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The Proven existance of 9 dimensional planes
by: Starmaster and Locust

Intro:
In order to understand these files, one must assume the following is completely true. If not assumed, one will be completely lost in the text of the following files. You may laugh if you wish, but if you want to understand the theory you must make compensations on your part. Ok, on with the file...

Volume I: Defining the 9 planes
Written by: Starmaster and Locust

1st dimensional plane: This plane consists of only the single dimension of length. It is not advised to try to envision this dimension for it may cause insanity, seriously.

2nd dimensional plane: This plane consists of both length and width. It is not adviable to envision this either. The first and second planes are not the same as the fourth dimension and are uncomprehendable except by entities "living" in that plane of thought and sight.

3rd dimensional plane: This is the plane of depth. This one is easily imagined by 4th dimensional entities, because they are so close to it, and had just passed out of it.

4th dimensional plane: This is the plane that the entities that we call beings "live" on. It consists of the forward movement of time. It is the one we are on right now.

The cross-over: This is a place where the 4th dimensional entities make their way into the 5th and above. It is often refered to as death, yet it is only a cross-over point. At this point, all knowledge of the 4th and below dimensions is lost.

5th dimensional plane: This plane consists of the backwards movement of time. Although considered impossible by 4th dimensional entities, those entities are only thinking in the 4th dimensional phase. Remember everything else from here on out is done in metaphysical thinking.

6th dimensional plane: This is the plane of clairvoyance. Remember, all of this you must assume, or no comprehension of the later explanations will be understood. Not much is known about this plane, except you "inhabit"
the sense of clairvoyance.

7th dimensional plane: This is the plane of telekinesis. This is even less understood than the plane of clairvoyance, yet it does exist. This often thought of as "supernatural", when in fact it a real thing.

8th dimensional plane: This is the plane of perception. It is the highest any entity can evolve to. It consists of all the planes from five and up.

9th dimensional plane: God. Refered to by many, but understood by few. All cultures and beings, be it from our world or others, have this vision. God created all life, so all life lives by him.

These are the explanations of all the dimensional planes. Dimensional planes are achieved by the evolution of the mind/soul/entity, which are all the same thing. Evolution is a continual learning process. As we evolve we understand more, yet raise more questions. This theory is to help those understand the answers to many questions concerning God and the "supernatural". One thing is assumed. We are not the only lifeforms in this universe. All lifeforms were created by God, and will evolve through the process God laid forth unto us. The universe is infinitely large, which shows God's power is also infinitely large.

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Volume II: Explanation of the Planes and their signifigance to the supernatural Intro:

This is the second part to the previous file on the proven existance of 9 dimensional planes. As stated in the last phile, one must assume all things true in order to understand and comprehend the intensity of this phile. This one will deal with the questions brought about by the theory itself.

One thing must be understood in this file. All the entities, in all the dimensional planes, co-exist with one another in this one universe. There is but one universe, in which all entities live in. There are no "outside" universes. Everything co-exists in this one universe.

Explanation of "Insane Persons":
An insane person is thought of as a person without the ability to think clearly and comprehend things on a 4th dimensional basis. They are not "insane". That is a term 4th dimensional entities give to those entities which are not on the the same thought plane that the other entities are on. Every plane is just a level of thought process. In the past file I stated that evolution is a continuing process of learning. The "insane" persons of a 4th dimensional community are not on the same thought plane we consider ourselves on.

Explanation of "supernatural" powers
This deals with the idea of persons who are able to channel their psychic powers to do physical things. This also deals with fortune tellers and People who can see the future, i.e. Nostradameus. These occurances are also explained by the thought level that these entities are on. They are actually 6th or 7th dimensional beings stuck in a 4th deminsional body. Because 99.8% of the population of the 4th dimension only thinks in 4 dimensions, they are often considered "supernatural", "witches", "prophets", ect. You then will ask, if I came up with this, how come I can't bend spoons with a thought. The answer is simple. I am now just discovering this phenomenon. I have an upbringing of this not really happening, but being a science-fiction thing. The people who do know how to do these things have been concentrating all their lives to use this "super" power givin to them by God. If everone thought on the 8th dimension, there would be no use for a God. It is all a process of learning and comprehending.

Explanation of "Ghosts, Spirits, and Poltergeists"
This is about the simplest thing to explain. As I stated above, all entities co-exist in the same universe, for there is only one, which is infinite. Sometimes, 4th dimensional beings see things they aren't "supposed" to see. People are brought up with the idea ghosts are science-fiction, when in fact they are a real thing. Sometimes these entities are accidently crossed back for a few seconds, years, or minutes.

