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| Tyler Durden |
 Aug 3 2006, 09:38 AM
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Allow me to rephrase, as the edit button is unavailable...
Let me start by saying, I do not know where this thread should be, so if it could possibly be in a better place, by all means, I would appreciate it greatly if it were moved. I have chosen to put this thread in the Enochian forum, because based on my limited knowledge of the Enochian system, it deals with Angels, and more importanly, some less common Angels (please correct me if I am mistaken).
My question: There are now Gray Angels. I have been working with them for quite a while, but they appear to be keeping a low profile. I was wondering if anyone else had encountered them as of yet. One of my natural (?) skills is the sense of a beings true nature, so I can eliminate the possibliity that they are anything other than Angelic beings. They appear to be truly Gray, answering to neither Jehova, nor Lucifer, but acting independantly.
Thank you for your time and understanding.
Makavelli
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| Alafair |
Aug 4 2006, 11:47 AM
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The Nephilim or Grigori might have some bearing on these Gray Angels. Check this on site links which might be of some help.
http://www.sacred-magick.org/index.php?sho...179&hl=nephilim
http://www.sacred-magick.org/index.php?sho...721&hl=nephilim
http://www.sacred-magick.org/index.php?sho...115&hl=nephilim
"The land, through which we have gone to spy it out, is a land that devours its inhabitants, and all the people that we saw in it are of great height. And there we saw the Nephilim (the sons of Anak, who come from the Nephilim), and we seemed to ourselves like grasshoppers, and so we seemed to them." (Numbers 13:32-33, English Standard Version)
Check out the Wikipedia too.
Have you thought of reading the Book of Enoch? I have often wondered if, over the aeons since their falling, the Nephilim might have changed their initial appearance and habits. Anyone any thoughts about that possibility? (IMG: style_emoticons/default/angel.gif)
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| Satarel |
Aug 5 2006, 09:11 AM
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The lost is another term for "grey angels" - angels that didn't side with heaven or Satan during the battle.
The Grigori wouldn't count as grey or lost angels in the neutral sense, since they were apparently led astray by Satan (although the accounts vary, that's the official take... I would disagree, but there's the whole multiplicity of names issue, so one can never be certain).
And Nephilim aren't angels. They're something different again - half-angels if you will, but there's not one known to have been good or neutral. Apparently they did all sorts of crazy things; much of the slaying and the eating people and the teaching of forbidden knowledge sort of schtick.
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| Tyler Durden |
Aug 9 2006, 09:51 AM
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QUOTE(bym @ Aug 9 2006, 01:36 AM)  It appears that the 'gray angels' that you speak of have any number of different leads as far as info goes. Since most info on angels come from either subjective sources or those written by others (both subjective and objective) it would seem to me that you should be the one to research this question. You say that you are dealing with them already...why not ask them directly? If they refuse to answer or retreat upon questioning, then leave them alone and stick with more conventional angels. The Internet has many different search engines and libraries are available in most towns/cities. You are accessing this site with a computer so utilizing a search program (Google, Ask Jeeves, Yahoo search) should be relatively painless. Our Library does have alot of source material about angels. A friendly note here... The members here (or people in general) don't necessarily know what you mean by 'gray'. They are not privvy to your thoughts or works. You'll have to supply as much information about how you are approaching a subject for others to add intelligent commentary or information. To automatically assume that anyone knows exactly where you're coming from in regards to a topic is looking for pot luck. We'll try to be helpful but we also have better things to do than to drop everything to tell you something that you could have researched abit before asking a question. The members here are, by and large, a friendly group and are very quick to be of assistance. I'm happy to say that I'm learning things everyday here! Now that you've joined perhaps we'll learn more from you about these angelic beings! How did you first meet them? What kind of 'vibration' do they respond to? Do you communicate with them? Do they have names? Thanks for being patient while we(all) try to understand what you are speaking of. (IMG: style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) Thank you for your observation. What I was intending to garner was any information that Zahaqiel may have, as he seemed to instantly understand what I was referring to. It was not my intent to pose the question to the entire board, but unfortunately, it came out that way. In the future, perhaps I should PM any question to a specific poster. My apologies. This post has been edited by Makavelli: Aug 9 2006, 09:52 AM |
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| Tyler Durden |
Aug 10 2006, 12:15 PM
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QUOTE(aDeadAnubis @ Aug 10 2006, 02:53 AM) What I believe he meant by his statement was that your question was vague and if you had supplied more specific details we could have more easily understood you and answered your question. If you had supplied us any kind of detail beyond the word "grey" in your question I am sure we could have all leapt right to answers that dealing with what you asked instead of taking blind stabs in the dark as we did.
It'd be a lot easier to get to the heart of the matter if you had included their mannerisms and appearances instead of simply calling them "grey angels". Yes, that has now become apparant. Here is (hopefully) a more detailed description: These beings I speak of are Angels, no doubt. Not nephillim, nor grigori, they are Angels, gray in color and neutral in attitude. They do not work for Jehova, nor are they part of Lucifer's Army. Though I have battled along side of them, and they are great allies, they tend to be very reserved and private. I know them, but know little about them. It appears that they like to keep a low profile, but I am not certain if that is only towards myself or everyone. I was just curious to know if anyone else has encountered these beings. |
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| palindroem |
Sep 3 2006, 11:56 AM
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Could these be "angelic" beings from some non-JudeoXtain source . . . there are many of those. Do they seem to have any (human) cultural context? Do they reference themselves by any other names (collectively or individually)? How do they arraign themselves? Under what system context did you / do you encounter them? What battles? I'm not trying to be nosey . . . I'm just . . well . . . nosey. (IMG: style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) These kinds of questions would help identify them. This post has been edited by palindroem: Sep 3 2006, 11:58 AM
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| waldoworld |
Jan 7 2007, 10:53 PM
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QUOTE(Alafair @ Aug 4 2006, 12:47 PM) The Nephilim or Grigori might have some bearing on these Gray Angels. Check this on site links which might be of some help.
http://www.sacred-magick.org/index.php?sho...179&hl=nephilim
http://www.sacred-magick.org/index.php?sho...721&hl=nephilim
http://www.sacred-magick.org/index.php?sho...115&hl=nephilim
"The land, through which we have gone to spy it out, is a land that devours its inhabitants, and all the people that we saw in it are of great height. And there we saw the Nephilim (the sons of Anak, who come from the Nephilim), and we seemed to ourselves like grasshoppers, and so we seemed to them." (Numbers 13:32-33, English Standard Version)
Check out the Wikipedia too.
Have you thought of reading the Book of Enoch? I have often wondered if, over the aeons since their falling, the Nephilim might have changed their initial appearance and habits. Anyone any thoughts about that possibility? (IMG: style_emoticons/default/angel.gif) I thought that the nephelim where merely half breeds who retained partial traits and died out. |
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