Vampire Bible Options

i heard someone mention the vampire bible and was wondering if anyone has read it and what they thought of it, thought i would ask your opinions before i spent money on it.

thanks
night

I have not heard of this book, it sounds like it might be an interesting read though.

the vampire bible comes with living in your moms basement and playing DnD.

Not nessesarily, remember Vampires is a powerfull symbol, the archetype have many uses in magick. And then there is psychic Vampires and so on, or rituals based around the consept.

One more thing, D&D and other RPG games is not a bad thing, it do not mean one live whit one`s mother, I have played RPG games as a hobby for 8 ears and I have my own life thank you wery mutch.

The vampiric bible describes the rituals to become a vampire. it also touches on the way and behavior of a vampire. I feel the rituals inside are far too difficult for a person to perform. It is suitable for a person who is a die hard follower of vampirism and vampires.

It sounds like a fun read. Do anyone know where I might get a hold of this book?

I saw this book an an occult store by my house. I didn't care to pick it up though because of the assumption it was a bunch of nonsense. I might have to swing back around there now and pick it up. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/oops.gif)

Do tell us if you do pick it up and read it how it is, I think it sounds fun.

Yeah, the store by my house has many good books. Though, I am not well informed on good authors, so I tend to only grab books I know are good. So if you have any suggestions, I will ask the owner to order them for me.

There are so many good books out there, one I can recomend is the Kybalion (I might have written the word wrong) By three initiates, it is a book on Hermetic magick that is wery understandable and down to earth. I also like the books by Byron Kaitie, she is a new age author, and her books can be a bit nicety, nice, but they are filled whit interesting consepts. Starsigns and new Starsigns, especialy New Starsigns by Linda Goodman is good. New Starsigns is not just atrology but a kind of magick practice based in knowledge of the stars. Books by Scott Cunningham I can recomend, as well as books by Don Kerig. Cabala and Pshycic self defence by Dion Fortune is also good, but I find them a bit dificult to understand. Transendental Magic by Eliphas Levi to fall into that cathegory. Also I would like to recomend two fiction books lines becouse they can give wonderful ideas. Mage the Acension, especialy 1 and 2 ed. There is also another game called Mage the Awakening, but for food for magickal thinking you dont want that, you want Acsension. And then there is the books seris Wheel of Time by Robert Jordan that have a beautiful representation of Energy magickk.

Well those are the books I can think of recomending of the top of my head right now, though I might come up whit more recomendations later.

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For your info, vampire bible can be found in sacred magick library.

Thank you for the information, it is wery nice of you. I also found their website. Tanks. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

I've been searching for a long time for this book, and the only place I can reach is here:

Vampire Bible

This post has been edited by DeathStalker: Dec 26 2006, 06:38 PM

I just ordered the hardcover from there.

They claim that the book is cursed, and can have drastic effects on those who misuse its content.

Buying the book leads to "joining their order" which is what I've done.

Just be careful to read the rules prior to buying the book, thus, joining the temple/order.

peace.

This post has been edited by DeathStalker: Dec 26 2006, 06:58 PM

The Temple of the Vampire exists to serve the Temple Mission: to find lost members of our Family and restore to them their Heritage.

You will first want to read The Temple website as well as the other forums here.

These few words will answer most of your questions.

To post in this forum you must first purchase an authorized copy of The Vampire Bible.

The public forums you will then have access to will offer initial preparation and studies you may conduct while you await the arrival of your authorized Teachings.

Details regarding the practice of authentic Vampirism and the validation of the Temple Teachings are reserved for active membership and will not be discussed in these public forums.

If you have not purchased an authorized copy of The Vampire Bible you are strongly encouraged to do so as this book contains all the essentials required to practice and understand true Vampirism.

If you have purchased The Vampire Bible and also accept The Vampire Creed you can accept Lifetime Registered Membership.

Those who endorse The Vampire Creed may also purchase the Temple Ring and the Ritual Medallion .

Please direct all questions regarding administration of the Temple (subscriptions, ordering, shipping, etc.) by email to [email protected]

Questions from the press or those interested in writing about the Temple should be emailed to the Temple directly to: [email protected]

Courtesy will be required at all times.

Posts are expected to be relevant to the purpose of the public forums. Your access to these forums will be terminated if your posts are frivolous or discourteous.

Welcome!

It is usually hard for those new to the Temple to grasp the fact that has been stated in all Temple literature from The Vampire Bible on, that this Temple is invisibly Guided.

