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post Dec 18 2006, 02:07 AM
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I was just curious to know if anyone had any insight on the appearance of wings on humans. I'm not exactly planning to whip me up some big angel wings and go zipping about, but I thought this was certainly worth discussing. From what I hear, any sort of "controlled mutation" can be very dangerous and troublesome. But other than that the only way I can think of would be to make a deal with an angel or demon. Has anyone here tried this? or atleast thought about it?

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post Dec 18 2006, 10:13 AM
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I acquired astral wings when I was a bit younger. I've been on the move ever since, from place to place.

As far as wings, wings? As in, feathers and bones coming from your spinal column? I think this was actually a question posed before on this forum, amazingly enough, a while back.

I believe we concluded that no one in -recorded- history has possessed verified wings. Who knows though, right?

besides, wings on people wouldn't be very useful, humans are not very aerodynamic.

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ps. Also, according to my contacts, granting you literal wings is beyond the scope of an angel or demon's contextual power. They are concerned with the subtle systems of existence, not drastic biological changes. A geneticist, now, he might give it a try.


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post Jan 23 2007, 12:16 AM
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Hey!

Just a few points that came off the top of my head.

The wings would have to be huge to achieve lift, you would probably never go inside a house or car again. Then you would have to account for placement, one place would be between your shoulder blades. If that was the case you would have to reconnect your pectorals to your new wings, which would limit the mobility of your arms, severely(why we didn't evolve wings in the first place). Or grow new flight muscles,which could be placed over your traps and wrap around over your lats to connect under your pecs (it would roughly follow the pre-existing template of how the pecs connect to your upper arm)... I believe that genetic tampering on this scale is currently considered unethical, so you would be hard pressed to find someone to do this procedure.

If we lightened the wing design (bone structure) the strength would be compromised, and the wings would easily break. Take the femur for example the epiphysis is porous, Spongy bone that contain red marrow(produces red blood cells). The Diaphysis is compact bone, it's hollow, and full of yellow marrow, it's build to support your weight. I can't decide where to take weight from, but since blood cell production is essential, I would assume we would turn the compact bone in to spongy porous bone, no more breaking cinder blocks, so more slam dunks, one short fall and you'd shatter your hips, ribs, and collarbone, where before you would just sprain a wrist. There is a reason birds have brittle bones.

I wouldn't mind having wings, I just don't think it's probable at this time, granted what we're doing with mice and jelly fish(did you know they have a million dollar mouse, and mice that glow in different colors at UNMC) it's possible, right now [/u]really really unethical.



Plan B: summon an angel and ask him (please be kind and summon a male) to "take off his shirt"... from there you could examine him and take notes on a design for yourself.


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post Jan 23 2007, 03:25 PM
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Interesting you mention this. Recently while in meditation and also in contact with my gaurdian at the same time. I was feeling odd along my spine. Like when i work with kundalini. But differant. all of a sudden my astral form sprouted two pair of wings both huge and feathered. One pair black the other white. For some reason the white pair wanted to curl around in front of me at about the point where my aura starts to fade. as if they were intertwined with it. It was so detailed the energy from my aura seemed to fluxuate as a few small feathers floated into it.
Later i was shown the image of my face as an eagles.
The strangest part was the actual physical feeling i had as they moved about. I could feel it in my back. Maybe i was meant to project out as an eagle. But i was entranced by the wings and that was good enough.


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There are different types of wings that can manifest, in a sense. There are the basic bisymmetrical pair, a quad, a '6pack' as i call it, and sometimes 8 or 10. Usually the 8 or 10 denote a different type of spirit altogether.

Bisymmerty is typical amongst humans. Some have more. in the 4-coupling class, they come in a quadrant arraingement, or a layered arraingement (a 'la X-men). In the 6-pack/seraphim class, they can come in overlapping layers like a wing carapace, or in the hexagonal pattern typical of that class. From there, varieties come in shape. Some resemble that of a dove, and eagle...others, like mine so I have observed, resemble more of that of an albatross. The middle right one had a bend at the end, like a broken bone, and after some meditation and discussion, found it to be my astral "pimp hand." (IMG:style_emoticons/default/whip.gif)

I have not witnessed an 8 or 10 form.

And THIS is just angelic-archetype wings. Others may resemble that of a bat, demon, gargoyle, dragon, phoenix, fish scales/fins, metallic partitions and sections....the possibilities are endless.

At least, this is what I have found.

No there are no physical manifests as of yet, so this is purely astral. although, at one point in time, my back muscles did bunch up alot at those points. For about a month those knots stayed in my back.


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post Jan 23 2007, 09:16 PM
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QUOTE(Enochian @ Jan 23 2007, 03:25 PM) *
Interesting you mention this. Recently while in meditation and also in contact with my gaurdian at the same time. I was feeling odd along my spine. Like when i work with kundalini. But differant. all of a sudden my astral form sprouted two pair of wings both huge and feathered. One pair black the other white. For some reason the white pair wanted to curl around in front of me at about the point where my aura starts to fade. as if they were intertwined with it. It was so detailed the energy from my aura seemed to fluxuate as a few small feathers floated into it.
Later i was shown the image of my face as an eagles.
The strangest part was the actual physical feeling i had as they moved about. I could feel it in my back. Maybe i was meant to project out as an eagle. But i was entranced by the wings and that was good enough.

The eagle could be your animal spirit guide...


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post Jan 24 2007, 03:50 PM
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I've had a couple of instances where I was doing a shared astral journey with a partner and they claimed afterwards that I had the wings of an angel (bright white, yellow and feathery). I don't visualize wings about myself so I figured maybe what they saw was and interpretation of my aura. Which in the astral, etheric sense, one should consider what they think constitutes wings. Wings in the litteral sense or wings as a metaphor? At any rate wings on the astral plains might tell others you are something that you really are not. So in that sense they might be dangerous. However, as in my case, if other entities see you as having wings through no fault of your own, I don't see why that would be a problem, thats just the way you are.


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post Jan 24 2007, 10:20 PM
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I could handle haveing the eagle as my spirit guide. While studying Shamanism i worked at finding what animal it was for a while with no luck. Of course that was after reading about Castaneda turning into a crow.
My guide mentioned that after a while my eagle may be a ox or a lion. Any ideas on that? I do know that the ox is my Chinese symbol in astrology. Does that have something to do with it?

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