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The Philadelphia Experiment is an alleged United States Navy experiment (Project Rainbow) done on October 28, 1943. According to legend, the destroyer USS Eldridge was made invisible, dematerialized, and teleported from Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, to Norfolk, Virginia, and back again to the Philadelphia Naval Yard. The experiment allegedly had such terrible side effects, such as making sailors invisible and causing them to go mad, that the Navy quit exploring this exciting new technology.

The experiment was allegedly done by Dr. Franklin Reno as an application of Einstein's unified field theory. The experiment supposedly demonstrated a successful connection between gravity and electromagnetism: electromagnetic space-time warping.

The Navy denies that it ever did such a test. The denial is taken as proof by the conspiratorially minded that the experiment must have really occurred. The less gullible ask, Where did this story come from?

The story is a mixture of fact, fiction, speculation, and madness.

The facts are that the Navy does all kinds of experiments, many of them secret. Many of these experiments attempt to find military applications for the latest discoveries or theories in physics, such as Einstein's unified field theory. It seems to be a fact that the Navy was experimenting with "invisibility" in 1943, but not with making ships disappear. Edward Dudgeon, who says he was there on the U.S.S. Engstrom, claims that they hoped to make our ships "invisible to magnetic torpedoes by de-Gaussing them." Dudgeon described the procedure: to UFO investigator Jaques Vallee:

They sent the crew ashore and they wrapped the vessel in big cables, then they sent high voltages through these cables to scramble the ship's magnetic signature. This operation involved contract workers, and of course there were also merchant ships around, so civilian sailors could well have heard Navy personnel saying something like, "they're going to make us invisible," meaning undetectable by magnetic torpedoes....(Vallee)

The Engstrom and the Eldridge were harbored together and, according to Dudgeon, crew members from both ships had parties together on shore and "there was never any mention of anything unusual." Though they did witness some spectacular electric storms, he says. (St. Elmo's fire is common in the area.)

Marshall Barnes, who identifies himself as a "Special Civilian Investigator," claims Dudgeon's story is disinformation and that Vallee is a hoaxer out to cover up the government's real activities. Maybe so, but in March of 1999, sailors who’d served on the Eldridge reunited and told a Philadelphia Inquirer reporter that they "find the story amusing — especially because the ship never docked in Philadelphia."* Barnes also claims that he can prove that "optical invisibility" is possible through "the use of an intense electromagnetic field that would create a mirage effect of invisibility by refracting light."* He claims he proved this to the cable network A&E for an Unexplained episode, but that they reneged on the deal. One would think they would have jumped at the chance to demonstrate something so wondrous.

Morris Jessup's book
Another fact is that in 1955 an auto parts salesman and amateur astronomer named Morris K. Jessup published a book called The Case for the UFO. In his book, Jessup speculated--among other things--that anti-gravity and electromagnetism would be better than rocket fuel for propelling space vehicles. The following year, Carl Allen (a.k.a. Carlos Miguel Allende), a somewhat brilliant but very disturbed human being, started the hoax by writing letters to Jessup telling him of The Philadelphia Experiment. Allende claims that he witnessed the disappearance of a ship while on board the SS Andrew Furuseth, a merchant ship. He also claims he saw some Eldridge crew members disappear into thin air during a fight. Allen sent an annotated copy of Jessup's book to the Office of Naval Research in Washington, D.C. Jessup was summoned to Washington and turned over the Allen letters. Later, the Varo Corporation, a firm which did research for the military, published the annotated version along with Allen's letters to Jessup. Jessup committed suicide in 1959. Allen continued sending strange annotations to relatives for many more years, as he drifted from place to place.

The speculations regarding the origin of Allen's story have run rampant. Some say that he was there and saw it all. Some say that Allen is an alien and channels information. Some claim that the Navy is covering up the experiment and their complicity with aliens. The simple truth is that Allen made it all up.

Allen's hoax has grown into a legend which has been spurred on by a number of books, some of them fictional, some non-fictional, and others fictional but claiming to be non-fictional. In 1965, Vincent H. Gaddis's Invisible Horizons: True Mysteries of the Sea was published. In addition to stories about various disappearing islands, aircraft, and ships, Gaddis presents the basics of the legend as created by Allen in his letters and published in the Varo edition of Jessup's work. In 1977, Charles Berlitz published Without a Trace: New Information from the Triangle, which included a chapter on the Philadelphia Experiment. Berlitz is a frequent source for stories on strange phenomena, such as Atlantis, the Bermuda Triangle, and Noah's Ark.

In the fictional category, Thin Air (1978) by George E. Burger and Neil R. Simpson stands out. It is about a Navy investigation of a cover-up of an experiment involving the USS Eldridge in 1943.

In 1979, The Philadelphia Experiment: Project Invisibility by William L. Moore and Charles Berlitz was published. This book is fiction but claims to be fact, and plagiarizes parts of Thin Air. In the Moore and Berlitz book, not only the ship but several crew members disappear into a new dimension, never to be seen again (unless, of course, you sail to Atlantis on Noah's Ark through the Bermuda Triangle where you will no doubt find these sailors holding a séance).