Often when I meet people in person who are familiar with the Temple on one level or another I find it highly amusing that they attempt to judge what is visible – my appearance, words, actions, education, behavior – to determine in their own minds what is invisible.

Judging a book by its cover is often a serious error.

However, even more importantly, what the Temple is truly about is completely invisible.

The Temple makes a number of claims regarding your nature as well as the nature of the world and then suggests that you perform experiments to validate these claims.

Those who state that they have validated these claims do so formally as active members and are assigned up to five Grades of recognition: Initiate, Predator, Priest/Priestess, Sorcerer/Sorceress and Adept.

These Grades are only valid to the extent that the person claiming these attainments is truthful and accurate.

The Temple has made no effort to counter or screen out those who lie to themselves or others.

Why?

Why have We deliberately chosen to not attempt to test the validity of the claims of those attesting to these accomplishments?

The reason is simple.

We have known from the beginning that there will come into this Temple those who cannot or will not actually pursue the Teachings.

There will come to Us those who lack the Potential or lack the perseverance to get authentic results.

There will be those who will somehow always reinterpret their failures as success to boost up a false sense of self-importance.

There will be those who resent the elitist claims of the Temple and come here with no other purpose than to attempt to reveal what they consider falsehoods.

There will be those who, when meeting members in person, will substitute judging what is visible for what is invisible, judging others as they appear to be instead of judging their own validated experiences.

From time to time some of the members who have these hidden agendas gather together in groups and then finally – usually in a great flurry of noise and excitement – declare themselves to be independent or superior to the Temple and then attempt to form new groups.

Sometimes such efforts will include attacks of one kind or another in an attempt to denigrate the Temple and help justify their “rebellion”.

Efforts like this are inevitable because human nature remains as it is.

However all such efforts are juvenile, misguided and doomed to failure.

Why?

The answer is simple.

Everything unique about the Temple requires that you prove it to yourself.

Everything.

It does not matter what is visible.

It does not matter about Temple history, personalities, origins, or anything else of that nature.

All that matters is what is invisible.

You can only absolutely know what you personally know.

If you do not know if Lifeforce exists, or Communion is real, or Magic is real or the authentic nature of the Self and Reality – then you simply do not know.

That is the posture of the entire world outside this Temple.

When a member claims to know that any of these claims of the Temple are true and correct, they testify to these as self-validated personal knowledge.

Please notice that it is you who must say “I know this to be true because I have experienced it and proven it to myself.”

Those who lie about such things are only deceiving themselves … unless they then deny the very facts they have claimed to be true.

This is one reason why the Temple does not attempt to verify the members’ claims.

On the one hand We respect the members' honesty and assume that they are here to do what We are here to offer: mastery of the Teachings.

On the other hand anyone who then leaves the Temple, whether alone or in a group, demonstrates that they have lied about what they have claimed to know is true.

So-called “schisms” from this Temple can only come from liars.

It does not matter if they lied deliberately or later discovered that they lied due to misunderstanding.

Those who lie deliberately not only lie to others but, more importantly, they lie to themselves.

Those who have lied through misunderstanding but do not leave the Temple can always work to correct this failure through personal achievement.

Those who have lied through misunderstanding what they claimed and then leave the Temple to attempt to form something similar are simply ignorant and have nothing to teach.

If someone has lied before about these issues, they should not be believed again especially if they wish to “instruct” others.

Knowledge does not come from ignorance.

Wisdom does not rise from self-deception.

The important claims of this Temple cannot be demonstrated to others.

The Temple claims are invisible.

Taking Lifeforce is not something one can show on videotape.

Successful Communion with the Rain of Mercy is not something that can be seen by others who might watch as passive observers

Everything of importance in this Temple is, by its nature, a personal and private experience.

Everything of importance in this Temple is invisible.

Therefore the Temple only exists to find those who wish to actually achieve these experiences and then to offer them Guidance in doing so.

Thus any effort by anyone or any group to break away from the Temple is an admission by that person or group that they have utterly failed to achieve what they claimed.

Those who actually achieve results understand this and are loyal to the Temple because they are loyal to authenticated results.

They are loyal to reality.

In a very real sense it is impossible to attack the Temple or take the Authority of the Temple or hijack the Teachings of the Temple to do anything else because what you see is not what you get.

If you think this through you will realize that any effort to break away from the Temple to do anything even remotely similar is an admission of incompetence and ignorance.

The invisible is what this Temple is all about.

If you are being seduced by the visible and are considering the words of those who would denigrate this Temple, I urge you to think carefully.

Anyone who would suggest these things with Grade above Initiate cannot be trusted!

