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DollHouseKitty
post Sep 15 2005, 12:07 AM
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My mom sent me a bunch of pictures of the cabin we inherited from our grandad when he passed away, and tonight I was taking another look at them (I'm hella homesick, lol, looking at them has become a nightly ritual almost), and there is this one picture mom took of the cabin from the boat launch by our lake. Mom and dad had built a deck of sorts and used some old pews for benches, and in the picture there is this man sitting on the bench facing the lake. The man is dressed in a white t-shirt with black pants and looks like he's wearing a hat, which is what my grandad always wore, with suspenders (which I can't see, it's too far away, lol).

It doesn't look like my dad, because my dad has one of those awesome bellies that comfrotably lounge about, lol. My brother Never wears white, and there are no other vehicles on the property other than my parents suburban. I emailed mom asking her if I am going crazy and it's just one of the neighbors that could have walked up from down the road, or if it really could be my grandad sitting there.

Everytime I look at it though, I get this feeling...not creepy or fear...but almost...tingly sorta. It's so hard to explain. It's not strong, it's very very subtle...but enough to keep me staring at this picture for quite sometime until my eyes get buggy.

I'm hoping my mom will say that no one was there when she took the picture, because I really do miss grandad, even though he wasn't the easiest person to get along with, he still ruled.

Dad did spread half of his ashes in the garden after the funeral, and he did live there for like 23 years, so it would seem so natural that he wouldn't leave, y'know? It's still hard to not see him standing by the cabin door in only his pants, boots and suspenders whenever we drive down the little hill to the cabin, and not see him sitting at the kitchen table smoking and drinking coffee at 5 in the morning asking why we haven't gotten up earlier for breakfast of eggs and toast which are placed in front of him on the table no longer warm...but still delicious.

I miss him alot, and maybe it's just my mind wanting to see him again. I pray that isn't the case....I desperately want it to be him.

Anyways...I just needed to let that out to this corner of the world. It's been bugging the hell out of me and I need to just get it down. I'll let you know what mom says when she gets back to me if anyone is interested.

Thankx for taking the time to read this, it's much appreciatted.

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post Sep 15 2005, 12:41 AM
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I think spirit of the dead lingers in the physical plane for a bit after their death. My cousin died of a motorbike accident, his family has about 5 german shepherd around the property and that night all of the dogs howls.


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post Sep 15 2005, 12:55 AM
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I totally believe and understand that they linger abit after their death, but he died almost 5 years ago, lol.

Almost the same thing happened with my Gedo (I'm Ukrainian...Gedo is grandad), but it was in a dream. He passed away 7 years ago, and 4 years after his death I had a dream about him which I will never forget. Now, in Ukrainian tradition/belief, the passing of a family member will always come to you in your dreams. My aunts and mom and such all had dreams within months of his passing, and I was very very jealous of them. Gedo was like my knight in shining armour (not to pick favorites), who always had a beautiful smile on his face, and never made me feel bad for who i was or what mistakes I may have made along the way. I still miss him dearly too, but anyways. It took 4 years for him to come to me in a dream, and it was a dream that still makes absolutely no sense to me 3 years later.

I've also seen his face in the clouds one time when my cousin and I where on a road trip, which was unbelievably wonderful to see.

My dad's mom passed away when he was 17, so of course I never got to know her, but every once in awhile, I'll catch this scent of an antique floral perfum I think she wore. I found a bottle of it when I was young at the cabin, and lost it somewhere over the years. My dad is now 50, so it's been 33 years, and she still *partially* resides in this realm. I miss her too, even though I never knew her. She is the second most beautiful woman I've ever seen, next to my mom...both are noble and full of joy.

Yeah...I'm rambling again, lol. Pardon if it's boring or whatnot. This is pretty much the only time I've ever talked about this stuff.


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post Sep 15 2005, 01:51 AM
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Lol, well I read somewhere that the dead spirit tend to "live longer" on the physical plane when people often think of the deseased.

I can't seem make my sentence on this post clearer, concise or more informative, but try to think and relate the concept of a servitor, where it will grow only stronger when you "feed" it. So, it is a possibility that it is not the spirit of the deseased, but I am assuming its more of a self created elementals/larvae/servitor with qualities/associations you've implant in it subconsciously.


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post Sep 15 2005, 02:52 AM
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Shades.......collective remnants that are powered by our intense emotional attachments of the deceased. They are like snatches of songs not played entirely through...
Pardon my interuption. I was caught on the moment. Because the shade is made up of mostly emotive material they can still use emotions to play back to us. the higher selves are gone but the emotive self has a much longer life span. I'm sorry for making this sound so mechanical and cold. It isn't. These images can project love, etc. and can even interfere at times but always on an emotive level. Some people are not just sensitive to them but actually power them.

On a more comforting note, my GrandDad (moms side) and my Dad both manifest with pipe smoke (not mine...I don't smoke) one brand for one, the other for the other...it is very comforting as the feeling of love is very strong! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/throb.gif)

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post Sep 15 2005, 06:57 PM
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I don't know. I talked to my mom last night about it, and she looked at the pictures and thought it could be dad sitting there, but she's not totally sure. She has to wait till he gets back from Winnipeg, and she'll get him to take a looksie.

I can't really say that I would agree with mentioned "theories" about hauntings and spirits. I myself do believe that the spirit will linger on, guiding and protecting and comforting. In my experiences with some clients, I have very spontaneously contacted a deceased family member, and either given them messages or for the comfort aspect. To think of them as being some kind of....left over residue from thought form and emotions just doesn't seem to mesh well. But like I said, that's just how I feel how on the situation.

Thank you all for taking the time to read this though, I know it isn't something uber interesting or whatnot.

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post Sep 15 2005, 08:02 PM
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Greetings DollHouseKitty!

You're right, of course, IMHO, the spirit can/does survive after death, depending upon any number of reasons. When I attended the Spiritual Church I had many reasons to beleive that...

There are, in my belief, many different forms that the 'human' experience encompasses, from conception through death and beyond. One of the practices of Thelemic Magic(k) is Conversation with your Holy Guardian Angel (ie your higher self). The Egyptians have the belief of a multi-layered existance (ka, ba, etc.). To each their own. I never meant to imply that all was left was some flat, mechanical like holograph. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/5.gif)

Perhaps we need a thread on peoples idea of death and what lies after? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused012.gif)


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post Sep 17 2005, 03:21 AM
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Oh no need to apologize for anything! I understand that words can sometimes elude a person and an explanation may come out not as intended. It happens! God knows I've botched enough conversations in my life, lol.

Don't feel bad or anything, no worries! As the lovely Cheshire so simply put it!

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