In 1984, a movie called "The Philadelphia Experiment" was produced. It was directed by Stewart Raffill and was based on a screenplay by William Gray and Michael Janover.

There have been other attempts to exploit the gullible with stories about this so-called experiment, but two stand out as more insane than the rest: The Philadelphia Experiment, and Other UFO Conspiracies, by Brad Steiger, with Alfred Bielek and Sherry-Hanson Steiger (1990); and The Philadelphia Experiment Part 1- Crossroads of History, presented by Alfred Bielek. The former is a book which rehashes the usual stories of CIA plots, government conspiracies, secret meetings with aliens, trips to Mars, visits from the Men in Black, etc. The latter is a video featuring a man who claims he was a physicist on the USS Eldridge in 1943 and was part of the team that conducted the experiment. Bielek claims he time-traveled in 1943 to 1983 during the experiment and lived to tell the story, only to be harassed by the U.S. government for his troubles.

The central claim of the Philadelphia Experiment may have a basis in fact, however. Edward Dudgeon describes the event.

I was in [a] bar that evening, we had two or three beers, and I was one of the two sailors who are said to have disappeared mysteriously...The fight started when some of the sailors bragged about the secret equipment [radar, sonar, special screws, a new compass, etc.] and were told to keep their mouths shut. Two of us were minors....The waitresses scooted us out the back door as soon as trouble began and later denied knowing anything about us. We were leaving at two in the morning. The Eldridge had already left at 11 p.m. Someone looking at the harbor that night might have noticed that the Eldridge wasn't there any more and it did appear in Norfolk. It was back in Philadelphia harbor the next morning, which seems like an impossible feat: if you look at the map you'll see that merchant ships would have taken two days to make the trip. They would have required pilots to go around the submarine nets, the mines and so on at the harbor entrances to the Atlantic. But the Navy used a special inland channel, the Chesapeake-Delaware Canal, that bypassed all that. We made the trip in about six hours" (Vallee).

Such is the mundane stuff that urban legends are made of.

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post Mar 31 2005, 07:00 PM
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The philidelphia experiment was a front for what they really were doing- the manhattan project. I think, however, it actually did happen but its the actual results that are being covered up by the government, not the experiment itself. I'd be willing to bet that the government has many facilities around the nation, if not the globe including Antartica, where theorical science is being applied to many new technologies. Some of which may become practicle in my life time. The thing that scares me is how our trusted officals will use this technology.


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post Apr 5 2005, 05:48 AM
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The manhatten project was the a-bomb.

I have read about this before and its very interesting. Not too sure if its all real though.

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post Apr 17 2005, 08:50 PM
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Greetings! There is another book out there called "The Montauk Project"...I don't remember the author(s) It discussed further experimentations involving time travel , etc. I grew up on Long Island Sound area and can attest to various 'odd' phenomena that occurred at the time of the experiments. But then who here haven't experienced anomalies. Lending credence to conspiratory tales can really muddle the picture. I must confess, I LIKE mysteries. I don't wish to solve them all. A romantic by nature I guess. There will be some things that will always pique our curiosity but we shouldn't lose sight of the facts. (So much for Romance, Einstein! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) )
Edit: the Manhattan Project was very real! BANG!!!


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post May 5 2005, 08:04 PM
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(IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) Famous saying 'there is nothing new under the sky'....

I believe (firmly) that the technology of the ancients is alive and kicking on this planet. Technology which the sheep in the fold at the bottom of the pile never get to know about. When an agency uses a technology to suppress another agency without it being made aware there is divide and rule ......

I don't doubt for one second that a technology exists that can make ships disappear and reappear in another place .... translocation exists under the sun ..... it is merely a technology which can be developed ... and used ....

The average human on this planet is aware of a little as 9% of what is really going on in the world .... man is a limited senses being ... and is like a tiny grain of sand on a beach of limitless size ....

He who doubts and he who denies is limiting his perception of reality; he who opens his mind to anything and everything will see a much wider picture!

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I for one have seen evidence of objects being made to appear then reappear at will ...... I partook in an 'experiment' where we would consciously lift the vibration of parts of our body through control of our life force energy field .... I began with my left foot ... and an unsuspecting witness (who was NOT aware of what I was doing) was asked to comment on what he could see around my left foot .... he replied with "I dunno what I'm meant to see but in truth I cannot see your left foot at all .... it has disappeared!"

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I furthered my experiments with shifting my body vibrations to getting my entire left hand up to my left shoulder to disappear ....


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Translucent entities made themselves known to me at this time and said they'd created a portal in my room and they wanted me to walk through it .... I followed their instruction which was to FIRMLY BELIEVE that they were there and that it was possible to do this (I displined my mind to clear out all traces of the logical side of the brain and came to total childlike acceptance that I could do this thing) ....... I wandered over to the point in the room they claimed was a portal .... it was overshadowing my bedroom door .... with trepidation I began with my fingers .... and found I met no physical resistance ... no door .... I was able to push my arm through .... until when a voice urged me to walk through .... my logical brain kicked in with disbelief and that was it I felt the door!!!!!

