Question About Furfur, little advice please Options

hey what's up everyone

I have a question ok i was thinking can i do this with the Goetic spirits. i was thinking about summoning the spirit FurFur but their is a problem with that.
I live in a Christan family and they would freak. Plus my parents like to Neb and they look for stuff pretty much its like nothing is a secret in my house. So i cant do a summoning
but can i just draw his symbol on a sheet of paper. Then meditate on what i want him like charge his symbol to do my will and maybe chant his name it and get after its done get rid of the sigil like burn it or something. Or carry it with me like but put it in my bookbag or draw the sigil on my hand or something. But i read places
that FurFur is a liar unless compelled to enter a magick triangle then he will do what you tell him i guess but is that true. The reason i want to summon him is so he could
help help a girl fall in love with me like a little extra push because i'm doing so well on my own. I don't even think she likes me i had a bad impression . I thought he could help because it says Furfur causes love between a man and a woman so yeah though it was worth a shot. any advice is appreicated thanks

PS my grammer is bad i know not a good writer at all try to bare with me

This post has been edited by 185: Jan 20 2007, 05:50 PM

Using the goetia takes takes years of practice, it can be dangerous unless you know what to do as a magician. If the situation goes wrong. example all the banishing rituals etc.
I dont think its worth it unless you go all the way into atleast an astral evocation using a triangle and mirror is the very basic.
Ive had evocations were I would have no contact but asked what I wanted none the less and had it come true.
You should try it and see for your self. If you have nightmares and start hearing and seeing things during day to day life its your fault. you could get a little triangle and hide it in the corner somewere out of sight. add a couple of candles and do the LBRP and vibrate the names mentally whille wispering them. I guess incence is out of the question. and incence is really necessary too.
or go out to a park or somewere out in the middle of nowere. were no one can see you and go for your life.

I agree with scryer.

Goetics are not that easy to constrain sometimes, and not going for the circle and triangle (if you are a beginner or have never worked with a particular spirit) even though it is specified in the book is just asking for trouble. I used to believe that I could level with them, get on their good side. That got me some trippy dreams and deja vu experiences, but nothing useful, and almost never what I asked for.

So, I now go for a tougher aproach and I have been doing ok with that. I haven't really gone through with a full goetic working yet since my last attempt (read the astaroth thread) but I know that I am better prepared for it now. I'm currently dealing with a goetic, and I've made it very clear to it that I won't stand for any crap, so if it doesn't obey me, it's into the abyss for it. I'm currently preparing my "heavy box" to torture it's seal in the coals if I need to.

So, 185, I recommend that you find a way to follow the books instructions. I recommend that if you want something bad enough, either follow the books instructions or make yourself a servitor. Servitors are much more reliable to get something quickly and with much less pain than to go through the goetics. Believe me, working with demons is more about testing your limits and faith(at first) than to get actual results. When you start to get results, you know you are on the way to becoming a kickass magician. If you fail, you just pick yourself up and try again.

Go for a servitor or an angel if you need fast reliable results. If you're willing to invest alot of time into building a working relationship with furfur, then go for it, but you have to find a place and a time to do it. Don't go for the simpler methods, since they don't work for beginners, and they work too well for someone that is more advanced, but then it's just more dangerous. I hope that makes sense.