Someone Leaching Off Me?, I should have seen this comming.... Options

Well, I lot has been happening, and I really wish I kept a diary! what can I say, I'm lazy (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sculacciata.gif)

Lets start from the beginning. I'm still in the middle of Hemi-Sync. for those of you who dont know of it, google it.

Well, during one of the tapes (wave 2 or 3, I cant rmember), I did my usual : Put all my worries in a box, "resonant tunning", an energy sheild, an affirmation, then following on to "focus 10".

After all this, the tape then asked to do a different, additional affirmation, when I started doing this, I felt a huge energy surge starting at the base of my spine, and flowwing into all of my body. It was moving to say the least. EXTREMELY moving!!! Up until this point, my dreams where getting crystal clear. For the next three nights, I had nightmares. In one of them, a woman held me captive in a house, by using a phone that, when dialed, affected my heart, and felt like a full-on heart attack. This all happened about 2 months ago.

Just recently I had a breif incounter with a goetic deamon (my doing, tho). Since talking to my mother (a healer) she talked to a few of her friends to put out feelers, and they have said something has snagged me. My third eye is apparently damaged, and I will be requiring at the very least, a lot of banishing.

So..... can anyone recommend a good banish to start with? LBRP? middle pillar?

just to make things a little clearer, I am having a hard time sitting still through my tapes too. I dont know if its a parasite, or someone a little bigger. Anything would be a good start

When you mention a big banishing method, the crown of Anu comes to my mind but i dont know if it is used for other system except than that of the Necronomicon.

May be some sort of exorcisms too could help like dissociate any shit stuck to your spirit. Try some salt water rinsing of the body too.. could help...



Well if you think its the demon that acting nasty try the middle pillar, LBRP followed by the LBRH followed by the solar cross from Ashnook's site at http://necronomicon.sacred-magick.com/Banishing.html .



I dont know too much on banishings but i guess the above could help as its a powerful combo takin care of a large spectrum of nasty entities...



For me, i use the Nec, how i would proceed would be salt water sprinkling around a ritual place, do the solar wave banishing and solar cross, do the Ishtar purification incantation. then burn the aga mass and the recite some incantations related to exorcism in case of demon possession. It could help also from any demon trying to wreck your body. I guess this would suffice.. And if i would want I could use the spellbook to charge a seal of some of the names that protect from evil spirits etc...

It sounds like you are suffering from an overabundance of energy. Have you tried grounding to release excess energy? If you do a lot of energy work and don't ground off the excess, it can have some serious effects, mentally emotionally and physically. Keeping a lot of excess energy can cause nervousness, paranoia, stress, nightmares, hyperactivity, inability to think or communicate clearly, and even pain and discomfort if the excess energy builds up in areas where you have energy blocks.
It can advance physical illness by adding energy to it, which makes physical problems worsen quickly.
There are many places you can find simple grounding exercises, most of them are fairly effective and just take a few minutes with some breath work and visualization.

/edit/ If you are following an energy-working program and they have not discussed grounding at all before they start you with raising and working with large ammounts of energy, then the program has some serious flaws. Also when people begin to increase their energy and tap into their own power, it's like burning a spotlight on the astral plane and everything around will be attracted to you, in this case you might want to look at shielding techniques. /edit/