By their own testimony they have proven that either they are outright liars about their experiences or they still have failed to achieve what they have claimed.

They are asking you to trust them and they have proven that they,themselves, cannot be trusted!

Either their character is flawed or their judgment or both.

The Temple, on the other hand, asks you to trust no one except yourself.

The Temple offers time-tested instructions for experiments to perform to prove to yourself what is true.

Anything you are told by those who would undercut the Authority of this Temple relies upon you believing in only what is visible.

The Temple asks you instead, to verify what is invisble!

The invisible is the “hidden” or the “occult”.

The Temple is the one public organization that both offers the means and structure to permit the direct and personal experience of the Occult, in its truest essence.

Everything else is mere words, pictures, sounds, sensations - all of which are visible.

As Internet Administrator to the Temple I receive emails daily and commonly I read pleas from those who betrayed their own nature and left the Temple.

They beg to be allowed back in again for a “second chance”.

When I do reply I only suggest that they seek happiness in other interests.

There is a world full of distractions to divert the human mind away from its mortality.

I do not mention that they have cast away their only true hope for something More.

Something that cannot be visible because of its nature.

Your mind is invisible and the Minds behind this Temple are as well.

You do not have to believe this.

You do, however, have this one chance to prove it for yourself.

“One Life. One Chance.”

The choice is yours.

I don't know what they mean by "being different" here, but the book seems to be more interesting than it really is. It's almost like the Necronomicon, in a sense.

It started to dawn on me at a very young age that I was different, that my ‘’family’’ did not seem very much so. Turned out there was a distinct difference, just how much I would not know for many years. Oh, the signs were there, They, were there, I simply could not ''see'' at the time.

In addition, some knowledge, some things are just too much to handle, too frightening for a small child who would have frequent dreams of falling, of flying, dreams that seemed so vivid, so real, but were they? Surely, a dream was just as my human parents had attempted to teach me, fake, nothing more than a fantasy. After all, why would they lie to me?

Some experiences can be quite, perplexing for a child who would lie paralyzed in his bed, very much aware, yet frightened at the time of the mighty Presence that blanketed him, that Gazed back.

Surely someone else had experienced similar things, had seen what he had seen.

All I had wanted growing up was to find my way back to My real home, to discover who I truly was, where I came from, well, I did.

I am here.

My true Family embraces Me.

This Temple stands before you to offer Guidance and Perspective to those of the Blood, those born worthy of Godhood.

We hunger for knowledge, We hunger to experience, We drink deeply from the cup of life.

We are unique.

We, are the Vampire.

Join Us in being truly alive, truly Awake, in working towards Immortality and beyond, that is, if you have what it takes.

After all, you are what you are.

What do you think about it?

I believe this thread may belong somewhere else pretty soon... I'm glad I found it.

The Origins of the Vampire

The earliest written records describe the ancient Gods as Vampires.

Osiris and Isis of ancient Egypt. Enki and Inanna of ancient Sumer. Rama and Krishna of ancient India. Chang Ling of China. Quetzalcóatl of Mexico.

The ancient records state that the Gods held humans as servants to bring to Them an Elixir of Life in Their Temples. This Elixir, or Lifeforce, often referred to as “ambrosia”, “soma”, “wine”, or “blood”, is now called prana, ch'i or ki.

The Per-em-hru or The Book of Coming Forth By Day (The Egyptian Book of the Dead) described how the Gods would go forth to seek out Lifeforce from the mortal population.

With the collapse of the early priesthoods, Those Who Came Forth to Feed upon humankind
came to be known as Vampires.

Their nightly incursions into the world of men have been shrouded in the imagery of the mythic vampire, the fairy, and in modern times, the alien abduction.

This is now Their only Temple.

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Source: The Temple of the Vampire.

Dear DeathStalker,

I was very intrigued by your posts about 'The Vampire Bible' and related materials. So I looked the book up in the Online Library. If I may be allowed to say so, I think it could use some editing and polishing. That's not a dig, really, I don't suppose that most of what's worth reading didn't benefit from a few revisions here and there. Personally I believe in the phenomenon of psychic vampirism, so I wouldn't think of arguing there. But some of the teachings that accompany it here confuse me.

I'm sure I can't do the teachings justice, so forgive me for being stubborn enough to give at least one example of what perplexes me. The author repeatedly asserts that the wisdom and experiences taught in the Vampire Bible are invisible and condemns those who use the physical to discount his/her teachings. Yet, in the Vampire Bible, he describes some physical signs that could indicate the rituals are going well(temperature changes, cold breezes, etc.)