Explanation of Heaven or the Kingdom of God
This is fairly easily comprehended, if one thinks beyond the 4th dimension. It is but the enternity at the other side of the cross-over. What do you think the "light at the end of the tunnel" is? It is the "other side" or 5th dimension. People lose their physical bodies and are "able to fly" around. This also explains the angels 4th dimensional beings continually say are immortal.

Explanation of Immortality
Immortality is an easily comprehendable concept, if one thinks of a positive charge and a negative charge. When thrown together, they cancel each other out. This is the same priciple when you combine forward and reverse time together. After you make the cross-over, your mind adapts to backwards time, yet when backwards time collides with forward time it cancels it out. Therefore the state of immortality is reached.

The one constant There is but one constant in all the dimensions. Plank's constant is only valuable in 4th dimensional science and so is the speed of light. There is only one constant in all of the 9 dimensions. It is the emotions. No one can explain emotions except this phile. Emotions are the only constant of the co-existant universe. Think about it. Why do you think the "ghosts" are happy, sad, angry, ect., ect., when you see them. It is because of the power and intensity of the emotional constant. When emotions of the 5th and above dimensional entities gains great intensity, it then is transfered to all other dimensions.

That about does it for this file. That pretty much explains everything that I can think of dealing with the unexplainable. If you can think of any more, leave mail on Centre of Eternity for Starmaster (#75). I will ponder for the answer, until I can get a suitable one using this theory. None will be turned away. Who knows, maybe I'll get enough quetions to write another phile. Slatez dudes.


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post Mar 27 2005, 12:44 PM
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I'm guessing they are using Jean's definition of proof here
QUOTE(Jean Chretien)
I don't know, a proof is a proof. What kind of proof is a proof? A proof is a proof and when you have a good proof it's becuase it's proven
If anyone is here looking for dimensional research, i'd suggest Michio Kaku's Hyperspace (ISBN:0385477058)
If you want to go insane contemplating the second dimension, Edwin A Abbott's Flatland: A Romance of Many Dimensions (ISBN:048627263X) is entertaining.


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According to quantum physics, there is theorized to exist approx. eleven dimensions. Eleven! Isn't that amazing to ponder?

When we are speaking of these dimensions, it is important to realize that we are talking about dimensions of VERY small proportions. For example, these dimensions would reside within quarks; if a nucleus was the size of the solar system, a quark would be the size of a medium-sized tree. I don't know the exact dimensions, but the sheer idea of that blows my mind; it is beautiful, really.

Then, when one theorizes the possibility of an entity of any sort living both within such small areas, and within an environment so... awesome, you are really getting to the heart of something wonderous.

When science and mysticism unite to bring forth a new idea, they can really produce something incredible. I can't testify for this particular idea, but I marvel at this one and those like it.

Sorry if I sound overly enthusiastic lol...


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post Mar 27 2005, 08:41 PM
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DropAndRiver, mind if I ask your sources for the 11 dimensional theory? It's the first time I've heard eleven stated. Ten is the most common I've read about and I believe superstring theory puts the number of dimensions at 26. A friend of mine also mentioned a theory of 18 dimensions, but has yet to get back to me with sources.

I'd like to point out at this moment than all of this multi-dimensional talk is purely theoretical/mathematical until we either find a way to probe plack energy or find a way to heat water to 10^32 degrees Kelvin. Of course by Occam's razor as well as aesthetic reasons it's the most likely of the options.

The article posted however doesn't even have the mathematical proofs. It's just stating propositions and leaving it at that.


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Brian Greene was the one to mention it, I believe. I have trouble memorizing some numbers due to synthesia (a lot of them feel alike... eleven feels like a knife, and so does 72 most of the time), so don't go just off of me; we really can't know for sure, anyway, but no matter the actual number it is extremely intriguing.

I'm a game theory freak myself, but I do like quantum physics; it is science without the dullness, most likely because it deals with such unique rules and realities.