This post has been edited by Arkayne Magii: Jan 7 2007, 01:14 PM

ok so heres the basics: i dont evoke, invoke...normally the only thing i do is worship or meditate. Its 12 atnight and i feel extremely used. I was sitting with my hands out in front of me and relaxing my body when all of a sudden i felt a presence and as if someone was holding my hand. For a couple minutes i just sat there reveling in the new sensation. But then i tried to release my left hand and i couldnt pull away. A tremendous pressure suddenly forced my hand open and i felt like either something was being pushed into my arm, or something being pulled out of it. Anyhow, i couldnt pull away immediately and the longer it took to pull away the strongerthe pressure became.
it felt similar to the feeling i get RIGHT before i project (not during), only much much stronger. I moved my whole body and "disconnected" from whatever it was as best as possible. It actually hurt to disconnect. Now im really light headed, my head feels like cotton, and my left hand is tingling. what the hell happened? ive had something similar happen to me before, but this time it was very forceful and BOTH times i wasnt expecting it. help. is it an overabundance of energy? is someone leaching off me? i feel drained and enervated at the same time. whats really weird is one of my friends had a similar incident happen to her earlier today. We share a connection, and sometimes know whats happening to each other, or get similar illnesses or injuries. She felt her hand grabbed by a disembodied spirit (perhaps a premonition, or an actual spirit). Could it be messing with our connection? please, any advice would be great.

---one confused valkyrie

Greetings,

Curious and curiouser.

I didn't feel the nature of the energy myself, so I can't speculate as to whether it was positive or negative.
However, it doesn't sound like someone/thing try to leech from you. I think the only way that would be the case is if it was very inexperienced human attempting it from a distance. My reason for saying so is that someone or something strong enough to feed in a way that you would feel it as you did, would also have the ability to be very very subtle in the act.
So personally it sounds to me like one of two things.
Either an entity (positive or negative) was trying to get your attention in a big way, or you were subconsciously trying to evocate whatever being you were communing with.
I evocate and invocate on a regular basis and the sensations you've described sound very similar to what i feel quite often in the practice. Especially if I'm planning on astrally projecting to the entities realm. It's like a strong hand grasps your energy body and tries to pull you out of your skin.
Normally I don't experience pain when this happens, as it my intention for it to occur and I go along with it. But I imagine fighting it would indeed cause some discomfort and disorientation.
I think your best bet in this situation would be to perform some strong banishings (for both yourself and your friend) and then wait to see if it happens again. If it does, seek the help of someone versed in evocation and invocation in person, as they should be able to assist.
Good Luck,
Nosotro

thank gods, nosotro! i was beginning to worry i wouldnt get any answers. now that you mention the hand...yes, ive been grabbed out of my body before...but everytime it happened ive successfully resisted and "the force" has tried multiple techniques... so i dont think it is ME doing it...but some external force capable of reasoning? (im not sure it was the same thing either...what you describe sounds like the giant hand that picked me up and tried to transport me somewhere while i was in astral form...this most previous one, tried to induce something in me while i was fully awake; it was very personal and violating. I had not been meditating more than 5 minutes. when i broke away i left the being a sober "shame on you" feeling. a bit of a slap on the wrist. I guess i just need to be rougher if im going to protect myself and a guilt trip wont stop whatever it was from doing it again. As for the banishing, you dont have to say it twice. Ill get on that! however...the subconscious rebelling seems to be the theme of the year for me. Evidently my subconscious has been doing things without my permission OR my knowledge..i dont know how to fix it, but its very alarming not to have control. Evoking huh? It could be possible. I will check it out thankyou very much.

Greetings,

Attempting to use emotion against an outside entity is a good way to start. If they had no harmful intentions in mind, then it is a good gentle way of saying 'no'. I think you did the right thing there.
But since this 'force' has continued in it's attempts, a stronger reaction is needed.
Next time this happens, don't 'resist' the pull in that sense. PULL BACK. It grabs you, you latch onto it and treat it like a cowboy on an angry bull. Shake the s*^& out of it. lol

Another thing you may attempt is forceful control. Once you grab onto that entity, use words and thoughts and emotion to say 'YOU ARE MINE!"
Take control of it whether it likes or not. This may give you an opportunity to discover it's methods, reasoning or purpose.
Also, I've been thinking on your statement about the close connection to your friend. Now, this is a stretch, and pure speculation. But, maybe she is subconsciously asking for your help in something. A problem he/she is reluctant to speak of in words. I've got some close friends and at times have felt odd sensations and emotion not attached to myself. Turns out it was from them. Just a thought though.
Keep us all updated on what happens. Good Luck.
Nosotro

A person or entity invading your freewill in such a way, leeching off you, does not deserve any patience or any temperance from you at all. Give them a inch and you give them a mile. If it is 'psi-vampire' leeching off you that makes them a parasite, and nothing more.

