28 2005, 10:13 PM
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No your quite right the black magic has caused a mix up of priororities , causing me to make stupid decisions that I cannot believe now . It could be that I was just young , but , for certain something was not normal . Even when i got good grades in high school , my focus on the reality around me was blurred , even to this day .
sometimes reality shines thru , but most of the time its just blurred thoughts . Whenever I feel that i'm getting back on track an intrusion reveals itself . I feel that I'm walking in many directions at once. I do push myself , the knowledge of an improvement in my art is reasuring.

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post May 29 2005, 03:02 AM
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interesting.
reality does not exist on its own, its just perception trough 5 or 6 senses.
Then these perceptions are interpreted. You can interpret most things any way you like, with some training.

I sometimes feel as if I'm bound, as if someone stripped me of something when i was small. Perhaps its a common problem, perhaps that is why some people are seeking on forums like these.

either way, there must be some answer to many problems in your dream, since a recurring dream is often very important. I don't understand your dream though, its a riddle to me.

Also, the way some images made you feel are most of the times very important.
Did the Grey wall seem dull to you, did you want a white wall, a white dress. Was the fireplace hot, did you feel uncomfortable by its heat.

Perhaps the girl on the fireplace was you, but another part of you. Perhaps she was an icon of something, like all your past relationships.

The driads are probably icons as well, of something love-sensual related, perhaps in combination with the girl something may be clarified.

Then the force pinning you down seems highly interesting, it could mean you do not have control over the matter, and that you highly dislike the lack of control.
perhaps you are in conflict, a choice between the driads and the girl.
Perhaps ...

I don't know actually, the images and the feelings you got must be considered using the full knowledge of your life, which only you have.
They are highly relevant to your own mind, and may mean different things to you than to me. At least that is what i think.


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post May 29 2005, 03:44 AM
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Smoking Fox ,
Its been two nights without the dream , both nights I have gone to sleep at a later time . Last morning some hooligan kids knocked on my door/window waking me up in the middle of the night , I never bothered , just joked to myself about them being door to door salesmen .
I am constantly telling entities to F off astrally , I'm a magnet to this form of bullshit. Extreeem stress in the past has brought on this sideeffect .
I perceive things as they are in my way , but when I realized whats going on in my head at times is like WTF , what am i thinking .
Past relationships have all been a farse , nothing trully based on love and effection , as for me I've got a lot of growing up to do .
I have a appointment with a Sage , Reiki practitioner amongs other things coming up , this man has great powers of healing , I want to thank you very much for your efforts and time . I have worked with him for a number of years , mending from a past of drug abuse , I hope to gain more answers from him .

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post Jun 6 2005, 11:36 PM
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I say the purpose of your dream is to get over being a victum... It appaears that you've been victomised in the past, and the entities involved in this are here to remind you of that...

I'd say it's a test for you. To overcome your weakness in being a victum... I would guess that the dream is asking you to take fate nito your hands and start "dising it out" instead of taking it from others...


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post Jun 7 2005, 07:02 PM
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Yeah Uni one , the knocking on the window has continued , its starting to really give me the shits . I want retribution on the knocker , a curse or something to let the person know that its not nice to be awoken at that time .
Your interpretation of the dream appears correct , but the thought of me wondering around , knocking on windows seems a little pathetic .
During the day I feel this thing at the back of my head , its uncomfortable its like a blockage of some sort . The first time this happened , it was my neighbour . Idont now what to make of it , perhaps you or someone else does , making it impossible for me to go back to sleep , his girlfriend found it to be amusing . this happened a while ago , its starting again , every F#$^^% DAY . I can only remove the intrusion thru medtation or sleep. But its a bit there all the time .


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post Jun 20 2005, 10:00 AM
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Confront it... It's probably a spirit or an enity that's getting a kick out of your pain...

Whenever spirits mess with me... I gather all my anger up at one time (doesn't matter where or how...) and just shoot it out at my target... let yourself go... Whenever something unexplaned is bothering you, just get angry at it... Seriously.... That's how I mainly kick astral parisite butt....

Your emotions are a useful tool... and a valuable weapon...

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post Jun 20 2005, 06:29 PM
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Black magick can be tricky. While usually the caster is more geared towards ruining one's life out of spite rather than their being. But the individual can let the black magick affect their being as well. To a certian extent the symbolizism of the house and its curses resonate into your dreams.

How I interpreted your dreams: The grey house is a place you'd prefere to not be. The bland and dull women may be a feminine aspect of yourself you don't wish to address for fear of what you might find or reliving past pain. The reason why it appears a young person in a dull house is because it could stem from your past relations with someone. The familiarity and dullness articulate the emotions that this person stired in you. A dull, colorless, loveless relationship structured around poor communication and sensuallity. The dryads getting you to sing for pleasure could represent having to jump through hoops to get what you want out of relationships. Relationships that could be loveless or otherwise dull, unfullfilling, even draining. What else this undesirable aspect could represent is not wanting to commit to a relationship, a broken heart, a disconnection from your emotions, underlying issues with a female family member, insecurites with women. The dryiads, perhaps as even a spiritual intervention, could be trying to show you this. The dryiads may or may not be actual entities. They could be personal creations of the picture perfect, fairy tale, aspect of the issue(s) at hand that doesn't exist but you wish did. While the dull woman and dark house are the complete opposite and may represent how things are as they probably have been. Being powerless, pinned down and struggling are signs that you feel there is no hope or that you're swimming up stream. So the issue this dream represents is something that will be difficult to confront and or deal with. The dryads having you sing may actually be getting you to sing about something related to the issue at hand. I would try to figure out what you were saying while singing. The trick is that you may remember the song as part of a verse in a real song you know. But the words you spoke are different and relative to the representation of the dream itself.

If you can induce the dream, as suggested already, confront it. Do what you did before. Go to sleep at the same time do whatever you do to make the dream occur. But this time focus on a mantra like "this time I will find meaning" or something that may stir your dreams to show you something you may find a better understanding of. If possible try to remember what words you spoke while singing.

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