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Here are some links on eclectic view of dimensions :
http://snoedel.punt.nl/?gr=674676#259315
http://www.2012.com.au/dimensions.html
http://www.soulwise.net/25g-awl.htm

The deceased mystic Robert Monroe mapped out the realms albeit from an atheist perspective . He died before he was able to ascend beyond his Focus Level 27 . However the Robert Monroe Institute in Virginia USA continues such reseach . RM predicted subsets of the universal mind would be discovered and I believe this exists in the recent pre-shift vibrational stage of the Dragon of Kundalini wherein some people born after 1980 enjoyed increasing higher waves of vibrations to be born into which supercede the Indigo wave of 1950. Here is a partial listing . I would love to have the higher listing but understand this is a 'pay as you go' deal at the RMI .
Focus 3: State of increased mental coherency and balance
Focus 10: Mind Awake/Body Asleep
Focus 12: A state of expanded awareness
Focus 15: State of no time
Focus 21: The edge of time/space - contact other energy systems.
Focus 22: live ones in comas, or the insane a chaotic level
Focus 23: dead "stuck" confused about or unaware of their death,ghosts
Focus 24,25,26: Belief Territories of Afterlifers
Focus 27: Afterlife free will created by humans resembling earth
Focus 34-35 is the locale having group consciousness entities also known as the monad or oversoul.

The late metaphysical author and mystic Dr. Joshua David Stone suggested a 7 plane hierarchy in his early works :
3 Physical
4 Astral
5Monadic
6Logoic
7Devic

Integrating a mapping of realms by other researchers I synthesise this :

0 Non Existence
1 Lowest Plane
2 Lower Plane
3 Unaware Physical
4 Astral Emotional
-- Mental (Monadic 1) unaware human being helped to travel
-- Buddhic (Intuitional ) Aware Human when asleep
---Atmic ( Spiritual ) Aware and Projecting Human when awake
5Monadic 2 ( Anupadaka) Meeting of Guides , Mahatma , Archangels
6Logoic Meeting of Avatars and Traveling to Shamballah
7Devic Meeting of Devas , Elementals , Thrones and Seraphim
-- Divine (Adi)

Can we match Monroe focus points to Spiritual realms ? If so , how do they correspond ? My own research as a mystic in an alchemical circle with peers leads me to this attempt ;

000 Magical Realm of Elementals ( elementals also exist on Earth and can be found on many planes )
00 Lower Hells
0 Higher Hell
1 Lower Plane of Chaos and “Hell on Earth ”
2 Totemic Earth Wisdom
3 Physical Focus 3: increased mental coherency and balance
4 Astral Lower Focus 10: Mind Awake/Body Asleep
5 Monadic- work with guides , mahatma , chohans and archangels
--Astral Hall of Learning – Spiritual King’s Chamber over Luxor
- Focus 12: A state of expanded awareness
6 Golden Chamber of Melchiezedek
7 Logoic -Shamballah --Temples of Light RHP
---Ashrams of Chohans Great Pyramid RHP
8 Group Monadic Soul - Meeting Higher Self RHP
--Temple of Zodiac and Great Clock in Shamballah RHP
--Focus 15: State of no time
--Temple of the Dragons -subset of Universal Mind LHP
9 Blue Lodge of what is called the Arcturians of Sirius
---Sentient Being Ashrams from other universes
---Called the Pleaides lies on a trajectory off that star group in Taurus
---Called Sirius lies on a trajectory off this star
Focus 21: The edge of time/space - contact other energy systems.
10 Plane of Elementals , Devas ,Thrones , the Vortex , Elohim Council
---Human Manifestations ie ashrams of live humans
11Window on Edge of Universe
---Entrance to Hells for Students of the Occult
----Plane of Heavens Focus 24,25,26: Belief Territories of Afterlifers---Human and Spirit cooperative Manifestations of Metaphysical Colleges
---Temples of Wisdom
---Gates of Death Focus 23: "stuck" confused unaware ghosts
12Universal Mind Focus 34-35 is the locale having group consciousness
---Devic Chambers
---Human made spirit homes Focus 27: Afterlife free will resembling earth
---Ashrams of other worlds ie Reptilians beyond the trajectory of Ursa Major
13The Other side of the Cone of Consciousness
----Operation of Ley Lines of Infinity on the Grids
---Tunnels of Eternity
---Om Shallah the realm of Living Sound and the Crown of Shallah
14 Bands of Streaming Consciousness on the Middle or Central Path

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So if the world would be going by the 9 dimensions, and we're in the 4th dimension, which is pretty much known as our spirits in pyshical bodys in a pyshical world, then when we die, or our body does at least. Our spirit would go on to the next dimension and what happens when we get to the 9th dimension? And once we're out of this dimension and on to the next, is there time in that dimension? Or does time only exist in this dimension? If it did only exist in this dimension then once our body is dead and our spirit is moving forward, wouldn't it be something difficult for our spirit to accosm to, not having time exist, when we are so use to it. And how long would we be staying in each dimension if there was no time? Would it be the same amount we stayed here in this dimension? Or would we just stay in every dimension until we've learned what we need to learn?

Just questions I thought about when I read this post...


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