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So you see ... invisibility and translocation and vibrational shifting is a reality ... when you have experienced it (real ... fact ... not make believe) then you know anything is possible ......

(IMG:style_emoticons/default/mf_popeanim.gif) So ... open your mind .... suppress the logical brain which says no and clouds your possibilities and really see what it out there!!!

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post Nov 11 2005, 01:23 PM
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Greetings All,

I choose to write because this is a topic that intrest me as well. I am huge fan of metaphysics, but also a sceptic who refuses simploy to take someones word for something. I want facts, something I can go after and prove, not prove in the sense of the everyday person, but prove in the sense that here or on other planes there is enough evidence to prove that the event took place. For those who look for logical explanations I applaud you, but don't forget that 100 yrs ago. It was a scientific fact that the world was flat, that if you sailed to far you'd fall off of the edge. There are entire civilzations in our basic Elementary school history books that disappeared without a trace. So yes I applaud logic, but I don not blantant denial or ignorance in the fact that science is still catching up with magick. Things known for yrs in the metaphysical community are now being discovered by sciencetist everywhere whom because they refuse to think aoutside the box cannot explain it.

Here is another fact. Those in charge as a whole view the general population as sheep. They feed you crap to keep you distracted while they lead us as a people to someplace where not going to be happy where at once we wake up and relaize whats happened. There is so much going on right out in the open that no one pays attention too, because they are to busy with whatever the new Goverment issue is that they can get us to fight over its sickning. It infuriates me to think that even now we have people who simply brush aside things because they are outside of the box. The box may I remind you that the Relgious front created long ago, as a ply for power to control the masses. So when I hear things like The Philidelphia Project instead of assuming its a crack pot conspriacy theory I search. Present me with fact, example is the channel the Elderige took, is it verifiable? Can I read about? Is there geographical information written somewhere on the area. People will believe what they want to believe and if you believe somethign look hard enough and you can find the facts to support it, but if you approach everything form a skecptical point of view. Evetually you'll find truth in the fable.

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As far as I know and as far as the government is probably going to admit the philidephia project never happened. It wasa cover story, a front for their real project to develope an atomic bomb-The Manhattan Project. Its the same idea as claiming UFO's are alien visitors. While there is no hard evedence to prove or dis-proove the existance of aliens and or their visitation to earth ufos are most likely a cover story for expiremental craft. Things like the SR-72, the U2 spy plane, or the F-117 and B2 bomber are all examples of air planes that if seen by air traffic control or some ignorant civilian would seem abnormal and possibly extraterrestrial.

In the case of the philidephia expirement, as far as I know, the government actually paid people to come up with a cover story, the said project (something could be leaked to the press to satisfy the masses and keep their real project hidden) Of course in order to make the front believable their has to be seemingly credible science to it and names of people invovled. But everything I've ever heard says the philidephia expirement either never happened and was used as a cover story. Or was at best side lined for the production of an atomic bomb.

The metaphorical UFO in the case of the philidelphia experiment was disappearing ships and or teleportation or time travel. I've heard all three. Each would requires some serious changes/additions to the laws of physics.


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post Dec 12 2006, 08:00 PM
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Greetings!
I stumbled onto this 'blurb' when scouting around the name of Peter Moon on another thread... this is well worth the read!

http://www.virtuallystrange.net/ufo/update...n/m20-004.shtml

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QUOTE(| Kinjo @ Mar 28 2005, 01:35 PM) *
Alleged, according to legend, allegedly supposedly, conspiratorially minded, gullible, fact, fiction, speculation, and madness.

That article doesn't sound bias at all!

The folks onboard the ship itself according to reports flew about, lost all mental control, and some were fused into the bulkhead of the ship itself after 'teleporting' for want of a better word. Of course, there aren't any photographs, videos, or any testimony from people achieving similar results with similar equipment as used on the Eldridge is there? Wrong: http://video.google.co.uk/videosearch?q=hutchison+effect

The next interesting connection that is never cited in any of the Montauk books (having read most of them) is the merkabah spoken of in the torah/bible and in many resources on qabalah. There's a book (the ancient secret of the flower of life) that talks of the merkabah science and sacred geometry therein that just so happens to tie into the description of the Delta-T antenna in the first Montauk Project book. The merkabah is also described as being capable of placing you outside of time.

The tantric exercises duncan cameron had to perform in the Montauk Chair (or pharoah chair, if you pefer) correlate with what crowley describes occurring in tibet.

This is all just a coincidence to the so-called less gullible, and there's plenty more evidence I can write to the effect of the above.

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Supposbly one of the bases involved in this was the Survellance base is in Montauck, LI,NY. The base is now abandoned, and its a nice little tourist site. I been there, and its pretty much an old WWII base. Since the area is clear of city lights, I would imagine the place must be nice at night since the stars are all brightly shining in Long Island. SOme of the stories there are that a monster from another dimension was brought in, UFO experiaments, etc. Whatever... Nice urban legend but I believe the first report. It was only invisible to torpedos, not to the naked eye.

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