I don't have an informed opinion of the book as much as I have an impression. And that is that 'The Vampire Bible' goes a good way towards romanticizing Psychic Vampirism, but it needs a rewrite to get all the teachings in line with each other. The Creed makes a distinction between Fantasy and Magick, I'm not sure if there really is one. My idle daydreams might be the baby steps towards a full blown divine revelation down the line. So I wish the Temple of Vampires well in their endeavours, to bring meaning to the lives of the likeminded. Even a shattered dreamer Dreams, if but darkly.

Just my opinions,
Oliver

Dear DeathStalker,

I was very intrigued by your posts about 'The Vampire Bible' and related materials. So I looked the book up in the Online Library. If I may be allowed to say so, I think it could use some editing and polishing. That's not a dig, really, I don't suppose that most of what's worth reading didn't benefit from a few revisions here and there. Personally I believe in the phenomenon of psychic vampirism, so I wouldn't think of arguing there. But some of the teachings that accompany it here confuse me.

I'm sure I can't do the teachings justice, so forgive me for being stubborn enough to give at least one example of what perplexes me. The author repeatedly asserts that the wisdom and experiences taught in the Vampire Bible are invisible and condemns those who use the physical to discount his/her teachings. Yet, in the Vampire Bible, he describes some physical signs that could indicate the rituals are going well(temperature changes, cold breezes, etc.)

I don't have an informed opinion of the book as much as I have an impression. And that is that 'The Vampire Bible' goes a good way towards romanticizing Psychic Vampirism, but it needs a rewrite to get all the teachings in line with each other. The Creed makes a distinction between Fantasy and Magick, I'm not sure if there really is one. My idle daydreams might be the baby steps towards a full blown divine revelation down the line. So I wish the Temple of Vampires well in their endeavours, to bring meaning to the lives of the likeminded. Even a shattered dreamer Dreams, if but darkly.

Just my opinions,
Oliver

The way the site is stated, it states: " do not share information nor buy from other places books we carry ", so I'd be skeptical about the pdf. Pdfs are also not usually complete books.

I couldn't even find the book anywhere else besides their site.

Anyways I ordered it, if its good I'll post about it and you can decide. I'll attest to it when it comes.

Cheers.

ps. the whole temple is said to take place in the astral realm, I am not sure about how "true" what they say is, maybe some other people can speak about this site.

This post has been edited by DeathStalker: Dec 27 2006, 12:31 AM

I just realized that they abide by the Ancient Dragon God known as "Tiamat", she was slewn by Marduk.

I just cannot get my mind off this, my appologies for so many posts, I keep reading new things about this site, but it does seem like a dumb (smart?) online organization to gain money.

Anyways, I'll still keep this updated when I recieve my hardcover Vampire Bible.

I really want to know what Edunpanna, Satarel, and some of the other vampires of this forum have to say about this... all this is new, yet interesting to me, but who knows? it may be another false site promising things for their own profit.

This post has been edited by DeathStalker: Dec 27 2006, 02:08 AM

I remember reading some opin that the only useful element of the material is the initiation ritual,the rest being so much jetsam & flotsam.
It was enough to dissuade me from pursuing ,yet reading some more remarks from the vampire site here convinces me they're authentic once again !

Greetings 'Night',

I think what you are talking about is actually called The Vampire Codex? http://www.sacred-texts.com/goth/vc/index.htm

I just realized that they abide by the Ancient Dragon God known as "Tiamat", she was slewn by Marduk.

I just cannot get my mind off this, my appologies for so many posts, I keep reading new things about this site, but it does seem like a dumb (smart?) online organization to gain money.

Anyways, I'll still keep this updated when I recieve my hardcover Vampire Bible.

I really want to know what Edunpanna, Satarel, and some of the other vampires of this forum have to say about this... all this is new, yet interesting to me, but who knows? it may be another false site promising things for their own profit.

Well, well... what a funny way of finnishing a chat... I'm Dying to know what happened to You my friend... Please tell me something about this book! At least mention that you got it, if anything. I'm just too curious about Vampires! I feel an Immense attraction towards it... But I cannot help but feel that it sounds like a big bundle of **** to me. Sorry if anyone got offended. I am just so in need of knowing. I probably will buy that book anyway. But please share something.

I also found a lot of info about vampirism here: http://www.sanguinarius.org/ I think the site is worth checking out and I believe it mentions also somewhere about the vampire codex book and other vampire organizations as well.

Happy hunting!