Confine the presence to a triangle where you have complete control over it, and question it until you obtain it's true name - and do whatever you will with it!

Zugzwang- yes, i suppose confining to a triangle would be a good alternative to a banishing...is that a type of binding? I really have no experience in this sort of thing but I know i am naturally good at binding. by the way...Will banishing drive away all spirits in the area? Ive tried a minor banishment before, and i succeeded...but a friend (i question his expertise sometimes) told me i drew from the wrong energy facet and exhausted the borders i set as well as the source that i drew from; it caused more problems than helped. The energy facet, i am told, was from a friend entity that resided near the room i did it in, evidently some self-appointed guardian i didnt know about. Then, i was completely ignorant of what i was doing. Now, I am fearful to do it again...ESPECIALLY if the banishing encompasses a living person, and not a geographical point (that is, within the borders of a room). What havoc could i wreak that way? I am not much more informed than i was before. I dont want to make things worse! Thats the main thing im worried about. As for leaching...it was a suspicion...but im not sure if it actually WAS a parasite. Is calling it up and questioning it the only way i can tell...im not that advanced yet, and i dont want to get in over my head. what is a leaching supposed to feel like? Are there multiple ways that leaches manipulate victims? What are the symptoms that follow or occur during a leaching? I dont want to misdiagnose the problem!

This post has been edited by valkyrie: May 17 2007, 03:15 PM

Zugzwang- yes, i suppose confining to a triangle would be a good alternative to a banishing...is that a type of binding? I really have no experience in this sort of thing but I know i am naturally good at binding.

If you're being attacked then usually it's better to bind than banish - the reason for this is if someone has sent out a entity to cause you harm, if you bind that entity then you reduce the casters capability to do the same again with the same potency, they will be like butter spread too thinly on toast! Information on the binding of spirits while inside a triangle can be found in the goetia. A way to avoid most minor astral parasites besides from banishing, is to use aura building exercises like the M.P.

by the way...Will banishing drive away all spirits in the area? Ive tried a minor banishment before, and i succeeded...but a friend (i question his expertise sometimes) told me i drew from the wrong energy facet and exhausted the borders i set as well as the source that i drew from; it caused more problems than helped. The energy facet, i am told, was from a friend entity that resided near the room i did it in, evidently some self-appointed guardian i didnt know about. Then, i was completely ignorant of what i was doing. Now, I am fearful to do it again...ESPECIALLY if the banishing encompasses a living person, and not a geographical point (that is, within the borders of a room).

If you want to localise a banishing to a specific area then you first draw a circle about you (the circle should be drawn the size of the room you're in, in this case) either with incense, a dagger, you finger, paint/chalk, or by using visualisation (a brilliant sphere of light encompassing your body is another form of a circle). The atmosphere is laden with spirits and it's great that one appointed itself to look over you, but it should be YOU who appoints THEM - this way you avoid any interference; as they can never conflict with your true will if you are the one who designated that they should be there to act as guardians.

What havoc could i wreak that way? I am not much more informed than i was before. I dont want to make things worse! Thats the main thing im worried about. As for leaching...it was a suspicion...but im not sure if it actually WAS a parasite. Is calling it up and questioning it the only way i can tell...im not that advanced yet, and i dont want to get in over my head. what is a leaching supposed to feel like? Are there multiple ways that leaches manipulate victims? What are the symptoms that follow or occur during a leaching? I dont want to misdiagnose the problem!

You don't have to question it if you don't want to. When somebody or something tries to leech off of you it feels, to me, like someone is placing a shoehorn between the layers of your aura - you will feel fatigued in all respects if it gets particularly bad. Leeches manipulate their victims in the sense that they will continue to make you feel bad so you don't take any action against them. I know some parts of my post sound preachy, but it's just my advice.