Welcome Guest ( Log In | Register )

 Pros And Cons About Enochian, why some say is fake and others say its real?
brokenhearth
post Sep 7 2009, 01:37 PM
Post #1


Neophyte
Group Icon
Posts: 21
Age: N/A
Gender: Male
Reputation: none




Im rather confused about enochian and what it is meant to do and how it is supposed to be used
why some say is fake and other say its reall?

User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post


 
Reply to this topicStart new topic
Replies(1 - 2)
Xenomancer
post Sep 7 2009, 06:00 PM
Post #2


Rode off into the sunset...
Group Icon
Posts: 362
Age: N/A
Gender: Male
From: AKRON AKRON AKRON AKRON AKRON AKRON AKRON AKRON AKRON AKRON
Reputation: 9 pts




QUOTE
Im rather confused about enochian and what it is meant to do and how it is supposed to be used

It's meant to be a magic language, set aside from the energies of any other language.

When you speak day to day English, there is mundane power behind it. Set aside a language for magic only, and you have that kind of energy behind it.

Think of it as preventing "cross-contamination" of energies.

You use them by vibrating them, or chanting in a monotone/limited pitch change.

QUOTE

why some say is fake and other say its reall?


Because some people do not believe, and some people do.


--------------------
IPB Image
¡HA HA! ¡ESTOY USANDO EL INTERNET!
-Never learn the Art of Sword before the Art of Dance. - Celtic Proverb
-Even with spiritual power, an unchecked ego will only seek to deify itself. - Frank MacEowen
-One cannot traverse waters without causing waves. - Xenomancer
-I find it interesting that we as scholars of metaphysics have no problem discussing the intricacies of the threads of reality, but when it comes to the things that really matter, we forget them. - Xenomancer
-This world is your home. We have a mix of everything here. If you want better, make better. There's no rule of going elsewhere for the tools. That's what magick is about. - Xenomancer

User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post

Faustus
post Sep 25 2012, 11:21 AM
Post #3


Unregistered








QUOTE(brokenhearth @ Sep 7 2009, 02:37 PM) *

Im rather confused about enochian and what it is meant to do and how it is supposed to be used
why some say is fake and other say its reall?


Enochian as a system possesses definite power. However, it seems that the creator of the language, Dr. John Dee, may have been attempting to create a cipher system out of the language.

Dee's "Angelic Language" came about as a result of evocatory angelic work he undertook with Edward Kelley. The purpose of this work, however, remains unclear and may have been to derive a secret form of communication that the English could have employed in espionage work. This apparent conflict, magical vs. mundane language, would not have been problematic in Dee's time as such ciphers were properly within the domain of occultists.

So some argue that Enochian is an effort to make a secret cipher and that's probably true. That does not mean that Enochian can not be used magically or that its magical use is in some ways fraudulent. The only contradiction arises from imposing modern perspectives on ancient practices and texts.

Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post

Closed
Topic Notes
Reply to this topicStart new topic

Collapse

Similar Topics

Topic Title Replies Topic Starter Views Last Action
Pros And Cons Of Sharing Knowledge 4 valkyrie 3,192 Apr 11 2007, 09:58 PM
Last post by: plainsight

2 User(s) are reading this topic (2 Guests and 0 Anonymous Users)
0 Members:

 

Lo-Fi Version Time is now: 21st November 2024 - 03:49 PM